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#76 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] printer » 2025-12-13 15:14:16

Search on printer name and model cups PPD debian get the .PPD file you can find then in a browser URL entry bar type in then hit enter key http//:localhost:631 use the Administrator then Add printer option to add it through the CUPS web interface.

#77 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] ublockorigin » 2025-12-13 15:08:18

Go to about:addons in your firefox browser URL entry bar search on uBlock Origin then use the Add to Firefox button to add it, no clue on the icecat I have never used it.

#78 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] mirrors for Gnuinos » 2025-12-13 14:55:26

But the 1st question is still unsolved.
I can´t connect to the internet.
I have to enter that command:  sudo dhclient eth0
after that I can use the internet.

Try the below in the file /etc/network/interfaces it tells the system to use the eth0 with dhcp to get the network connection.

oot@9600k:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The first card in the system added for devuan method of networking

auto eth0
    allow-hotplug eth0
    iface eth0 inet dhcp

#79 Re: ARM Builds » excalibur image for original rpi? » 2025-12-12 18:35:02

so what to do to get a real build ?
I need on for my rpi4, 4GB .

Install the Debian Trixie image from their site, upgrading to latest packages as they are completely out of date. Then you follow the instructions to convert to Devuan from here.

https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … libur.html

#80 Re: ARM Builds » raspberry pi3 chimaera install "from scratch" » 2025-12-12 18:30:34

The only drawback device tree (config.txt) doesn't seem to work e.g. gpu_mem=16, dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt etc. Customized kernel needed or something?

I would think you need to be actually booting in device tree mode for that to work, not the EFI mode you used. It is one method or the other with these things.

#81 Re: ARM Builds » excalibur image for original rpi? » 2025-12-12 02:24:08

but I notice that the arm builds at arm-files.devuan.org/RaspberryPi Latest Builds don't include excalibur builds for the original rpi.

Those are not real builds anyways they are made with a script that creates images that are broken by default and do not allow the kernel to be upgraded like on a proper system. If you want to be able fully upgrade the system so that actually follows a normal Debian/Devuan process install then you need to install the Trixie using Debian images then convert it to Devuan like I did when I figured out the broken nature of them files.

#82 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] sources.list broken? » 2025-12-12 02:13:35

You might want to try a Debian install converted to Devuan. Those images you download do not allow upgrades of the kernel to the latest version they are broken frozen in time at the moment of creation. This is why I did it on my Pi4 that way after fighting with trying to get it upgraded and it constantly failing to do so. You are roughly 90 revisions behind the current
.158 available in the repositories.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw … ection=all

#84 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » tzinfo oddly misconfigured » 2025-12-03 20:27:55

it comes out backwards. UTC displays local time and local time displays UTC.

That is correct as the Central time zone in the US is a 6 hours offset from the UTC. So when it is just over 6AM in Central time it is just past 12PM in UTC. If it is just past 12PM when you ran this command local time then putting on my mind reader hat I will go with a dual boot machine with the Windows on it and not set to universal time so the clock is always messed up when it is used then Linux is booted again. Two choices for that scenario either set the Linux machine to always use local time or the Windows to use the Universal time then the clock will always be correct.

#85 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] Packages that do not appear in the Synaptic package manager » 2025-11-29 03:14:06

I did so, editing /etc/apt/sources.list with the command nano, adding the # symbol and a space to the description of cdrom. I saved and exited. Next, I updated, and the terminal output read “$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for juan:
Reading package lists... Done”

Well, I went back to the Synaptic package manager to look for ufw... and it was gone. So, with version 5 “Daedalus”, the same problem occurred again, with the only difference being that the ufw package was there initially, but I couldn't install it. So I reinstalled version 6 “Excalibur”, where the same difficulty persists.

Your problem is you are not setting up online repositories to get software from your description of after the editing of the source list to put # at the start of the cdrom line then the update showing you nothing shows this. Run this command in the excalibur.

El problema es que no estás configurando repositorios en línea para obtener el software de tu descripción. Después de editar la lista de fuentes, colocas # al principio de la línea del CD-ROM. La actualización muestra que no aparece esto. Ejecuta este comando en Excalibur.

mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list

Next copy this into the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources

A continuación, copie esto en el archivo /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources.

