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#1251 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2017-11-18 22:39:27

golinux wrote:

@Miyo . . . do you have screenies of your themes anywhere?  And what desktops are they for?

Check my Vuu-do screenies, they all use Miyolinux Dark (and likely always will as they are exactly my cup of tea)!

#1252 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2017-11-18 22:37:46

fungus wrote:

Little birdy came by and told me about this menu making pkg called kickshaw
It looks like ob-gen menus but  simpler and more reliable.
What do you do without panel or anything else, having a system autologin to openbox with the obmenu-generator going dead and all you get is a right click that ob-gen is not working.  And none of the shortcuts to other ttys work.
Thank goddess for a power button and the end of the chord!

I have literally never had a problem with obmenu-generator.

But I imagine trying to "upgrade" to ascii or ceres or anything else that's not only unstable at the moment but isn't in fact even an official alpha release, might present some issues....

I guarantee you when the VUA's officially release 2.0, that I will produce a stable Vuu-do that most likely will still use Obmenu-generator as it's simple and relatively bulletproof IF you use it in a stable distribution. wink

#1253 Re: Off-topic » Firefox Quantum » 2017-11-18 20:52:45

fungus wrote:

I use to go through about:config on firefox and run a search for google and chrome and turn everything off

It doesn't even matter last time I checked, been a while but the first thing FF used to do when you first fired it up, was download about 70 mb of crap from google, bad website lists and whatnot, haven't checked 57 yet, but it really used to piss folks off when they'd go on about how they used FF because they didn't want google spyware on their machine, and i'd point out that file.

#1254 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2017-11-18 20:44:54

MiyoLinux wrote:

Plus, it's been so long since I worked on the MiyoLinux themes, I hadn't noticed that they were missing several options. Got that fixed too.

So....code please for your children who use Miyolinux themes exclusively. wink

#1255 Re: Off-topic » Firefox Quantum » 2017-11-17 22:39:21

Trying it now (just extracted, not installed) and I have to say first impressions are good, it's so much faster than the crappy esr (52?) that it doesn't even seem like the same family of browser.

@golinux: you may have an add-on problem, lol, 23 seems a little.....excessive. wink

Honored my GTK2 theme (Miyolinux Dark + Vuu-do'ed Numix Frost) right out of the box, I appreciate that quite a bit.

*EDIT* woops, spoke too soon, tried youtube and this browser says it requires Pulseaudio for sound, zero chance i'm installing that junk just to use this browser. Pretty stupid move IMO.

#1256 Re: DIY » The hunt for a good browser 2017 edition » 2017-11-17 22:25:20

Testing Firefox Quantum now, Miyo is giving it high marks and I see some other folks singing it's praises online, so thought i'd give it a whirl, just downed the tar.bz and am running it unpacked but not installed for now.

First impression: Looks nicer than previous editions, and is honoring my gtk2 theme right out of the box, so that's a good deal.

#1257 Re: Installation » How to install the latest python? » 2017-11-14 22:56:33

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

By the looks of it, "python" doesn't make use of the "alternatives" set up, but have /usr/bin/python as a link (to python2.7). You might change that but that could have severe ramifications, because there are more than a few system programs using python, and these may well expect and/or utilize python2.7.

The above part I bolded is 100% true.

Shirase: before it's over with you'll probably have 3 versions of Python. An easy way to test if something is needed is to try and uninstall it in Synaptic, if you get a huge list of stuff it wants to uninstall with it then you know for sure.

#1258 Re: Off-topic » YAD Tutorial Site? » 2017-11-14 22:46:57

MiyoLinux wrote:

I'm not much into coding, but Yad makes me want to stinkin' code. LOLOLOL! tongue

I know right? Me too, working on a simple image cropper to use for a pcmanfm extension. I actually made one that works in two lines of code but only works right on an image that's the size of your screen or smaller because it uses scrot's select function, it will crop any size image but since scrot only works on the visible image as opposed to the actual image, the crop on larger images is too small.

Gonna have to figure out how to do it with imagemagick or maybe the python pil library....but the quickie scrot method was just too fun not to try.

