No . . . the technology is questionable. Always has been. The road it is going down is not progress.  It is human hubris. I have been watching carefully since the mid-90s and can find nothing there that I would knowingly touch . . .

That is a matter of perspective.

There can be no "offense" when none is taken . . . Internal reaction to external stimuli is a CHOICE. Humans are notoriously poor at understanding this which is why our species is hopelessly mired in ignorance and conflict.

Yes, the Devuan "pond" has the most amazing fish swimming in it. On this we can agree.

But even if the internet had not taken the predictable turn that it has, there would be similar problems to distress us. Again, it is a CHOICE how to respond to them. Distress is not useful. Action is. Those of us here have made a choice and doing a pretty good job of it . . . 

Please stop wasting Devuan resources on your therapy.

I prefer not to be a monkey behaving for the machine 24/7 . . . I would rather unplug . . .

I seem to be more of a fossil than you. I do not have a working cell phone. Only one which has never had a working account for 911 emergency use only . . .

The web is deranged because it magnifies the reality that our species is deranged with greed, hatred and delusion.  I vote for extinction . . .

I surrender to the chaos of the universe and the human mind . . . 

If you had used the netinstall iso and chosen the "expert install" option you would have had more control of what was installed. The netinstall uses a slightly modified version of the Debian installer. The "live" iso uses the "refractainstaller" which only copies the files of a default Devuan desktop installation to your installation media.

You can read descriptions of the available Devuan installation media here.

Official Devuan policy from https://www.devuan.org/os/install:

Thanks jobbautista9!

@recklessswing . . . There are 2 scripts as well as manual instructions on how to migrate from Bullseye to Chimaera on our install page. Perhaps something in those methods will be useful to you.

Happy to hear that you got everything sorted. 

Now that you've got the BB code straightened out, feel free to edit your first post for readability.

Well, I have never used uefi so tried to explain something I don't understand that well so not surprising.

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I really appreciate that you gave it a spin.

Show us the code and maybe we'd use it!!!

Different strokes for different folks. It can be quite useful to test a distribution live before going through the hassle of installing.  The installaion just copies files; no downloading needed unless you request it. Then with refractasnapshot you can create a live iso of your running installed system which is very handy for backup.

Are you sure that pulseaudio is installed? I have been running Devuan since 2015 and pulseaudio has never been installed. apulse gets the job done quite nicely. IIRC that is the default even for the installer isos. I don't need networkmanager because I am always wired and with a window manager, I'm pretty sure you can get rid of all the polkit stuff . . . All of that objectionable stuff would be installed with the default desktop even using the installer iso so your complaints are a bit of a thud . . ..