Creating the file as it will not exist.

Creando el archivo ya que no existirá.

## Devuan 6 excalibur
## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources

## Normal excalibur sources
Types: deb
#URIs: http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged
#URIs: http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged 
#URIs: https://tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net/devuan/merged/
Suites: excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates  excalibur-updates
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

## excalibur security sources
Types: deb
#URIs: http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged
#URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged
#URIs: https://tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net/devuan/merged/
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

Then

Entonces

apt update

You should see numerous lines pass by as it updates the package cache, and now you should be able to install software with apt.

Debería ver pasar numerosas líneas a medida que actualiza el caché del paquete, y ahora debería poder instalar software con apt.

Edit: Now I notice use sudo at the beginning of the commands.

Editar: Ahora noto que se usa sudo al comienzo de los comandos.

#86 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Running with disconnected SATA cables » 2025-11-29 02:58:47

Would any harm be done to SATA hard drives or their contents if run with their power cables connected but with the SATA data cables disconnected?  The question applies to both SSD and spinning rust drives.

This is because I want to install Windows

No harm at all it is the only I will ever install windows on a machine I use. Not that I do it often but when done I never give it the chance of messing up anything in the machine to be installed onto.

#87 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] Packages that do not appear in the Synaptic package manager » 2025-11-25 03:34:21

You have a seriously messed up sources configuration all those packages you mention are in the archives.

Tienes una configuración de fuentes muy desordenada, todos esos paquetes que mencionas están en los archivos.

zeus@9600k:~$ apt policy libc6-dev thunderbird mirage
libc6-dev:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.41-12
  Version table:
     2.41-12 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
thunderbird:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:140.5.0esr-1~deb13u1
  Version table:
     1:140.5.0esr-1~deb13u1 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-proposed-updates/main >
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-security/main amd64 Pa>
     1:140.4.0esr-1~deb13u1 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
     1:128.4.3esr-1~deb12u1 -1
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
mirage:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.11.2-1.1
  Version table:
     0.11.2-1.1 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages

Please show us the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources if using the newer style however you have it named. Here is mine I use with excalibur using the new style.

Muéstrenos el contenido de /etc/apt/sources.list o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources si usa el nuevo estilo, independientemente de cómo lo haya nombrado. Aquí está el mío que uso con Excalibur con el nuevo estilo.

zeus@9600k:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources
## Devuan 6 excalibur
## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources

## Normal excalibur sources
Types: deb
#URIs: http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged
#URIs: http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged 
Suites: excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates  excalibur-updates
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

## excalibur security sources
Types: deb
#URIs: http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged
#URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

#88 Re: Documentation » How to use the Init system? » 2025-11-24 15:07:28

Do I need to know about runlevels for daemons?
How to Start a service:
How to stop a service:
How to disable a service:
How to enable a service:

What is the correct procedure to follow before 'sudo apt remove <package>' that also has a service module?

The runlevels will be in the file that controls the daemon in the /etc/init.d/ directory,

sudo /etc/init.d/service start
sudo /etc/init.d/service stop
sudo update-rc.d service remove
sudo update-rc.d service defaults

Those would be the answers to your next four questions usually you can find the options used with /etc/init.d/service by reading the plain text file it is to see what is available in it. Most times there is a restart option and some of the time a force-reload that can be used as well.

Apt will shut down the service before/during removal as I remember it as never having to do anything special when I have done it, using the --purge option with it when removing will get rid of all of the configuration files installed by the package as well.

#89 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] Packages that do not appear in the Synaptic package manager » 2025-11-24 01:20:20

What did I do wrong? Why does libc6-dev break when installing the operating system? Why did these packages disappear from the Synaptic package manager if they were in Devuan 5 "Dadaelus"? How can I access these packages to install them?

I generally find the GUI package mangers are not the best for the task. The command line usually works the best. The first thing to do when having problems is use the policy command to see what is says about the packages.