If you have gpicview, yad, and scrot, try this (replace the image file name with one of yours), the gpicview portion is to view the cropped image and also to close yad window:

yad --title="Select area using the mouse" --picture --close-on-unfocus --no-buttons --size=fit --filename=IMG_8678.JPG --center --width=800 --height=600 &
scrot -q 100 -s -e 'gpicview $f'

#1259 Re: Off-topic » YAD Tutorial Site? » 2017-11-14 00:33:42

Maybe we should make this a dedicated yad thread for tutorials and script examples? Yad is crazy, I think that guy is out to take over the world, it does just about anything you could imagine now...

#1260 Re: Other Issues » Wicd not auto connecting.. - Have to turn of/on/refresh to get list » 2017-11-13 23:53:55

MiyoLinux wrote:

I kept hoping greenjeans would address this. LOLOL!

You are way more eloquent than I am, so I waited you out!

Couldn't have put it better. I LOVE your style, your sense of the aesthetic, color choices, the excellent Miyolinux Dark OB theme, and your ability to reach outside the repo to find new and innovative solutions like Obmenu-generator and the Numix themes.

I think our work the last few months has really complimented each other, I know mine is vastly improved due to the Miyo influence.

But in the end, more is better, even if it's a bunch of one-man shows like we got going. Makes for a healthy, diverse, and robust development environment. I'm super happy with what's happening here, and looking forward to ascii and beowulf for new challenges.

I keep hoping i'll log on one day and see "Fungi-Linux" on the list wink

#1261 Re: Installation » [Solved] How to install the new version of Firefox on Devuan? » 2017-11-13 23:43:14

cynwulf wrote:

Otter Browser (Opera 12 style) is nicer than "Opera": https://otter-browser.org/

QT5....yuck.

#1262 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-11-13 21:34:05

fungus wrote:

I want one with backgammon but still under 0.5G

Okay, i'll give it a shot (I like backgammon!), I have to sit down and update the 32 bit Openbox iso first, it's still on version 1.0.2, I really should either update the Mate isos too or take them down, they are way behind the curve as well....

#1263 Re: Other Issues » Wicd not auto connecting.. - Have to turn of/on/refresh to get list » 2017-11-13 21:29:22

Boot-up Manager is in the repo if you need an easy GUI way to disable items from startup, I use it in Vuu-do to turn off bluetooth, cups etc.

#1264 Re: Off-topic » YAD Tutorial Site? » 2017-11-13 21:24:11

fsmithred wrote:

How do you get the window to stay up when you make a selection?

When the last portion of a button is a command instead of a result, the yad window stays open until you close it manually.

If however you want it to close after making the selection, the quick-n-dirty way is to add --close-on-unfocus, most window managers focus new windows automatically or as the default setting, so after the selection opens the yad window will close automatically.

Here's an example, this is my solitaire chooser:

#!/bin/sh

# Simple version chooser for the solitaire program (ace of penguins), avoids having to have separate menu entries.

yad --close-on-unfocus --fixed --center --form --title=Solitaire --borders=10 --text-align=center --text "- Choose which version to play -" --button=Klondike!/usr/share/icons/Oxy2-ZEN/24x24/apps/gnome-aisleriot.png!"Click to play Klondike (classic solitaire)":/usr/games/ace-solitaire --button=Freecell!/usr/share/icons/Oxy2-ZEN/24x24/apps/gnome-aisleriot.png!"Click to play Freecell":/usr/games/ace-freecell --button=Canfield!/usr/share/icons/Oxy2-ZEN/24x24/apps/gnome-aisleriot.png!"Click to play Canfield":/usr/games/ace-canfield

#1265 Re: Other Issues » Wicd not auto connecting.. - Have to turn of/on/refresh to get list » 2017-11-11 20:59:12

MiyoLinux wrote:

That's why I switched over to connman and cmst on my latest releases... ;p

Seems to be much less finicky... wink

Reminds me, I need to download your latest and check out all the cool stuff i'm gonna steal for next version of Vuu-do wink

#1266 Re: Other Issues » Wicd not auto connecting.. - Have to turn of/on/refresh to get list » 2017-11-11 19:57:12

FYI wicd is just specific about which routers it likes, and those it doesn't like. There are also unresolved conflicts with other programs in the repo, using the Aurora theme engine for instance will screw wicd up BAD, I have no idea why but as yet no warning about that in the package description, Aurora has had problems with multiple programs for years, and needs to be dropped or fixed. Damn shame as it's very pretty.

