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#1226 Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-12 22:46:53
- golinux
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[A very off-topic response]
not really into appearance/theme stuff, but mentioning the island where i live, caught my eye
Lucky you! In the 70s I spent 2 summers sailing with a friend from Guernsey to France across the Bay of Biscay to Spain, Portugal, then Tangier, though the Straits of Gibraltar, more Spain and finally Ibiza. We really wanted to make it all the way to Greece but chatter about pirates from N. Africa targeting Westerners dampened our resolve to actually do it. LOL! Sad that I never was able to fulfill that pipe dream . . .
p.s. in case anyone wonders, picture is from "Seitan Limania" beach.
I am a bit confused how this Japanese delight got to Greece. But then, I'm confused about a lot of things . . . LOL!
#1227 Devuan » Meet the Daedalus sapphire theme » 2022-02-12 00:52:34
- golinux
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Here's a sneak peek of the Daedalus "sapphire" theme. It's presented on black because the light background of the forum kills the intense blue which has a "glow" on the desktop:
This theme was inspired by the jewel-like waters of the Mediterranean sea where Daedalus was born on the island of Crete:
Note that a 1080p specific background option will be available for Daedalus thanks to Lars Noodén!
More to come . . . 
#1228 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-PENDING] First time r-e-i-s-u-b didn't work » 2022-02-09 17:38:37
That needed to be done long before Devuan existed. That doesn't mean that it wasn't intentional but not for reasons you might be imagining . . . I can't explain why it was working on previous releases without enabling it.
#1229 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-PENDING] First time r-e-i-s-u-b didn't work » 2022-02-09 07:06:10
HoaS . . . You are my hero!
#1230 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Error with apt update » 2022-02-09 05:32:18
Much appreciated. Thanks!
#1231 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-PENDING] First time r-e-i-s-u-b didn't work » 2022-02-09 03:07:23
Many years ago, I was advised to type those letters s-l-o-w-l-y or it wouldn't work. Seems it needs time to do stuff along the way. This may or may not be true. I also remember that something has to be allowed for it to work. I think it has worked for me but also seem to remember it failing at other times. Maybe I'm just confused . . . LOL!
#1232 Re: Devuan » Devuan Conference 2 » 2022-02-08 19:16:30
Hey Plentyn! Nice to see you!! Jaromil has mentioned another conference recently but I think that the core in AMS has scatted due to COVID. I know I won't be able to come again. No vax = no air travel.
#1233 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Error with apt update » 2022-02-08 07:37:23
Hi everyone,
I installed Devuan (devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso) I need to run few apt install
any ideas ?
It looks like there is a typo. It should be chimaera not chimera.
Also . . . would be nice if you could actually post the code using the code tags rather than posting off-site images.
Thanks.
And looks like you might have a clock issue and need to comment the CDROM line in sources.list
#1234 Re: Other Issues » Weird option in Chromium settings » 2022-02-07 17:19:40
Not if you're already bothering to disable the Analytics javascript in every site you visit.
I thought uBlock Origin did that automatically. Maybe I'm missing something . . .
#1235 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Desktop locked up .. how to solve?? » 2022-02-05 06:12:37
Here's the old gnome xkill icon 
It has disappeared from the search engines but I have been keeping it alive for a very long time in my icon collection. Enjoy!
#1236 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Desktop locked up .. how to solve?? » 2022-02-05 02:48:22
golinux wrote:I have an xkill launcher in my xfce panel. Very helpful for misbehaving browsers
Will xkill kill the panel / taskbar if you click on that ?
Not sure if I wanted to try because not sure how to get it back if it does.. lol
In my experience, it won't destroy the panel even if you do accidentally click it! At least on jessie and earlier because I have accidentally clicked outside the intended target a few times. It does kill the browser when you click and on restart, the session has been saved and I am able to get right back to work. I just tested FF on a chimaera VM and it seems to remember where I left of without saving the session. IOW, it reloaded the pages automatically.
#1237 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Desktop locked up .. how to solve?? » 2022-02-04 18:34:31
I have an xkill launcher in my xfce panel. Very helpful for misbehaving browsers 
#1238 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How do I shutdown » 2022-01-30 20:40:41
There is also this solution from fsmithred:
su was moved from the shadow source package to util-linux, and the behavior changed at that time. To revert to the old behavior (from man su):
echo 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' >> /etc/default/su
#1239 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to choose runit while installing? Which iso provides that? » 2022-01-28 18:20:54
Only the netinstall provides an init choice during installation. The "live" disk just copies pre-configured files of a default install. Then you can change init post-install,
#1240 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to choose runit while installing? Which iso provides that? » 2022-01-28 00:44:55
Look at screenshot #19 in the install guide
#1241 Re: News & Announcements » Daedalus desktop needs some love » 2022-01-27 22:59:46
@aitor . . . there have been a few nibbles. I am hopeful!
