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Ahh, another thought just struck me, forgive me as i'm still a novice at this, but the Daedalus livedcd is a UEFI enabled version, I couldn't even install it on my machine as I use legacy bios and MBR, I could boot the liveCD just fine, but could not install it on my machine.
That's why I made the Mate-mini without that option, so it could be installed on legacy machines.
Possibly yours won't boot that as it's old and also uses MBR/BIOS?
Might try the mini I just made and see if that works if nothing else.
Shame Refracta-to-usb isn't still around, or is it somewhere? That's what i've been using since Devuan 1, it'll do whatever you want it to as long as you can figure out how to ask it right, lol.
I see there's Mintstick in the repo, have never tried it though.
DD works, saw a little wrapper shell for it the other day that uses some sanity-checks so you don't screw yourself, can't remember where it was.
@ceesians true, and there's also that option at the top of the file menu. I was just using that one as it's the easiest to test, since it doesn't require other programs and scripts to work, just lxterminal.
There's a half a dozen others I use and that's what i'm concerned about, resize image, rotate image, edit file as root, open folder as root, set image as wallpaper, view exif data etc.
Basically i'm reproducing the functionality you can get in Caja file manager in MATE by installing the extras from the repo, I really missed that one-click convenience when I started using Openbox and PcmanFM.
I tried that desktop file and it does create the option to 'open terminal here' but it doesn't work. Message is "invalid desktop entry file". when I try to execute it.
Well that's progress at least, it's not even showing up for me. Wonder if there's some conflict since i'm also using MATE on that partition?
Sigh, lots of stuff to do, I really thought this was going to be easier than last time, lol. Right now Synaptic won't even open from the menu when i'm in the Openbox session.
Hurray pkexec, so glad they dumped gksu, because who would want a simple program that actually worked when you can have a mountain of crappy gnome policy s**t that doesn't work half the time on your machine?
Okay, solved the krita thing at least effectively though I still don't know how it happened, logged into root account and it was not happening and there was a message that there were no "templates" installed.
Logged back in to user account and sure enough in the Templates folder there it was, krita appimage. And I was today years old when I learned you could put stuff in Templates and have it appear in context-menus, lol.
But I never put it there or downloaded any krita appimages, so i'm stumped how it got there.
@fsmithred, when you have moment can I ask a big favor?
Drop the below extension in /home/(user)/.local/file-manager/actions/ , then you have to close pcmanfm, then re-open, and see if you now have an option to open terminal there?
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Action
Name=Open Terminal Here
Comment=Open terminal in the current folder
Icon=lxterminal
Profiles=on_folder;
[X-Action-Profile on_folder]
Exec=lxterminal --working-directory=%f
MimeTypes=inode/directory;My apologies, been a while since I did this stuff and I should have tested more before posting.
This weird abomination now occurs across all file managers in this install, pcmanfm, pcmanfmqt, and also Caja when i'm running a MATE session.
I don't know when it happened, or whether it was in some update I did, or third party stuff I installed, or maybe one of the appimages i've been trying.
But it obviously stuck something in the system files somewhere that makes it occur in all file-managers. Kinda freaking me out.
Newer pcmanfm gtk version will still just not use right-click extensions, apparently this started happening off and on about 4-5 years ago, about the time they started working with the qt version. It's really aggravating me because in the qt version they seem to want to work at least, they show up in the context-menu at least when you right-click.
Seriously considering using an older version that actually works properly and just pinning it.
So here's a doozy I haven't seen before, started working on Vuu-do 2 in earnest last night, working for now from my main everyday Daedalus install just to test, installed Openbox, Tint2, Pcmanfm and some other Openbox-specific stuff, logged out and logged back in to new openbox session.
Everything was actually going along swimmingly and I was getting excited, but then two things, one annoying, one weird as can be. Both in Pcmanfm, current version in Daedalus repo 1.3.2
1. No user added right-click context menu options work at all, doesn't matter what you do. The ones that it came with all work though, then next one though doesn't seem OEM to Pcmanfm...
2. This is a doozy, like every file manager i've ever used, pcmanfm when you click on open space in a folder offers you the "create new" option which normally has two choices : create new folder or empty file..only here there's a third, it offers to create a new "krita-5.2.3-x8664" for ya.
Curiousity got the better of me, so I clicked it, and instantaneously it somehow created a 350 mb appimage of krita-5.2.3 for me, and I do mean instantly, like there were local files on it, but I can't find any.
