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#2301 Re: Documentation » Install eudev in ascii » 2017-08-29 01:50:39

You won't find any eudev files. It has to lie to everyone and pretend to be udev, so a lot of the udev files you find are really the eudev files in disguise. And all that /lib/systemd stuff is for udev/eudev.

#2302 Re: Other Issues » Samba/filesharing problems » 2017-08-29 01:46:20

If you just want to access the server from the local network, nfs will work. You can either add the nfs shares to the fstabs of the clients, or you could install autofs and set it up so the shares get mounted automatically when someone tries to access those files. There's also sshfs, which is more secure, but won't work right for audio/video (it plays on the server instead of the client.)

Look for a howto on setting up nfs on debian. Same for autofs if you want that.

#2303 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wicd/system-wide permissions? » 2017-08-29 01:31:51

You can highlight the text you want in a code box and then click on the code link above the message box.

Yours:

2386824    ./log

Mine:

3984	/var/log

How big are your log files? Mine are all measured in kb. If yours are in the mb range, then maybe logrotate isn't working right. It's safe to remove all the archived logs (the ones that end with .gz). You can also get rid of any packages saved from upgrades (in /var/cache/apt/archives) by running

apt-get autoclean

(gets rid of the ones that are obsolete) or

apt-get clean

(gets rid of all of them).

#2304 Re: Other Issues » policykit-1, polkit, polkitd authentication problems » 2017-08-28 00:01:09

I just did an upgrade to ascii, and I was having the opposite problem. Synaptic and gparted would start without asking for a password. Only worked with the primary user. I noticed that policykit-1-gnome had been removed, so I reinstalled it, and now synaptic and gparted won't start for the user. User can still use pkexec to create another user but has to use the full path for the adduser command.

#2305 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] pkexec authenticates without password » 2017-08-27 23:52:32

In the upgraded Refracta:
Tried replacing mate-polkit with lxpolkit. Didn't help. Tried adding policykit-1-gnome (with each of the other polkits) didn't help.

In the upgraded Devuan:
Tried adding policykit-1-gnome first, and now gparted and synaptic don't start. Tried from the menu and from the terminal with pkexec.

However, I can do 'pkexec /usr/sbin/adduser buford' and it works. Had to use the full path with adduser.

#2306 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » flash player plugin not run in Devuan » 2017-08-27 22:19:31

I ran into this a few days ago and ended up downloading it from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ for a friend. We can't get it to work. I already have flashplugin-nonfree installed from long ago, and when I go to about:plugins, I don't see it listed. And neither of us could see some items on one site that requires flash. Debian wiki looked helpful, but as I said, the plugin didn't seem to work and doesn't show up in the list of plugins. I don't know what's going on with it.

#2307 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] pkexec authenticates without password » 2017-08-27 16:11:30

Using xfce here. This was an install from the desktop-live iso. It's actually a mixed ascii/ceres now. I tested it first in pure ascii, then added ceres and did a dist-upgrade without removing the ascii sources. I had no problems during the upgrade. And pkexec acts the same in both.

I did notice in another installation that lxqt did it right. I guess the lx teams know what they're doing.

#2308 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] pkexec authenticates without password » 2017-08-27 15:15:05

Same behavior in a devuan jessie that got upgraded to ascii, and then again when upgraded to ceres.

pkexec allows primary user to install and remove software (didn't test gparted this time)
It does not allow primary user to create a new user, and it does not let the second user install software.

I will get around to filing a bug report.

#2309 Re: DIY » dual-kernel Devuan » 2017-08-27 01:32:31

It's likely that eudev will be configured,,,

Future tense. It actually might already be in the latest build of eudev, but I'm not sure if that's in the repo yet. Need to check parazyd's test repo.

The live-boot stanza is correct.

#2310 Re: DIY » dual-kernel Devuan » 2017-08-26 12:51:48

Easy fix for the change in network names - revert to the old names by adding "net.ifnames=0" to the boot command.

You can add it to /etc/default/grub, next to "quiet" (will only affect the default boot choice) or in the line below (will affect all boot entries.)

Before making a snapshot, add it to /usr/lib/refractasnapshot/iso/isolinux/live.cfg (ang grub.cfg.template if you're enabling uefi boot.)

Note: this will be a config option in a future version of snapshot.

Note2: It's likely that eudev will be configured to reverse this behavior (i.e. you'll need net.ifnames=1 if you want the new names.)

#2311 Re: DIY » dual-kernel Devuan » 2017-08-26 10:34:34

As I mentioned in another thread, you need to tell apt to install linux-base from backports when you install the bpo kernel.

apt-cache policy linux-base
linux-base:
  Installed: 3.5
  Candidate: 3.5
  Version table:
     4.5 0
        100 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
     4.3~bpo8+1 0
        200 http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
 *** 3.5 0
        500 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

On to the main topic. (I haven't done this in a long time, so you're getting the quick version.)

