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#2026 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2018-07-06 14:17:00
I don't think it's a vlc problem, or maybe I don't understand exactly what the problem is.
If I open vlc in ascii and add two videos to the playlist and then start playing, the first one plays with audio and video, and when that one is finished, the second one plays with audio and video.
Coincidentally, I tested this on a Toshiba Satellite, but this one is all intel.
#2027 Re: Installation » Deterministic names for network interfaces? » 2018-07-06 14:08:57
I think that's still the right place to put your own rules, but I don't really know much about udev rules or what goes into them. Did you try using KERNEL=="enp*" instead of KERNEL=="eth*"? (just a guess)
Another possibility is to rename the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces. See the section on MAPPING in man interfaces. You should be able to give them any names you want.
#2028 Re: Installation » Deterministic names for network interfaces? » 2018-07-04 11:18:07
Where did you put the rule?
I haven't tried ascii with two nics. Here's a discussion on the dng mailing list that might be helpful:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 1c.en.html
#2029 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 2.0.0 on Raspberry Pi 3 plus with GUI? » 2018-07-04 11:14:40
Install xinit. You might need to do this even if you install xorg, which is a metapackage that gives you all the drivers. Without that metapackage, make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-whatever, where whatever is the right one for the Pi3.
Here's some relevant infomation from the release notes:
### Starting X from a console (TTY)
In Devuan 2.0 ASCII, the X server no longer requires to be run with
root privileges. As a consequence, there are some additional
requirements to be met when launching X directly from a TTY (i.e.,
through 'xinit' or 'startx'), especially on systems upgraded from
Devuan Jessie.In Devuan 2.0 ASCII it is sufficient to install 'elogind' and
'libpam-elogind', and then use either 'startx' or 'xinit' as usual
from a regular user account. In this case, the Xorg log file will be
available under '~/.local/share/xorg/'.The system still needs to support Kernel Mode Setting (KMS).
Therefore, this solution may not work in some virtualization
environments (e.g. virtualbox) or if the kernel has no driver that
supports your graphic card.Alternatively, it is still possible to run X with setuid root. In this
case, you need to install `xserver-xorg-legacy` and ensure that the
file '/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config' contains the (uncommented) line:needs_root_rights=yes
#2030 Re: Installation » default packages » 2018-07-01 11:44:45
There are no plans to replace the debian-installer in the installer isos. It's an idea that's been discussed, but it would be a huge task. So yeah, if you can make a workaround for the problem, I'm sure a lot of people will be happy. This is a topic that comes up once in a while.
I do have plans (or at least a desire) to add code to the live installer for using lvm. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
#2031 Re: Installation » non-free available upon fresh install? » 2018-06-28 22:47:50
All the live isos have non-free wireless firmware already installed (except for a few broadcom packages) and all the installer isos have non-free wireless and other firmware packages in /firmware in the iso.
#2032 Re: Installation » non-free available upon fresh install? » 2018-06-28 20:48:00
Depends on which broadcom firmware you need. Some of the broadcom packages require a network connection to download the actual firmware files. Your might need to use a wired connection for the netinstall.
#2033 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta no-dbus experiment » 2018-06-28 20:42:49
For the icon sets that aren't working, check their Recommends, which are excluded by default. Something is probably missing.
If you want icons on the desktop and a background image, the easiest way to do it is to set spacefm to control the desktop.
#2034 Re: Devuan Derivatives » STAR: 2.0.1 Kirk, it's here! » 2018-06-27 15:35:28
Change sources from auto.mirror.devuan.org to deb.devuan.org for ascii and beyond. auto.mirror doesn't work right in ascii.
(Ozi, you might need to use pkgmaster.devuan.org for the builds. That's the case with live-sdk and might be the same for live-build.)
Now, if I can figure out why pkexec works correctly in your xfce but not in mine, I'll be very happy.
