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is hk the person giving this conference?
Get your decentralized project some EU funding
@aitor . . . it appears so. "hellekin (how)" is a sig he uses. In fact, on the "Team" page of the website his description is:
Hellekin O’Wolf :: editor, webmaster and book sprinter
I have lost track of what he is working on.
Yes. Although I used setnet in devuan jessie, I didn't mention it because I can't remember whether it depended on ifupdown. On the other hand, I can't find the packages in chimaera.
IIRC it was never in the repos. Only in Katolaz' workspace.
There is also KatolaZ' setnet which I understand works quite well too.
I can't use chromium in firejail either. Google has sabotaged disabling of certain "features". One of the best minds on the Devuan team, hasn't found a way to do it either. Perhaps someone else has the magic incantation . . .
Google +1. User privacy 0. This shouldn't come as a surprise . . .
We knew it as the "Purpy Book". ![]()
Probably . . . I'm not seeing it in the package list
That being said . . . you might possibly find other systemd files present in Devuan. This post explains why.
Thanks for posting again. Chances of migration success are best with a vanilla install. I think there is something to that effect in the notes. (Too tired to check atm.)
See you tomorrow.
golinux wrote:@auanta . . . perhaps you would like to collect all the little fixes you are discovering and publish them in md on our git? Or the forum?
I'll put them in git!
Great! Would be very useful for those who are just arriving. All the info is documented *somewhere* but having it in one place would be quite handy!
@auanta . . . perhaps you would like to collect all the little fixes you are discovering and publish them in md on our git? Or the forum?
This is a post-lock addition to hopefully clarify some of the confused assumptions above . . .
Let's start with the first iteration of devuan.org in the current layout that Hellekin and I put together for our first public release of Devuan Jessie 1.0 Beta. Hopefully, it will put the issues brought up above into historical perspective. Have a look here:
http://web.archive.org/web/201606041517 … evuan.org/
At that time I didn't even know what git was! I was entirely concerned with the content, colors and layout of the site. Hellekin dealt with the technical complexities of making it happen. It was quite a partnership! You can see that all the navigation links were dumped on the index page. Also note that dev1fanboy's docs were in a format detached from the website proper and sourced from his git repo. This is the historical reason that remains of dev1fanboy's "wiki" are present in the documentation section. It was not some over-arching structural decision for the www workflow which has ALWAYS been from www BETA to LIVE or MASTER or whatever it was called at the time.
When Hellekin moved on, I took over www and eventually all public-facing web content went through me, even dev1fanboy's and fsmithred's and the docs that rrq and I crafted for the install disk(s). I had a LOT of catching up to do but eventually managed to gain enough git pointy-clicky proficiency to accomplish all the public-facing upgrades to ascii and beowulf documentation as needed.
I also redesigned the site over the years to have a proper nav bar and trimmed content down to the minimal needed. Mostly it consisted of rearranging/compacting/rewriting and eliminating redundancies of information already available. Please do take a tour on web.archive.org to see how the site morphed over the years.
Then I just burned out - partly due to age; partly due to the enormous workload - and Xenguy stepped up to take over www beginning with Chimaera (though I still provided the matching default colors).
I should have thought to write this brief history of www earlier but now that the issue came up, I finally mustered the focus to put things into historical perspective. I do hope that it helps to clarify how we got to where we are.
Any questions? Start a new thread.
Reminder: This is a technical forum. Not group therapy.
Recent user feedback prompted some revisions to the Migrate from Debian Bullseye to Chimaera page on devuan.org.
In addition to classic, hands-on manual instructions there are now 2 more prominently highlighted scripts to partially automate the process.
Please review, test if possible and provide constructive feedback if warranted.
Not included on the revised www page but worth a mention here for those who use ansible is jaromil's debian-to-devuan-ansible-role.yaml for the non-interactive migration of Debian 11 "Bullseye" to Devuan 4 "Chimaera".
Thanks for the update!
There's always the wayback archive
I fixed it. It was missing the final "l" in the html. Might have been just htm at the time. I fixed aitor's link and it works now. Takes me back almost 10 years when the debate was raging . . .
Yes, that was it but sadly, that link died years ago.
It was reposted on a site but I can't remember the name atm. It might no longer exist . . .
I bumped into this the other day and found it to be the best and most level-headed criticism of systemd I've yet seen:
http://landley.net/notes-2014.html#23-04-2014
It's worth reading.
There were other excellent critiques written at the time. I remember one by Jude Nelson in particular but it all fell on deaf ears. The Debian GR vote put the nail in the coffin of init diversity in Debian. For those of you who weren't here to live through it, the following analyses are "required reading":
Combatting revisionist history by dasein on the Debian forum
Open letter to the Linux World by Christoper Barry on the LKML.
Happy to hear you're up and running and that you think it is "beautiful". The screen resolution stuff may have to do with the fact that the minimal live was designed for visually impaired access. Yeah, hardware can bite sometimes. ![]()
I think this topic has run its course . . . ![]()
golinux wrote:@tomasz . . . What we choose with each intentional action sets the course of our life. Easy to shoot oneself in the foot so best to choose wisely . . .
Hard to disagree. But the filter situation also means that if I have something to share with you, it will be published on Debian's Salsa.
Some things are not meant to be . . . ![]()
golinux wrote:It might boot UEFI though.
couldn't resist . . .
I don't get it . . .
I was poking at your typo.
@tomasz . . . What we choose with each intentional action sets the course of our life. Easy to shoot oneself in the foot so best to choose wisely . . .
@auanta . . . Have you actually looked at the website? The Explore page in the navbar lists all the documentation included in the website and some links point to resources elsewhere.
There is also a lot of practical documentation on this very forum as well as the DNG mail list.