Install both kernels in the host system.
Make a snapshot (with save_work="yes")
Whichever kernel is symlinked with /vmlinuz will be in the copy. (same with initrd)  That will likely be the backports kernel.
Copy the other kernel and initrd into place. Something like

cp /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-blah /home/work/iso/live/vmlinuz1
cp /boot/initrd.img-3.16-blah /home/work/iso/live/initrd1

Edit your boot menus to add stanzas for vmlinuz1 and initrd1.
Re-run refractasnapshot and choose the 4th option (re-run xorriso, no-copy, no-squash)

Potential problem (that you already thought of): 4.9 kernel needs newer live-boot and live-config than the one used by 3.16. The older version of live-* uses aufs and the newer uses overlay. The reason the newer kernel needs the newer live-* is because aufs is not in the kernel.

I don't know if 3.16 will work with newer live-* packages. If it does, you'll only have to do this once. (in theory)
Other option would be to recompile the 4.9 kernel and add aufs support. Then you could use the older live-* packages.

Oh...  just thought of another way to do it.

Make an iso with 3.16, put it on a usb (using refracta2usb) and create two persistent loopback files (with full persistence). Make them big so you can install packages.

Keep one persistent volume for running 3.16.
Boot the other persistent volume and add the backports kernel and live-* packages.
Go back to the host system, mount the usb, mount the loopback file with the bpo kernel and copy that vmlinuz and initrd into the /live dir as described above.
Then dd the usb stick into a file (named something.img). File size might be an issue in regards to upload and download.

#2312 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] Update concerning the 2017 Release of Miyo-XTRA » 2017-08-25 23:35:58

greenjeans wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

Kernel 4.9 is available via the Backports repository.

Negative unfortunately, I can't get it to install anymore, it's asking for a newer version of linux-base which is not available in backports or jessie main.

It's there in backports. You have to tell it to install linux-base when you tell it to install the kernel. Use
'apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-base linux-image-4.9-whatever'

#2314 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-08-24 16:26:27

greenjeans wrote:

Refracta2usb is now included on all Vuu-do isos, if anyone can figure out how to work it please let me know. ;-)

I can! I can!

1. Make sure automount is NOT enabled for usb.
2. Plug in your thumb drive.
3. Run 'refracta2usb' from a root terminal (or sudo).
4. Click on the Help option. Read the first few paragraphs.

Keep in mind that it's like a Swiss army knife - it has a bunch of utensils in case you ever need them, but you'll probably never use all of them. Just pick the one(s) you need at any given time.

Hint: create a vfat that's big enough to fit a few isos and an ext partition for other uses, but don't use it yet. Get one iso running then talk to me about persistence (or read the rest of the Help).

If you get a popup error window and you see the word "rescan" in it, go back to the main menu and Rescan. (It happens a lot if you do multiple procedures in the same run. It's not a bug. That's just the way it is - stick gets unmounted after you do a task.)

#2315 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Ethernet and WiFi cards not recognized » 2017-08-24 11:37:45

@greenjeans - newer live-boot and live-config (not live-build) are needed with 4.9 kernel due to changes from aufs to overlay. Start a separate thread about multiple kernels. I've done it in the past. Not sure if it's possible in this case.

#2316 Re: Other Issues » refracta-tools in experimental :: minor error » 2017-08-24 11:32:55

Warning: The home dir /run/uuidd you specified can't be accessed: No such file or directory

Were you installing software in a chroot? That would account for /run being absent.

The error about missing /home/devuan is weird. I don't know what to say about that.

save_work=yes

Keep it that way unless you need to reclaim the space. (You already said you don't need to.) It will save time because rsync only copies changes after the first time.

Network problem: easily solved by adding 'net.ifnames=0' to the boot command. Since you saved your work, you can very easily add this in without running the whole process again. To test it, press TAB at boot menu and edit the line.
- Edit /home/work/iso/isolinux/live.cfg  (the boot menu)
- Run refractasnapshot again and choose the 4th option (Re-run xorriso, (make iso, no-copy, no squash). It'll take a minute or so.
   (Note: this will only work for changes in the root of the CD. It won't work for changes in the copied filesystem.)

Next time you do a full run, start it from terminal in debug mode -

refractasnapshot -d
or
refractasnapshot-gui -d

#2317 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Ethernet and WiFi cards not recognized » 2017-08-23 16:35:45

OK, here's one more thing you can try.