#2035 Re: Installation » I can not install the new Devuan(2) » 2018-06-27 12:30:47
Start the installer and select Help or else read /usr/share/doc/refractainstaller-base/readme.refractainstaller.txt (same thing).
#2036 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Enable Backports - Newbie Question » 2018-06-21 11:47:33
cynwulf wrote:To my knowledge backports ... does/did not, by default, allow automatic upgrades anyway.
Exactly. This is how it was and how it is right now. I just remember a brief timespan where adding backports actually resulted in apt wanting to upgrade my whole system to backports versions if available and i had to use pinning to keep it in check. Not sure if it was something i broke though. At some point it just worked again like we are all used to.
No, it wasn't something you broke. Early on, auto.mirror had the wrong priority on backports, and it got fixed. Then pkgmaster had the wrong priority on backports, and that got fixed. I keep it pinned, just in case.
/etc/apt/preferences.d/releases
Package: *
Pin: release a=ascii-backports
Pin-Priority: 100#2037 Re: Devuan » Devuan ASCII reviewed on DistroWatch Weekly » 2018-06-20 11:17:39
A few comments on this:
On the desktop are icons for opening the file manager, reading the distribution's release notes, launching the installer and changing the desktop font sizes. [...] Unfortunately, the text labels under the desktop icons do not handle being resized well. When we first start using Devuan, the text under the icons reads "Small", "Large" and "_Release Notes". Increasing the size one notch makes the text read "SM", "LA" and "_RE".
Can this be confirmed by anyone?
Yes, if you click on the desktop icon to increase the font size, the font size is increased and no longer fits in the allotted space for the unhighlighted desktop icons. Same as if the icons name is too long to fit in that space. When you click on the icon to hightlight it, that one icon is given more space so that the full name shows. This is true with large font the same as with a long file name.
Devuan supports working with just the ext2/3/4 file systems.
Refractainstaller will automatically format the selected partitions to your choice of ext2/3/4 unless you tell it not to. Other filesystem formats are possible by pre-formatting your partitions and telling the installer not to format. This information is in the Help available from within the installer.
We are asked which language locales should be set up, with options being pulled from a cryptic list with entries like "en_US.UTF-8". We then select our keyboard layout from a similar set of lists.
The live installer provides the exact same debconf dialogues for locales, time zone and keyboard as the debian-installer. (same as if you run dpkg-reconfigure locales|tzdata|keyboard-configuration)
#2038 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta no-dbus experiment » 2018-06-17 21:51:09
Forgot to mention that I excluded Recommends.
msi, you can add firefox-esr to the list. And maybe audacity under its own category - audio editing
FWIW: Some previous versions of Refracta (the regular one, with xfce) had deadbeef. At some point, we switched to audacious because it was in the repo.
#2039 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-17 21:24:20
Perhaps public requests in Forum Feedback would be a better option to suggest a need for administrative action.
There's already a Report button at the bottom of each post, but it looks like it hardly ever gets used. 90% of the reports are for spam, and we don't even get those anymore. (Thanks, Ralph!) Maybe we just need to point out that button's existence in the top post. Or maybe we don't - this is a pretty calm board, even when it heats up.
#2040 Re: Installation » Installation attempt does not seem to see partitions » 2018-06-17 20:59:09
Glad you got it working. For future reference -
In gparted, go to Device --> Create partition table
and then where it says 'mdos' is a drop-down menu with partition table types.
#2041 Re: Installation » Installation attempt does not seem to see partitions » 2018-06-17 18:26:28
The installer in the live isos does not do any automatic partitioning. After you close gparted, you should get questions about where to put the OS, and if you made separate partitions for /home or /boot, you get to select those, too.
Some lenovos won't let you use legacy boot. I don't know the details on that.
If you're booting in uefi mode, you will need to re-partition your drive.
In gparted, first go to the Device menu and write a new gpt partition table. You must have left it set for msdos.