#1242 Re: Installation » (Chimaera) Suspend fails over Screenlock not functioning Lenovo T440p » 2022-01-27 18:33:22
Ahoy fredd . . . I can't help with your issue but I can tell you that it's soooooo nice to see you after a very long time. Have missed you . . .
#1243 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-21 16:31:58
@Altoid . . . Thing is . . . the task requires a color palette and a descriptive image doesn't provide that. Thanks for the input.
#1244 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-20 16:51:37
. . . Then each release would have a distinct 'seal' so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style. eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.
Just wanted to clarify one thing here as a caution to never make assumptions (which humans all too often do). The chimaera that inspired the "deepsea" theme should have been a clue that it wasn't the chimaera described above. It was the pointy-nosed blue chimaera Hydrolagus trolli. Nice video at the bottom . . .
#1245 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 19:23:38
Hello:
golinux wrote:. . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful.
Yes ...
But as helpful as it may be, (in my opinion, ymmv) I think the amount of work involved is a luxury we cannot afford.
I took on that burden because I am an extremely visual person. And yes it is (or was) a labor of love for Devuan to be beautiful (IMO) as well as functional.
There's more than enough for Devuan to do as things stand to just continue existing.
This is also true. Yet in all the bike-shedding that is currently going on, except for aitor, not one comment has come from a Devuan contributor (afaik).
ie: golinux's brave efforts are pointed at something that is excessively burdensome, complex and (again, imo) unnecessary.
Isn't all art ultimately "unnecessary". Yet, it has a purpose. Jaromil understands this. All I know is that my efforts have been appreciated by many Devuan users.
Devuan could, for example, decide on a trademark/specific colour on which we could all vote. (cringes at the prospect ...)
Heaven help us all . . .
Then each release would have a distinct 'seal' so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style.
Yes, the release name could be added to the wallpaper and elsewhere. We have already been mulling over just continuing with Chimaera theming going forward.
eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.
Just text would be sufficient or we will be in perpetual bike-shedding . . .
There would then be only one thing to change: the 'seal' for each release, like the back side of commemorative coins, within certain pre-established design parameters.
Now, if that causes any confusion, you could just add a whole number after/above/below it and use uname -a to get the details.
Just an idea.
Your input is appreciated.
#1246 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 16:14:35
Why not just stick to what we have(?).
Exactly . . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful. Recycling them as the official release default is likely to cause confusion.
Why do we need to keep on changing it(?).
As to the layout . . . no need to change it at all.
You could always include the release name in small letters at the bottom right or left of the 'official' background.
(If you wanted it identifying as a new release).
That is one possibility but not really the best solution. In any case . . . I understand all the themes are working in Daedalus. If at some point that changes or if Xfce becomes unworkable, it will be back to square one.
#1247 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 03:50:44
I'm not certain where devuan wants to be. If it were me, and it isn't, I'd suggest that devuan operate with offering a single branded DE that is minimalist in nature. Because Devuan is more akin to Debian than anything else that could be xfce.
Isn't that what we've been doing for the last 7 years. All Devuan artwork for Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Chimeaera is here. That includes theming for the Xfce desktop.
#1248 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 03:31:04
If there's any objective to increase the user base for Devuan then IMO more wallpaper choices should be a priority.
Devuan's objective is to provide Debian without systemd. We are not interested in marketing. Our original intention was to provide a minimal system! If fsmithred hadn't stepped up to do the live isos and I hadn't gone down the rabbit hole with Hellekin and others to put together the theming and logo etc., there would only have been default desktop theming.
#1249 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-18 17:34:40
What should the color scheme be when the Daedalus release arrives?
That is for those who are willing to participate in the the actual work to decide.
#1250 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-18 17:32:28
This is a very specific HELP WANTED post that is going to all sorts of unrelated places.
Can we please try to keep the puppy on the newspaper? I'll split some wandering posts off into a new thread after I wake up.
So who is willing to take on this specific task as described in post #1. Period.
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