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#101 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-04-20 05:50:20
Very interesting thread! I'm nobody from the middle of nowhere, but I'm following this.
Aside from the possible dangers of AI in itself, isn't it also about the trust of the companies and organisations developing it? I don't trust them at all. I think they're a bunch of 25-year olds without connection to reality. Without life experience. They went straight thru school and got their Ph. D. They got the worlds best education but they are still narrow minded. They've got horse blinders on and can't see the whole picture.
Just because you can do a thing, should you do it? My doubts are that they can not handle the morals and ethics of it.
My 2 cents..
#102 Re: DIY » Preliminary notes on migration from Ubuntu 18.04 to Beowulf » 2023-02-28 06:22:22
My big migration from soon outdated Ubuntu 18.04 to Devuan Chimaera is coming up. I've been planning this for years, since it is on my main, daily used 24//7, machine.
Somehow I couldn't edit the first post here, but one thing is out and that is Wicd. It isn't supported anymore (outdated Python deps, I understand)
Work in progress...
#103 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stupid two screen question (screens before login) » 2023-02-28 06:15:32
It was the old Sony TV that was grumpy. Changed to a Philips a tad newer and grub menu is visible again.
#104 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stupid two screen question (screens before login) » 2023-02-20 09:51:29
- swanson
- Replies: 5
I've got two screens connected, one Sony TV 32" (old LCD) and one noname 17" regular PC screen. The problem is before login when it seems like the system alters between the two at boot, before login. After login in Xfce - no problem.
So I can't see the grub menu. I'm sure it's there but for that brief moment the screen is black. It's no biggie because , if needed, I can disconnect one of the screens and I'm sure I'll see the grub menu again.
What can I do with the configs, grub or whatever, before boot?
#105 Re: Installation » Got sound in Firefox with only alsa and JACK! » 2023-02-20 02:41:16
Downloading Librewolf as we speak....
( https://librewolf.net/installation/debian/ )
#106 Re: Installation » Got sound in Firefox with only alsa and JACK! » 2023-02-19 08:53:43
I looked for Librewolf but it's not in the repos?
#107 Re: Installation » Install on a recent lenovo going badly, anyone know an answer » 2023-02-18 20:36:36
Are you trying Chimaera or Beowulf ? I had sort of same problems with Chimaera booting from USB but I prepared the USB stick with Beowulf instead, and it worked. Beowulf is easy to upgrade immediately to Chimarea if you want to. No problems since.
#108 Installation » Got sound in Firefox with only alsa and JACK! » 2023-02-18 15:56:55
- swanson
- Replies: 16
Must report success! Set up my DAW with Devuan couple of weeks ago replacing PCLinuxOS. Got JACK 2 and Qjackctl plus Reaper/Midi/Audio working wihtout too much hazzle. Of course without Pulseaudio and no Pipewire either.
But no sound in Firefox or Chrome. No biggie but it is nice to be able to listen to youtube tracks/music on your DAW.
I finally solved it after hours of googling and several .asoundrc versions.
This is the .asoundrc that fixed it:
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave { pcm "jack" }
}
pcm.jack {
type jack
playback_ports {
0 system:playback_1
1 system:playback_2
}
capture_ports {
0 system:capture_1
1 system:capture_2
}
}
ctl.mixer0 {
type hw
card 0
}Not using apulse either. Jack2 and Qjackctl are running at boot and voilá sound in Firefox-esr! No sound in google chrome or chromium yet, but that's ok.
I did check though, that the proper audio interface was default card 0. I also double checked that the DAW, Reaper, worked, and it did.
Just wanna share if some other Devuan fan running JACK encounters the same problem.
EDIT: Holy Crap!! There IS sound in Google Chrome too!!! Just needed to restart it.
Keywords: alsa, asoundrc, firefox, chrome, jack, jack2, daw, reaper
#109 Re: Installation » New PC (used) just moved SSD and boot! » 2023-02-15 18:02:44
Thanks guys!
#110 Installation » New PC (used) just moved SSD and boot! » 2023-02-15 14:44:11
- swanson
- Replies: 3
I just got my new used PC and moved the SSD with my Devuan install and success! It booted right away!
Newer Bios:es are scary with Secure Boot, UEFI, TPM and stuff but I looked thru the bios settings beforehand and legacy boot seemed activated.
This is my DAW machine and everything worked; second HD, USB audio card, ethernet, and best of all - both my screens worked as well. Almost no config at all.
It's an HP PRODESK 600 G2, i7. Bought it from a company for about 250 EUR/260 USD.
So Devuan is the thing!
#111 Re: Devuan » Thanks Devuan Team! Successful transition to Devuan! » 2023-01-31 11:36:21
Thanks!
#112 Devuan » Thanks Devuan Team! Successful transition to Devuan! » 2023-01-28 20:20:40
- swanson
- Replies: 2
I just made the transition from an outdated and botched PC Linux OS installation to Devuan. It was on my music studio desktop machine.
After some tinkering I now got Jack, QJackctl and Reaper running with an USB Midi Keyboard and a Focusrite 2in4 audio interface. Latency is OK, but I will try the RT kernel and see if it can fix a tiny bit better latency on my old machine. And two screens directly at first boot!
Thanks Dev Team!
PS. I've been using Ubuntu since 2007 and I really do not like the way it's going. Systemd is NOT good!
