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#201 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Help with script » 2021-04-14 15:25:54

I believe that script would need to be run as the root user ?

#202 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 15:24:34

msi wrote:

I went on a retreat to the Linux minimalism monastery, thinking I would be sleeping in a simple but comfortable bedroom, only to discover a spartan cell, offering nothing but a bed of nails.

(Inspired by https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spartan.)

I mean, if you like pain, suit yourself. A reasonable notion of minimalism looks quite different than just about everything that has been posted in this thread, though, if you ask me.

For example, I'd like to have a well-thought-out GUI with an Apply button for configuring urxvt, especially the appearance part, because that would spare me the mental overhead and frustration involved in editing ~/.Xresources and then reloading the settings manually. In fact, I'd very much prefer such a GUI for configuring all of my desktop environment to having to deal with configuration files in three different standard locations using five different formats.

You want a button for something that is set and forget, BLOAT.

#203 Re: Installation » Just upgraded system on main machine to debbowulf » 2021-04-13 13:47:01

MLEvD wrote:

It's scary having messages about hashsummismatches, almost enough to make one doubt the security of repositories of smaller distro!

You said size mismatches in op not hash sum mismatches. Maybe your repos are fucked up.

#204 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 13:44:25

Ogis1975 wrote:
dice wrote:

what does your .ashrc look like?

Here:
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/dash/-/ … ash.config

But you probably know that ash is superseded by Dash in Debian since DebianSarge....for interactive shell i use tcsh...

I learnt a few pointers from kisslinux (now defunct i think) about how to go about using ash as main shell. I tried it awhile ago and it works ok.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kisslinux/comm … ain_shell/

#205 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 13:19:34

Ogis1975 wrote:

Do not use  bloated music players. Just use sox.

Do not use bash. It is bloated. Just use ash. Or in the worst case use tcsh.

what does your .ashrc look like?

#206 Re: Installation » Just upgraded system on main machine to debbowulf » 2021-04-13 12:49:48

Probably a mirror/server issue during download. Ive got them a few times, usually corrected with another apt update.

#208 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 12:00:42

MiyoLinux wrote:

Beards are bloat !!!

grep "Beard" | cut -b 1000000

wink

#209 Re: Devuan » Hello All, question about downloading the source » 2021-04-10 13:21:03

russlandry21@gmail.com wrote:
dice wrote:

You might be better off with a server cd set, im not sure about anything that is available as a cd set for testing/chimaera only stable beowulf. Im also not sure about how you would go downloading the source either, you need to understand the underpinnings of what devuan is, that being a fork of debian.

See this link for the server cd instructions. https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

server (~670 MB): CD1 of a 4 CD set that allows for a complete off-line server/minimal installation. The remaining CDs offer several desktop choices and a limited selection of additional software.

    CD2: Xfce (installable from tasksel) and LXDE.
    CD3: MATE (installable from tasksel) and Openbox window manager.
    CD4: Cinnamon (installable from tasksel) but requires CD2 and CD3 to install.

Yeah, it does, but I still need Bind9, Ngnix, Php, and some server admin tools, as well as all the email server stuff postfix etc. I'd like to build a complete catalog of all the source files I need for the entire build and then who knows, maybe can submit it as a ready made package.

Have you tried the server cd ? I would like to think the cd had those programs you need installed as it is quite larger than the normal netinstall iso.

This is the one im talking about at 590 MB

devuan_beowulf_3.1.1_amd64_server.iso    590.0 MiB    2021-Mar-17 23:26

Random mirror...

https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devu … aller-iso/

#210 Re: Installation » Partitioning schemes separate var and usr and boot 4 unfussy root? » 2021-04-10 11:54:32

For devuan, just boot and root partitions. I have no issues with boot time, around 10 seconds to boot from startup with encrypted root.

The Openbsd machine is a bit different, it uses disklabel partitions, https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html

#211 Re: Devuan » Hello All, question about downloading the source » 2021-04-10 11:25:36

You might be better off with a server cd set, im not sure about anything that is available as a cd set for testing/chimaera only stable beowulf. Im also not sure about how you would go downloading the source either, you need to understand the underpinnings of what devuan is, that being a fork of debian.

See this link for the server cd instructions. https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

server (~670 MB): CD1 of a 4 CD set that allows for a complete off-line server/minimal installation. The remaining CDs offer several desktop choices and a limited selection of additional software.

    CD2: Xfce (installable from tasksel) and LXDE.
    CD3: MATE (installable from tasksel) and Openbox window manager.
    CD4: Cinnamon (installable from tasksel) but requires CD2 and CD3 to install.

