I surrender to the chaos of the universe and the human mind . . . 

If you had used the netinstall iso and chosen the "expert install" option you would have had more control of what was installed. The netinstall uses a slightly modified version of the Debian installer. The "live" iso uses the "refractainstaller" which only copies the files of a default Devuan desktop installation to your installation media.

You can read descriptions of the available Devuan installation media here.

Official Devuan policy from https://www.devuan.org/os/install:

Thanks jobbautista9!

@recklessswing . . . There are 2 scripts as well as manual instructions on how to migrate from Bullseye to Chimaera on our install page. Perhaps something in those methods will be useful to you.

Happy to hear that you got everything sorted. 

Now that you've got the BB code straightened out, feel free to edit your first post for readability.

Well, I have never used uefi so tried to explain something I don't understand that well so not surprising.

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I really appreciate that you gave it a spin.

Show us the code and maybe we'd use it!!!

Different strokes for different folks. It can be quite useful to test a distribution live before going through the hassle of installing.  The installaion just copies files; no downloading needed unless you request it. Then with refractasnapshot you can create a live iso of your running installed system which is very handy for backup.

Are you sure that pulseaudio is installed? I have been running Devuan since 2015 and pulseaudio has never been installed. apulse gets the job done quite nicely. IIRC that is the default even for the installer isos. I don't need networkmanager because I am always wired and with a window manager, I'm pretty sure you can get rid of all the polkit stuff . . . All of that objectionable stuff would be installed with the default desktop even using the installer iso so your complaints are a bit of a thud . . ..

And you have that choice installing with either the netinstall or the mini-iso. Even CD 1 of the 4 CD set should get you a very minimal install.

Yeah . . . I may split it off a bit later . . .

Refracta has been around for AGES. Here's one of the first posts brought up in a search from 2009-05-07 on FDN.

Refracta has been the default live installer for Devuan since jessie.

Refracta snapshot and installer are invaluable tools for sooo many users.  Have you ever actually tried it?

refracta.org has been up for a long time and many derivatives of various Linux distros use it. I use refractasnapshot to create a backup image in case things go south.

My current installation is based on the refracta version of chimaera (no install recommends and other nice defaults). Yeah, I'm a fan . . .

@tux . . . Thanks for the edit. Do you have apulse installed? Needed when pulseaudio is removed. Not sure of the details.

Default in Devuan has been not to merge but Debian may close the door to the freedom to choose.

More GTK3 more intractable CSD more skinny bars It's turning into a less usable and fuglier cluster**** . . . IMO of course . . .

Over a decade ago I once installed KDE 3. When the first animated, bouncing  icon popped up, I was so out of there. Even then it was bloated . . .