Have searched through about half the pcmanfm source code on github, nothing yet, will finish searching and then try checking libfm source code later.
Does ANYONE have the slightest idea about this stuff? How in the world does something like this make it into the program and .deb package?
I have a slight suspicion the two problems might be related, but not sure yet.
Anybody got a clean install of pcmanfm 1.3.2 that doesn't do these things?
I had never even heard of krita prior to this, never downloaded it.
^^^^The above reply by blackhole is how I have always done offline installs of .deb packages myself. Just got to check that list of depends and make sure you got 'em all, if so, this is by far the fastest way to install.
Got to try it last night (Daedalus), worked great as always!
One question, in Refractasnapshot.conf, both options to use xz were commented out, I uncommented the lower one and used that as that is what I always used in Vuu-do, but if I had left both commented out what would it have used for compression?
Surely that is sarcasm and not a serious question . . .
In point of fact, it's going on and is an epidemic, I have seen multiple instances of people with IT/software/coding jobs bragging online about how they don't really have to work anymore, they get chatgpt or others to spit out the code for them, they check functionality and for bugs real quick, then commit. And get paid a lot of money for doing it.
Can chatgpt or elon's grok write me one?
Hmmm...an artificially intelligent machine, writing code for other machines...pretty sure i've seen this movie.
Spoiler: It doesn't end well.
@ks Nice! My everyday machine since 2014 is a 2010 model Compaq laptop with a little dual-core APU, one of the hinges is broke, and the screen did some weird crap a while back like it's trying to become de-laminated from it's backing, so it turns the whole screen into nothing but weird colors, so I literally have to keep a spring clamp from my shop on it at all times so I can view the screen, lol. It came with 2 gigs of ram though, and I upped that to 4, so we're still rollin' and squashing up new stuff...it does take it's sweet time though.
Wife keeps telling me we can afford a new one, but i'm not giving this thing up, too much sentimental value, and it's been a complete workhorse.
Got a couple of desktops I built circa 2005 and 2008 that still work, lol dual-booting windoze xp and Devuan 1 with my first vuu-do experiments back in 2016-2017.
Ahh the beauty of Linux and not having to buy a new machine every 3 years!
UPDATE: New iso uploaded 12/06/24 which includes grub-pc for legacy-BIOS systems.
Hello friends, just did another small project i've been meaning to do for a while, Devuan-mate-mini, here is the readme for it:
This is not an official Devuan release, nor a Vuu-do release. This is a user re-spin of Devuan Daedalus, updated completely as of 12/06/2024 with the Mate desktop environment. This is a liveCD and includes the Refracta-installer for fast simple install. This is not uefi-enabled.
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Changes in su
- The behavior of su has changed. Use 'su -' to get root's path or use
the full path to commands if you use only 'su'.
- There are several ways to get the old behavior. The easiest is to
edit /etc/default/su to add the line:ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes
(greenjeans: I tested the above solution and it works, just need to create the file "su" in /etc/default/ as it doesn't have one by default)OS-prober is disabled by default when you install grub, explained in this bit from /usr/share/grub/default/grub:
# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=trueThis is default as-delivered and good policy to protect those who need it, but if you'd like to change that you can do it anytime including on the live session before you install if so desired. Edit /etc/default/grub and /usr/share/grub/default/grub as root and change the true to false. The changes will persist into the installed system and it will run os-prober during install and your other installs will be recognized. If you do this post install, make sure and run update-grub afterwards.
If you are running a GPT/EFI system, you should be able to boot the LiveDVD/USB, open and reload synaptic, install grub-efi-amd64 while in live session (thus un-installing grub-pc) and the changes will persist to the install and you'll have EFI grub, and if you've changed the above grub settings in that same live-session it will run os-prober when you install. Theoretically anyway, would love if someone would test this and report results over on dev1galaxy.org.
If you have an EFI system already with other OS'es on other partitions and have grub installed already and don't need a bootloader, just install it without installing the bootloader, then boot into your partition that controls grub and run update-grub.
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In all respects it is identical to current Devuan, I have not "vuu-do-fied" it, it contains all original files, docs, translations, help files, original configs, artwork etc. with the following exceptions:This is a "mini", it contains no browser, office or multimedia programs whatsoever, just the infrastructure for you to build on and configure as you see fit. There are no release notes or manual as this is stock Devuan and ample documentation is available on their site and forum.