Some routers wicd will put up the list and will try to connect, but hang up at the IP address portion, anytime you see wicd hanging up on that last step for more than a few seconds, click cancel and then try again and it will usually connect.

#1267 Re: Off-topic » YAD Tutorial Site? » 2017-11-11 19:50:35

Well i'm a little late to the party, but have some good links somewhere, here's one to the main discussion about yad on the Puppy linux forum:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97458

There's a blog called the Linux Rain that has several good tuts, this is a great one for just starting out:

http://www.thelinuxrain.com/articles/mu … y-with-yad

One thing to remember when experimenting with Yad on your machine, if you are trying commands in terminal, most terminals including LXterminal are bash terminals, while Devuan runs on dash, so things won't always work the same, bashisms will cause a /bin/sh script to fail or not work right, and there are some things that will work perfectly as a dash script but won't work right in terminal.

#1268 Re: Off-topic » lol! » 2017-11-10 00:33:55

golinux wrote:
greenjeans wrote:
golinux wrote:

LOL.  After a sweaty day in 100 degree heat, I often strip on the front porch.

Hell I do that on 70 degree days. Usually sipping a beer.

At 70 degrees, I'm in a hoodie and down vest.  smile

I'm gonna do the local polar bear plunge this year, but i'm gonna horrify my neighbors by doing it in a g-string, lololol! All for charity so they can't say squat. wink

#1269 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] MiyoQt releases » 2017-11-10 00:24:46

MiyoLinux wrote:

Well...no sir, I'm not saying that's the reason why the original ones are very slow...and they're not just very slow...they are VERY SLOW. I'm talking like 15 - 20 minutes just to do an apt-get update.  yikes  neutral

Not the case here at all, did multiple updates in several partitions the last few days, all on the old US.mirror, and everything has been rock-a-doodle-doo so far.

#1270 Re: Off-topic » lol! » 2017-11-10 00:18:11

golinux wrote:

LOL.  After a sweaty day in 100 degree heat, I often strip on the front porch.

Hell I do that on 70 degree days. Usually sipping a beer.

yup. may do it later.

#1271 Re: Off-topic » lol! » 2017-11-09 23:33:58

Good lord, the thread title is "LOL"...y'all DO know what that stands for right?

#1272 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-11-09 23:26:51

New version 1.0.5 of Vuu-do Openbox-64 is now uploaded, both minimal and maximal. Changes have been mostly noted in this thread at least the major ones, as usual there has been a ton of small stuff and some not-so small stuff.

Maximal is down nicely to 570 mb due to some more icon removal and removing Libreoffice's giant gallery of stuff most people don't use. But Writer will now import/export/create/edit pdf's, and cups will print them, and Libre now follows the Vuu-do gtk theme.

New calendar, new Inkscape functionality, I actually added some needed icons to Oxy2-ZEN while flushing others.

Plus now you get Minesweeper. wink

Lots of updates from Devuan including some security and updated keyrings etc., all working smoothly, Amprolla rocks!

Best Vuu-do yet, enjoy!

#1273 Re: Other Issues » Problem with live installation of devuan stable 1.0 x86_64 » 2017-11-07 22:00:12

/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod (lots of files in the folder)

If you don't have the i386-pc folder you won't have the .mod file. I looked this up a while back to see if I could delete that folder since I run 64 bit, turns out you can't for several reasons, you can google it to see. But you will need the file.

Amiga sound tracker audio...weird that it still needs this stuff.

#1274 Re: News & Announcements » Expansion of the development team » 2017-11-06 22:36:53

The group of ruffians collectively known as the Devs of Devuan Derivatives on the other hand, would now like to be known as:

The Knights who say "D" (but not in front of children).

We shall say D to you again if you do not appease us. We no longer want shrubbery, we want beer. A nice pale ale will do, not too hoppy mind you.

wink

#1275 Re: Off-topic » lol! » 2017-11-06 20:39:35

cynwulf wrote:

Personally I would not have one of those things in my home, but then I don't own a smartphone either...

Right there with ya, I have literally never owned a smartphone.

10 dollah fliphone, my phone bill for an entire year is usually just over $40 bucks.

I still put tape over the camera though. wink

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