Boot the ascii iso (the one with openrc and eudev)
At the boot menu press TAB and add the word

nox11autologin

to the boot command. Then ENTER.
If you boot to a command line, run

sudo dpkg -i /firmware-iwlwifi*.deb
iwlist wlan0 scan   # to see if you detect any wireless networks
wicd-curses  # to set up a wireless connection

If you can get online, then part of the problem is solved, and we just need to figure out how to get X working.

#2318 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Ethernet and WiFi cards not recognized » 2017-08-23 13:45:18

That's weird. Your wireless is new enough that it requires kernel version 4.1 or newer but the computer only boots with 3.16. (see https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en … 05511.html )
I still think playing with the boot options or going into the bios to turn stuff off is where the solution lies.

BTW, some isos made with refractasnapshot have a failsafe boot option and some have a no-probe and a no-modeset option. The failsafe is the same as the no-probe with nomodeset added to it. I did that to eliminate a boot entry without eliminating the option in that entry. Feel free to experiment with the list of  "no*" options in those boot entries. You might only need one or two of them. At the boot menu, TAB gets you to the boot command where you can edit it.

#2319 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Where are the refracta scripts? » 2017-08-23 13:34:47

Yad is in ascii, and you can install it from the repo, but that one uses gtk3. If that works for you, fine. But if you find that buttons you want to click are off-screen, use the package I made for gtk2. Even though it's for jessie, it works on ascii.

For the desktop-live isos, I just installed yad and refracta tools from deb packages.

#2320 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Where are the refracta scripts? » 2017-08-22 22:57:42

Gary:
Install all four packages (or just the -base packages). If you install the -gui packages, you also need yad, which is not in jessie repos.
You can get that at http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … _packages/ (either version will work in jessie. The later version will work in ascii.)

apt-cache search refracta
refractainstaller-base - tool to install a running live-CD to hard drive.
refractainstaller-gui - tool to install a running live-CD to hard drive.
refractasnapshot-base - tool to create a live-CD from the running system
refractasnapshot-gui - tool to create a live-CD from the running system

Gus:
If you comment out all but experimental, you won't get any dependencies.

#2321 Re: Other Issues » Prevent kernel from displaying messages until modesetting is ready. » 2017-08-22 12:03:03

I had this problem with one laptop and found that setting the grub resolution to the correct size for my diplay fixed it. I added the following line to /etc/default/grub:

GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=1366x768

#2322 Re: Installation » Manual partitioning: boot partition, dual boot » 2017-08-22 10:53:41

If your root partition is encrypted, you need a separate /boot partition. It has nothing to do with the number or type of operating systems on the computer. It does not have to be the first partition, but I think that's where it usually goes. And since you're using gpt, there's no need for logical partitions unless you're using lvm. You can have more than four primary partitions.

You didn't ask about this, but I'll mention that the /boot partition does not need to be flagged as bootable.

I will also mention that if you were using uefi instead of legacy bios, you would need an efi partition, which would be flagged as bootable and would not be the same thing as a separate /boot partition. You can have both of those. The efi partition (fat32 with flags 'boot,esp') would be required, and the /boot partition is optional.

#2323 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Ethernet and WiFi cards not recognized » 2017-08-21 13:02:22

I compared the kernel configs between bunsenlabs live iso and devuan. They are identical (jessie 3.16). Maybe you could turn off acpi to boot a live iso and install it, then not have to turn it off in the installation. Just a guess. If you used the backports or ascii iso, you might get a network connection.

When the ascii installer isos get made, they will be at files.devuan.org probably in a directory called ascii or ascii-something. I'm hoping it will be no more than a month before there's an alpha release.

#2324 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Ethernet and WiFi cards not recognized » 2017-08-21 09:57:08

It might be worth comparing the kernel configs between devuan and either bunsen or system rescue. Maybe those kernels have something compiled in that devuan doesn't have. Look at /boot/config-<version>. It might be possible to install devuan and then use another kernel that works properly with your system. (maybe a liquorix kernel) In that case, you could install ascii from the live iso (with acpi=off) and then replace the kernel.

You can install jessie on it from an installer CD and it boots ok after that? If you do a small install (no desktop, just standard system utilities) then upgrading to ascii should be pretty easy. But you need to have a network connection. You might just need the backports kernel and firmware-iwlwifi. That could be done by downloading packages and installing off-line.

There are some installation guides here - https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/

There will be live isos and regular installer isos for ascii. Sometime soon, I hope.

Edit: some interesting results on search for 'kernel watchdog bug soft lockup xorg'

#2325 Re: Other Issues » ascii/lxqt wifi address change » 2017-08-21 02:11:33

Yeah, that's weird. I have one ascii install that I've been running without adding net.ifnames=0 to the boot command except for one morning when I did need it for a few reboots. It was when I was playing with policykit/pkexec/synaptic. Doesn't make sense.

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