PPS I do not have Windows at home (pun intended) 
#113 DIY » Preliminary notes on migration from Ubuntu 18.04 to Beowulf » 2020-04-24 08:12:51
- swanson
- Replies: 2
I've just recently migrated a machine from Ubuntu Mate 18.04 to Devuan Beowulf Xfce. It was quite a challange but very rewarding indeed. I now have a fully functional Devuan Beowulf Xfce install running with threaded network, Samba and more.
I'd like to put together a small guide for this, since there hopefully are more Ubuntu users that might want to do this. (I have no previous experience with Debian at all, but with Ubuntu since 2007. And Arch for a while)
But initially I have some thoughts about the information I gathered.
I mainly tried to follow two sources, here:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … e-to-ascii
and here:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2796
Both those two sources start from a Debian install, not Ubuntu, which is of course as it should be. But it might give some problems along the way. On the one hand, as an Ubuntu user, you're used to the structure of repos and sources.list, and apt/aptitude/synaptic. On the other hand, Debian differs on some points like; it seems that apt can do different things on Debian vs Ubuntu, and definitely that the Debian repos you might have from the start differs from the Ubuntu repos you have (it's a given of course).
Thoughts about the guide Migrate to ASCII (link above):
If you are an Ubuntu 18.04 user, which should be fairly common since it's LTS, there are big differences compared to a Debian Jessie or Stretch install. The init system for one, and the contents of the repos for another. So some commands are not possible like update-rc.d and I don't think you can install sysvinit-core from the Ubuntu repos anymore. I got stuck on installing the keyring, which was a bummer. It was this command:
"apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated"that just didn't work. As I remember the Ubuntu version of apt didn't recognize "--allow-unauthenticated".
So then I found the second thread here on this forum (link above) and could download the keyring deb-file and install it. That was the key and I could continue as outlaid in the thread. Pretty much anyway.
At the start I made sure I had Xfce installed and running. I also made sure I had the package ifupdown installed. I kept lightdm, since it has a good history with Xfce. Then I edited sources.list and entered the Beowulf repo "main" only. And the process started. There were several "aptitude -f install" quite a few in fact. Very fun and challenging actually!
Based on my experience migrating from 18.04 to Beowulf I've started to form a small newbie guide in theory, as a work in progress. It would start something like this (just an outline/synopsis):
* Backup all your data
* Uninstall ALL unnecessary apps and librarys. And then some. You can reinstall them later.
* Install Wicd and ifupdown. (possibly resolvconf?)
* Edit sources.list
* update
* upgrade - aptitude safe-upgrade is a good start.
* Read the screen messages and be prepared with coffee or beer
Any thoughts or comments? Please fell free to add or subtract.
I'm concerned about the release of Ubuntu 20.04. There's only talk about icons, themes and wallpapers. No debate about the underlying structure of systemd. During the years I've seen systemd encompassing more and more of the system and I don't like it at all.
How do you think a nice migration guide from Ubuntu to Devuan should be?
#114 Re: DIY » Migration from debian buster to devuan beowulf can work » 2020-04-23 09:09:41
Finally complete migration! After some tinkering with dependencies, mostly due to some packages being newer in the the old Ubuntu install than in Beowulf. It was for example gcc-8-base, gstreamer-bad and -good. But "sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-all" install xxxxxx-package" solved some of it and aptitude full-upgrade several times. aptitude is very good at suggesting solutions for package conflicts.
All good!
#115 Re: DIY » Migration from debian buster to devuan beowulf can work » 2020-04-23 05:00:13
@golinux: Might be a good idea to add that bit about downloading the keyring deb-file and doing "dpkg -i". I fooled around quite a bit with that and it took some time before I followed this thread. Seems that "apt" have some differences between Ubuntu and Debian, or that Debian already have some files installed that Ubuntu does not, and that it might be a tad easier to migrate from Debian than from Ubuntu. Or it might be just me......
PS. I'm glad to avoid Ubuntu 20.04 too. There's no debate about systemd, almost no debate about snap and so on. There's only concern about icons, themes and superficial stuff with the release of 20.04.
#116 Re: DIY » Migration from debian buster to devuan beowulf can work » 2020-04-22 21:04:09
@swanson . . . You might also want to have a look at the documentation on the beta website in case you have need to do a similar migration.
Yes, I saw that first and tried to follow it but got stuck on installing the devuan keyring. It was not until this thread suggested to download the keyring as a deb-file and then installing it, that I could continue. So I followed this thread instead.
It's gone quite ok and I've migrated some more packages now. Still some to go but the remaining packages seem non-essential for booting and logging in. So long as you can boot and log in to a console most things can be fixed. But I log in to Beowulf Xfce 4.12 right now, so it's ok. A good feeling!
#117 Re: DIY » Migration from debian buster to devuan beowulf can work » 2020-04-22 20:11:49
I've also followed these instructions above. But I migrated from Ubuntu Mate 18.04 to Beowulf. It was a mess but fun! How nice to run /etc/init.d/networking again!
Some of the hitches were with Elogind, which wouldn't configure during install but after uninstalling systemd it went ok. And a couple of others like avahi.
I couldn't have done it wihtout this thread and the app aptitude. So far I've just done aptitude safe-upgrade since aptitude full-upgrade had way too many conflicts. And I've also just enabled the repo beowulf main yet. But I will continue....
So you can migrate from Ubuntu to Devuan too!
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