At minimum, you will need a partition for the OS and an efi partition (with esp and boot flags). The swap partition is optional - the installer will create a swapfile if there's no swap partition.
If you want to use a gpt-partitioned disk with legacy boot, you need to create a special partition for that. It must be >1MB and unformatted. (It's at the bottom of the list of filesystem types in gparted). And it must have the bios_grub flag.
#2042 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-17 00:06:42
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is just an ignore filter with a public record of who is being ignored (but not a public record of who is doing the ignoring.)
Did I get it right? Or does the ignored get to find out who is doing the ignoring? I know if I got ignored, I'd like to know who is ignoring me, so that I could decide whether I care or not.
#2043 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta no-dbus experiment » 2018-06-16 12:18:30
No systemd-shim. The only package with systemd in its name is libsystemd0, and that was needed for xorg.
There's a full package list in the root of the iso.
#2044 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to install KDE using apt-get ? » 2018-06-16 12:13:38
There are several metapackages for installing kde. Some pull in more packages than others. To see what you would get with each, run apt-cache depends kde-full and do the same for
kde-plasma-desktop
plasma-desktop
kde-standard
task-kde-desktop
kde-baseapps
#2045 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta no-dbus experiment » 2018-06-15 20:51:34
- fsmithred
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Refracta no-dbus build (experiment)
The subject of running without dbus comes up from time to time in various places. I decided to try it and see how far I could get. I started with a debootstrap install of devuan ascii, pinned dbus to a priority of -1, and proceeded to make the same changes as I do to make Refracta live isos. Normally, the Refracta isos use xfce, but that's not possible without dbus.
I was surprised to see how much did install without dbus. So I thought I'd share it. This build uses openbox, lxpanel, lxterminal and spacefm.
Maybe someone will want to use it. Maybe it will inspire someone else to do something better. Feeback is welcome.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … 2_0156.iso
sha256sum:
633634c3ac2beb06252b29bc78b3135f5f5ded473a72f42e5dc6c17d326d1f17
Login/Password:
user/user
root/root
No display manager. Run 'startx' to get a desktop.
Edit: I excluded Recommends. That might make a big difference if you're trying to install packages without pulling in dbus.
echo "APT::Install-Recommends \"no\";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/norecommends
# These can be installed without dbus and without libsystemd0
rsync bash-completion busybox kbd locales firmware-linux-free deborphan unzip lvm2 cryptsetup sshfs \
hwinfo alsa-utils moc pppoeconf pppconfig pppoe ntfs-3g dosfstools curl \
live-boot live-config live-boot-initramfs-tools live-config-sysvinit squashfs-tools xorriso pmount pv \
syslinux syslinux-common syslinux-utils isolinux xz-utils gdisk parted hexedit iftop smartmontools lm-sensors \
hdparm testdisk fdupes irssi iptraf ethtool scrot wipe mlocate wireless-tools wpasupplicant \ # get libdbus-1-3 here
gddrescue screen feh hddtemp p7zip-full partimage pm-utils sysv-rc-conf tree wodim htop bzip2 whois \
lsb-release file setnet net-tools cifs-utils mdadm arp-scan \
dialog live-boot-doc live-config-doc refractainstaller-base refractasnapshot-base \
btrfs-tools btrfs-progs pciutils psmisc rename tcpd usbutils uuid-runtime dnsutils \
eject telnet usbutils util-linux-locales vrms mutt sudo
# These were installed after allowing libsystemd0
xorg openbox spacefm lxterminal lxpanel obconf lxappearance lxappearance-obconf lxrandr \
linux-headers-4.9.0-6-amd64 build-essential xserver-xorg-legacy xserver-xephyr xterm aptitude \
icewm xarchiver leafpad links2 xpdf mpv yad ***grub-of-your-choice***
x11vnc xtightvncviewer grsync bleachbit meld asunder winff \
mplayer ffmpeg volumeicon-alsa tilda geeqie dkms transmission-gtk gftp \
xserver-xorg-video-intel xscreensaver xinput libnotify-bin hexchat \
abiword hardinfo gdmap gimp geany firejail firefox-esr
deadbeef http://sourceforge.net/projects/deadbee … b/download
firemenu https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … nu-1.2.deb
refracta2usb https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … -2.3.6.deb
These will NOT install. (and probably a lot more that I didn't try.)