Some packages have been added for convenience, these are:
Brasero - CD/DVD burning
Mozo - simple mate menu editor
Mate-tweak - handy utility, gets rid of pesky desktop icons if you so desire
Parcellite - clipboard manager
NTPsec - keeps time correct
Caja file manger extensions - very handy stuff, resize-rotate images, open terminal here, edit/open as root etc.Slight mods to config:
File-manager configged to open files with single-click and include delete command that bypasses trash - this made my work go much faster.
Altered sources.list as main repo has been having some issues, changed to what's been working for me and what I used to build this iso.
Set lightdm.conf to autologin the user on the liveDVD for convenience.Username/passwords for LiveDVD:
guest = guest
root = root
2005, that would be awesome! But I think I have some to work on that are even older, lol, tagging this thread for interest, hope you get it working!
Yep, the man pages rock. I would add that at the bottom of many of them, there is a line that says "See also (various other man pages). And it is very worthwhile to do so.
I have found solutions by perusing and cross-referencing various man pages, that I could not find anywhere on the internet.
The world is not going to end any time soon my friends, take heart.
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and tho’
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
@stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn
The rabbit hole goes even deeper, but there's some sunlight peaking through. You should check out Joe Rogan's interview with Marc Andreesen.
I haven't watched it, just read some of the transcripted highlights, apparently he went to a meeting with other tech billionaires at the White House about AI, where it was gleefully explained to him that their plan was to seize control of the several major companies working on AI, completely federalize them and after that the government would have sole control over AI in the US, and that they would make laws forbidding any other companies or individuals from working on their own AI.
Interesting times. To quote Galadriel:
"The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all."
But she also said:
"Yet hope remains while the Company is true."
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Been some issues with dev.devuan.org for a while now, couple of other threads on here about it.
Here's what's working for me currently in sources.list:
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main
deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main Huh, well I learn new things all the time, but have never seen a laptop myself that didn't have a wi-fi key. On the oldest one I have it's literally a small switch on the laptop body.
As I said, on 2 of 3 laptops we have, it's the F12 key, below the little f12 designation there's a little symbol of an antenna, and the key has an embedded LED that lights up white when wi-fi is on, and orange when it is not. And whatever you chose in the last session persists to the next.
I have the last net install iso downloaded (arrgh at debian installer), was thinking about installing, updating, then rolling up a current hybrid iso.
Was thinking it might be helpful for the average Devuan user, an easy way to do some testing and report back.
If using a liveCD that uses Refracta installer, you can boot up the LiveCD and while running, if you make changes to the system in live session, then install from that session, the changes persist to the installed system.
I have not tried un-installing full programs while in a live session, but i'm assuming that might persist as well.
This is why I have notes in Vuu-do that says specifically to re-boot after taking the iso for a test drive, as those changes persist and you won't have a perfectly clean install.
Like if you open up Firefox while in a live session, the .mozilla folder will be created and if you then install from that live session it will be there when you boot into the installed system
It's worth a try, boot up liveCD, open Synaptic and uninstall whatever you want, then immediately install system to your computer.
Edit: This is the way my older versions of Refracta-installer work, don't know if this behavior was changed in later versions, fsmithred could tell you if it still works that way.
On my laptop, there is a switch to turn wi-fi on and off (f12), once turned off it persists through re-boots, and ifconfig confirms that it indeed disabled.
If you right click on the Network Manager icon in the tray, there is an option to enable wi-fi if not running, and disable if running.
Left-clicking that icon confirms also that wi-fi is disabled.
This all persists through re-boots, easy-peasy. Hope this helps!
Hello friends, just uploaded new isos, both a minimal and a maximal version. This is based on the original 1.07 I finished in early 2018, based on Devuan 1 (jessie) and Miyolinux.
There is a metric ton of bug fixes, performance tweaks, and just general cleanup and polishing, plus being updated to all the newest packages in the archive repo, some 300 in all plus a new kernel. In addition I added an appimage of the latest Firefox ESR (128) to the iso and also a database app. The minimal version also now includes printer and scanner support like the maximal.
I have changed sources.list to the archive repo, and you can add more software from there if you like.
For minimal: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … 4-minimal/
For maximal: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … imal/1.09/
The release notes have been updated, and on sourceforge they are the "readme.txt" files that are also displayed at the bottom of the download pages. More info in my original 1.07 thread, and also at https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/
I did not update the 32 bit version, it's from 2017, and lacks a LOT...I may mess with it at some point, but in any case leaving it up there for now for historical reasons.
Again, it must be said, this is a project re-spin, not a distro
And as always, big thanks to Devuan, Miyo, and fsmithred for making it all possible!
~greenjeans