You should start new topics on appropriate sections for technical matters so other people can locate questions and answers easier as a reference.  If you do a search for D1h chances are that on an off-topic with getting to know you as a title there will not be any relevant information.

Otherwise poor golinux has to go around all day cutting and pasting posts to threads.

Welcome to dev1

Back in the day there was a separation between fake devs and those than can move a PDP11 up the steps!

Harrr haarr haaarr haaar!!!!!

There is jessie, ascii, ceres, AND experimental, there is no such thing as ascii experimental.
You must have meant devuan experimental.

One at a time didn't work, they had to be installed together as a pair, but worked.

apt search eudev
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Full Text Search... Done
eudev/testing,now 3.2.2-9 amd64 [installed]
  /dev/ and hotplug management daemon

eudev-dbgsym/testing 3.2.2-9 amd64
  Debug symbols for eudev

libeudev-dev/testing 3.2.2-9 amd64
  libeudev development files

libeudev1/testing,now 3.2.2-9 amd64 [installed]
  libeudev shared library

libeudev1-dbgsym/testing 3.2.2-9 amd64
  Debug symbols for libeudev1

libudev-dev/testing 1:3.2.2+devuan2.10 amd64
  Transitional package for libeudev-dev

libudev1/now 220:3.2.2-devuan2.3 amd64 [installed,local]
  libudev shared library

udev/testing 1:3.2.2+devuan2.10 amd64 [residual-config]
  Transitional package for eudev

apt search openrc
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
openrc/testing,now 0.23-1+b1 amd64 [installed]
  dependency based service manager (runlevel change mechanism)

Like!

I'll top this for doing the same at -20 without being cold .....  inside a dodge van (3sp on the column). 
+2' to polish the points with paper and polishing paste.

Then systemd came and messed it all up

I had been driven in a Ro-80/NSU as a teen, I drove RX2-3-4-7, never an 8, and fixed and ridden an RE5 Suzuki.  I liked the water-buffalo much better.  Interesting bad-expensive idea, wankels were. 

My first encounter with computers was in 82 programming Cincinnati CNC- lathes and mills, then in school we punched stacks of cards.  RadioShack still didn't offer a programmable calculator then.  I remember trs80 but I think that was years later.

I like music but still prefer analog and tubes, but can't say the same with visual technology although I use to like photography back when it was an art to measure light correctly and play with it. 

I admit ignorance on the issue cynwulf brings up, I am among those who ignorantly fell for the anti-flash and the term html5 sold as a good thing as all html things are.

Dumb question:  Is it slower to download and start watching an mpeg/mp4 file, while it is downloading, than flash/html5 videos?  Is it less "safe" to do so?  Or is it more anonymous to do so?

The internet use to be nice up until the Gore/Clinton information superhighway coup took place and handed out the world's finest information sharing tool to the supernational oligopoly cartel so they can monitor and control the masses globally.  Google is just the tip of the iceberg or the straw that broke the camel's back.

Peace

Back in the early 70s if you had the world's fastest motorcycle, a Honda 750, you could adjust all 8 valves in a jiffy with 3 tools.  When twin cam 16v came out mechanics hated them, but they had twice the power.  Now it takes a genius and a day's work to do the same with a huge toolbox.

I have a pc which is about two times faster than my older one.  In most cases I can't tell the difference, but give them both something extensive to compile and it shows.

When I made isos out of two otherwise identical devuans, a 32b and a 64b, they were virtually identical in size.  Still they are different fruits.

I am just thankful that there is support for 32b systems even though they are not really produced for more than a decade.  Most smaller distributions have dropped 32bit and not many have complained about it.

Apart from occasional trolls pretending Devuan is bad and vanishing without a 2nd person ever reporting the same problem, Devuan has been so stable that DAYS go by without a single message on this whole board.  Tell me if there is ONE other distribution the same thing ever happens for more than 24hrs.  If ascii was stable, as it has been for me for more than 5 months now, same thing would be equally described.

One complaint about Devuan, not much ever happens, boring, uneventful, unexciting.
Yesterday I was updating/upgrading an old debian installation I had done 2 years ago and had not been updated for 2 months.  The user, relatively novice, has been using ascii instead for a while.  Debian broke its x half way through the upgrade.  I had to reboot manually and go to console and do dpkg --configure -recover ... (or whatever it is that resumes the upgrade) to get the system back.  I hadn't seen this ever before, losing the desktop half-way through an upgrade.  Needless to say the owner told me to just delete it as Debian is no longer used.  I convinced her otherwise as you never know when you will need a 2nd compatible system to chroot to the other one.  I agree, to save you some bandwidth, leaving a rolling distribution unupdated for months is not a good idea.  On this particular case, of a user not feeling confident to try apt update apt upgrade, Devuan hasn't had a problem "once".

Trolls please don't even think about pretending of having a problem.
People can tell, you know!

On one installation I fiddling with ob---tor -p results into a menu while ob....tor -p -i breaks it?
Any ideas what it might be?  Where does ob-gen pick up icons from?

Meaning:  That if you have 2+ ethernet devices, the one day one is 0 the next day it is 1 and vice versa making your network configuration a mess, while long-named uids will be consistent??

Here read this, because even though what Ralph says is correct when your grub will be refreshed to accomodate a kernle change, an addition to a kernel, or to pick up a new installation, the net.ifnames=0 subcommand from the linux line will be removed.

https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/117

If you do this small change from that point on network interface names will remain as eth0 wlan0 etc.  It works on all linux installations I have tried.