audacious xfburn wicd connman libpam-elogind synaptic gdebi
#2046 Re: Installation » extlinux install from Devuan ASCII installer shell. » 2018-06-15 15:07:52
Sorry I don't have anything useful to add. When I get a chance, I'll try extlinux with a multi-boot system and let you know what I find.
#2047 Re: Installation » fsmithred - observation on Refracta - EFI frame buffer » 2018-06-15 15:01:37
I'm surprised the live installer didn't display the nvme disk/partitions. That's been in there since 9.2.1. Support for uefi in the cli installer was added in 9.3-something. Currently, 9.4.2 is in ascii. If you use that version (graphical) and it doesn't show the nvme, please let me see the error log. (if you start it from terminal instead of from the apps menu, please add the -d option for a debug log.)
The efi partition selection window should work correctly in the latest versions. There's still the problem of knowing which disk is first. If the bios/uefi provides a boot device menu (F12 or other key may do it) you can see which disk the motherboard wants to use, and you probably have to use that one.
For uefi, you must use gpt partitioning.
Refracta Installer will let you have separate partitions for other directories. In the graphical installer, it's in the Options menu, and for the cli installer, there's an option in the config file. It's a bit of a hack - the system gets installed first, and then those directories get copied to the additional partitions, and the originals get deleted. If you're installing an encrypted system, don't use this feature. The additional partitions won't be encrypted.
3.16 kernel is in jessie. Ascii has 4.9. Which iso are you using?
Here's an updated iso with ascii-backports 4.16 kernel and new refractainstaller -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … 5_1409.iso
#2048 Re: Installation » extlinux install from Devuan ASCII installer shell. » 2018-06-13 23:23:12
If it's already dual boot and you're adding another OS, couldn't you just make a new entry in the existing boot menu?
You could let it install grub and then switch to extlinux. When I did that, it was easy. I didn't set it up for multiple systems, but I do use syslinux on multiboot live-usb frequently, but those are all on the same partition. I'm not sure what happens when you want to boot from different partitions.
At the slim login screen, press F1 to toggle different window managers.
#2049 Re: Installation » extlinux install from Devuan ASCII installer shell. » 2018-06-13 12:30:14
Here are my notes on installing extlinux (after installation of the system)
To do it from within the installer, alt-F2 to get to a console.
chroot /targetThen you should be able to install extlinux.
Note: you must choose one of the expert installs to prevent grub from being installed.
#2050 Re: Installation » fsmithred - observation on Refracta - EFI frame buffer » 2018-06-11 22:53:15
Re-reading this thread...
But my BIOS/UEFI only seems to recognize it as a legacy device, not as a UEFI device.
If the motherboard is set to uefi, it will look for bootloaders on the efi partition, which must be fat32 with esp and boot flags. If you use the version of refractainstaller currently in ascii, it will complain if there's no proper efi partition, and if there's more than one, it will give you a choice of which one to use. (Which may or may not be the one your motherboard chooses to use.)
Are you using one of the isos I made with the ascii-backports kernel? (I think it was 4.12 or 4.13.) Ryzen needs newer kernels than the stock ascii kernel.
If it turns out that your hardware won't let you boot from the nvme disk, you could probably just move the /boot dir to its own partition on a sata drive. Or maybe it only wants the efi partition on a different drive. (Just making guesses here.)
And if you're using gpt partitioning with legacy boot, you need to make a special partition, >1MB unformatted, with bios_grub flag (in gparted) or ef02 (in gdisk), otherwise grub-install will fail.
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