Generalmente, considero que los administradores de paquetes de la interfaz gráfica no son los más adecuados para esta tarea. La línea de comandos suele ser la mejor opción. Lo primero que hay que hacer ante problemas es usar el comando de política para ver qué dice sobre los paquetes.

root@9600k:~# apt policy gufw gcalculator
gufw:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 24.04.0-3
  Version table:
     24.04.0-3 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
Notice: Unable to locate package gcalculator

There you can see the gufw is available to be installed while the gcalculator is nowhere to be found.  And a search on the package website shows it has never existed in Debian. Are you sure of the name of the package?

Allí puedes ver que gufw está disponible para su instalación, mientras que gcalculator no se encuentra. Una búsqueda en el sitio web del paquete muestra que nunca ha existido en Debian. ¿Estás seguro del nombre del paquete?

https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw … ection=all

The libc6-dev package it appears would install properly here.

Al parecer, el paquete libc6-dev se instalaría correctamente aquí.

root@9600k:~# apt install -s libc6-dev

Installing:                     
  libc6-dev

Installing dependencies:
  libc-dev-bin  libcrypt-dev  linux-libc-dev  manpages-dev  rpcsvc-proto

Suggested packages:
  libc-devtools  glibc-doc

Summary:
  Upgrading: 0, Installing: 6, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0
Inst libc-dev-bin (2.41-12 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Inst linux-libc-dev (6.12.57-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [all])
Inst libcrypt-dev (1:4.4.38-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Inst rpcsvc-proto (1.4.3-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Inst libc6-dev (2.41-12 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Inst manpages-dev (6.9.1-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [all])
Conf libc-dev-bin (2.41-12 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Conf linux-libc-dev (6.12.57-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [all])
Conf libcrypt-dev (1:4.4.38-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Conf rpcsvc-proto (1.4.3-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Conf libc6-dev (2.41-12 Devuan:6.0/stable [amd64])
Conf manpages-dev (6.9.1-1 Devuan:6.0/stable [all])

Perhaps a apt remove --purge libc6-dev to remove everything then an  apt install libc6-dev to see if the error can be reproduced and show here for us to try and help with it would be the idea. I have used a translator to give replies in Spanish for you.

Quizás una buena idea sería usar apt remove --purge libc6-dev para eliminar todo y luego apt install libc6-dev para ver si se puede reproducir el error y mostrarlo aquí para que podamos intentar solucionarlo. He usado un traductor para ofrecerte las respuestas en español.

#90 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur polkitd installation bug » 2025-11-22 22:53:04

I'm starting to realize more and more that Debian is no longer an independent community distro at all, not only is it full of Canonical (understandable) and IBM/Redhat Devs (less understandable), there are even Microsoft Employees involved with core packages of Debian...

This has been true for years now the project has been subverted by the corporate parasite controlled developers within it. Eventually it will be turned into a systemd only distribution by them. Good to see you get it sorted, I too had that piece of garbage package installed now no longer, thanks for digging into it.

#91 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur polkitd installation bug » 2025-11-22 14:26:17

The systemd-standalone-users is likewise nowhere to be found on my system the other has candicate but is not installed.

zeus@9600k:~$ apt policy opensysusers systemd-standalone-users
opensysusers:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.7.3-5
  Version table:
     0.7.3-5 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
N: Unable to locate package systemd-standalone-users

Both of the packages mentioned as having them as a dependency are installed without them.

zeus@9600k:~$ apt policy cron-daemon-common openssh-server
cron-daemon-common:
  Installed: 3.0pl1-197
  Candidate: 3.0pl1-197
  Version table:
 *** 3.0pl1-197 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
openssh-server:
  Installed: 1:10.0p1-7
  Candidate: 1:10.0p1-7
  Version table:
     1:10.2p1-2~bpo13+1 100
        100 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-backports/main amd64 Packages
 *** 1:10.0p1-7 990
        990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

#92 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur polkitd installation bug » 2025-11-22 04:37:18

"Why does Devuan prefer systemd-sysusers to create system users during installation rather than adduser?"