#213 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 16:10:41

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

On my hardware:

  1.7 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   4.5 MiB       mpg123

This is a 16GiB machine so Linux grabs all the memory it can for applications. I presume anticapitalista & dice have less memory available.

EDIT: death to MP3! Lossless compression ftw!

half yours on the machine im on at present. Valid point though.

Hey mp3 is ok, half my library is mp3, only the good stuff is flac wink

#214 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 15:58:14

anticapitalista wrote:
 1.8 MiB + 796.5 KiB =   2.6 MiB	mpg123.bin

we have a new winner!

But.

ps_mem.py -p 31564                                                                                                               
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

  1.1 MiB + 633.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB       mpg123.bin
---------------------------------
                          1.7 MiB
=================================

#215 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 15:17:02

cmus comes in below mocp but aplay FTW.

ps_mem.py -p 26253                                                                                               
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

 19.7 MiB +   5.5 MiB =  25.2 MiB       cmus
---------------------------------
                         25.2 MiB
=================================

#216 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 01:17:56

zapper wrote:

Actually, moc seems to be the lightest way to play audio that I know of.

ffplay is way more cpu usage intensive in my findings... heh.

cmus may be lighter, not sure havent tested.

#217 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 01:15:16

MiyoLinux wrote:

Don't use a bloated volume icon on your panel tongue ; just use the volume keys on your keyboard.

Here's what I have in my Openbox rc.xml file; adjust it to the needs of your WM/DE. By the way, this is for alsa-only...

    <keybind key="XF86AudioRaiseVolume">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>amixer set Master 5%+</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="XF86AudioLowerVolume">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>amixer set Master 5%-</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="XF86AudioMute">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>amixer set Master toggle</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>

I use the same/similar for dwm. But i dont need the percentage sign, not sure if that is due to my wm or yours?

static Key keys[] = {
        /* modifier                     key        function        argument */
        { 0,                    XF86XK_AudioMute,                  spawn,          SHCMD("amixer set Master toggle")},
        { 0,                    XF86XK_AudioRaiseVolume,           spawn,          SHCMD("amixer set Master 5+")},
        { 0,                    XF86XK_AudioLowerVolume,           spawn,          SHCMD("amixer set Master 5-")},

#218 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-07 13:56:00

I think if you have auto for something not plugged in like ethernet cable or usb dongle/smartphone tether it may hang on boot for a bit. Depends on your network gear, internal card or cable or usb etc. Lets see your intefaces file @ /etc/network/interfaces

#219 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Does anybody know the installation program for Simplicity Linux » 2021-04-06 14:14:53

Not trying to dissuade you from simplicity linux, but you may be better off using star linux.

As far as i am aware star linux installs like a debian installation with graphical user setup etc.

The files sizes for say an openbox window manager desktop are nicely sized at 650MB download.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/files/

http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4223

#220 Re: Off-topic » Is this the future of Linux » 2021-04-06 14:04:38

While bedrock and similar type of overlay packages and management might seem unique, i dont believe they will last the test of time. I would rather use packages straight from devuan and if i cant i may build them from source if need be. Case in point right now are suckless programs, i benefit more building them from source as i can control what features are added rather than installing dwm or dmenu via apt.

Im sticking with devuan for linux and openbsd for unix for the foreseeable future. They have both served my needs well for over many years.

#221 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 15:46:43

MLEvD wrote:

I have a few. Currently messing around with a 701sd. It's got 1 GB ram and 7.5 GiB ssd but I'm only using half, creating images for use on 700 2G and 4G models.
I have a few eee pc. Which ones are you interested in? I have an x101ch called ek9 who spends all her time compressing the images for me for archiving. There are a few 4G which I use three at a time as audio receiver, player, clock, and digital picture frames.

Well they are all old machines with outdated hardware, especially being eepc's. All im saying is that you may be expecting a little too much from such machine's. Im not really interested in the asus eepc, they were a shit design to begin with, the most bricked pc in existence.

#224 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 14:56:23

You dont, just accept it for what it is as long as it works.

I use ifup exclusively under devuan beowulf, my boot time is around 10 seconds to desktop with networking.

#225 Re: Off-topic » Archlinux installer » 2021-04-04 13:58:46

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
dice wrote:

they should just stick to the arch way

The ISO boots to a root shell rather than the new installer so the command line method is still available and I can't see this changing in the future.

I quite like the new installer because it uses a Python module to make it easily extensible and it doesn't use ****ing bash. It doesn't support non-UEFI systems (yet) and it defaults to systemd-boot & systemd-networkd but I like those anyway.

It is most likely early days for it, ill give it kudos for actually working without issues in my case. But it is still limited in its current form, lack of verbosity, partition and filesystem choices. But as you say the manual method is available as default.

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