LOL! I have never written code and I couldn't write a bash script if my life depended on it! That is not what I do for Devuan. Yet Devuan would not be what is is today without my presence. If you don't know that by now you really haven't a clue about what makes Devuan tick.

But contemplate this . . . Dyne only provided airfare to the Amsterdam Conference to two people and I was one of them. Seems that Jaromil had a different assessment of the value of my contributions to Devuan . . .

Sorry to tell you that it is you with the clueless, false narrative, steve_v.

Hmmmm . . . I wonder who that might be . . . LOL!! 

Indeed . . . Another version of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" and we never seem to lean . . .

Did you forget to take your meds, zapper?

Checkmate!

@prospero . . . Thanks for your insight. Made my day!

@ greenjeans . . . There are detailed instructions for theming Xfce HERE. Maybe that will give you some hints of what might need to be done on Mate if you want to play with it. Don't panic!  Most of it it for theming ALL parts of a new release, not just the default desktop . . . unless you want to be a hero . . .

You completely missed the point of my comment . . .

They are stupid and ugly and for lower life forms . . .

@zapper . . . Thanks. The colors are subtle and really pop out when it is full screen

Hey greenjeans . . . I have an idea that you may or may not like. I created a desktop background graphic for excalibur. It is an anti-war statement named "deathmetal". It combines the dark metal of a sword (I looked at a LOT of them) with a tinge of "gangrene" which is a possible result to the victim. Feel free to use it if you like. If it doesn't suit you, that's fine too.

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … rge-M2.svg

I tried to get someone to further develp that theme but no takers.

And in you, igorzwx, a symptom of delusional arrogance on steroids.

That graphic also keeps morphing as new systemd dependencies are introduced. Something like the green slime . . . LOL!