It is nowhere to be found on my Excalibur  install or even there to be installed.

root@9600k:~# apt policy systemd-sysusers
systemd-sysusers:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="6"
VERSION="6 (excalibur)"
VERSION_CODENAME="excalibur"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"

I would check your policy output and perhaps your sources to figure out where you got it from.

root@9600k:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources 
## Devuan 6 excalibur
## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources

## Normal excalibur sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged 
Suites: excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates  excalibur-updates
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

## excalibur security sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

#93 Re: DIY » What is the equivalent of "mock" on Devuan? » 2025-11-16 01:25:58

Yeah they will get around to removing some time in the next decade or so maybe. And you are correct it is a mess of confusing processes they use.

#94 Re: DIY » What is the equivalent of "mock" on Devuan? » 2025-11-15 18:30:57

Go to the source, the first hit on a search "building debian packages" brings up the wiki article on doing it. The long and short of it is they build them in clean virtual machines it is a rather convoluted process, good luck with it.

https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian

#95 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Power usage of SSDs » 2025-11-14 17:16:54

o that power calculation doesn't seem to work out for these.

SSD 5v * 1.7a = 8.5w

HDD 5v * .68a = 3.4w, 12v * .55a = 6.6w,  for a total of 3.4w + 6.6w = 11w, it uses both them voltages at the same time internally.

Seems to me the HDD uses more power, then again I know how to do the math.

#96 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Power usage of SSDs » 2025-11-14 04:11:30

SSDs and it says they can draw 1.7 amps!? The spinning drives I have are rated .48 to .55 amps.

What is the voltage they are using with that amperage? If the SSD is using 5v and the HDD is using 12v then the power consumed is well over four times as much at the same amperage. When you double the voltage you quadruple the power drawn, it is a squared function. Actually my quick calculation is 5.76 times as much for equal amps drawn from 12v vs 5v as it is 2.4 times the voltage. A SSD is always drawing power too you will see the idle rating there somewhere too. You would need to determine the amount of each power voltage the drives use and the amps at those voltages to figure it out the total watts. The old amps x volts =  watts consumed formula comes into play to determine that.

zeus@9600k:~$ calc 2.4^2
5.76

#97 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Migrated Trixie install not loading hwdb rules » 2025-11-14 03:49:40

Someone tried to open a bug report about it several years ago, but Pottering himself closed it. He said it sounded "like a support issue!"

More garbage produce by that asshole, small shock there.

#98 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Migrated Trixie install not loading hwdb rules » 2025-11-14 00:45:00

but it must have been changed recently.

Debian have become rather fond of breaking changes made recently. If you are lucky that showed up in a news file most people never see or read when the package with the breaking change was installed. Good to see you get it solved and actually posted the solution something that can be a rare occurrence on internet forums, thanks for doing it.

#99 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Devuan Excalibur Pipewire / via $HOME.profile » 2025-11-13 06:47:53

Well check what is actually being sourced.

/bin/bash -lixc exit 2>&1 | sed -n 's/^+* \(source\|\.\) //p'

That showed me for my machine.

zeus@9600k:~$ /bin/bash -lixc exit 2>&1 | sed -n 's/^+* \(source\|\.\) //p'
/etc/bash.bashrc
/etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh
/usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
/etc/bash_completion.d/000_bash_completion_compat.bash
/etc/bash_completion.d/git-prompt
/usr/lib/git-core/git-sh-prompt
/etc/profile.d/vte-2.91.sh
/home/zeus/.bashrc
/home/zeus/.bash_aliases
/usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
/etc/bash_completion.d/000_bash_completion_compat.bash
/etc/bash_completion.d/git-prompt
/usr/lib/git-core/git-sh-prompt
/home/zeus/.bash_functions

And I have a a .profile that is never used.

zeus@9600k:~$ ls -l .profile
-rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 641 Aug 31  2022 .profile

When I  use the autostart option of KDE to launch it I use this script.

zeus@9600k:~$ cat bin/pipewire_start.sh 
#!/bin/bash

# Added to start pipewire on login to desktop
# https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5867
# was the ~/.xsessionrc -rw-rw-r-- permissions
# now ~/bin/pipewire_start.sh executable permissions
# as bash script loaded from KDE autostart in System Settings

# kill any existing pipewire instance to restore sound
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1

# start pipewire
exec /usr/bin/pipewire &

# wait for pipewire to start before attempting to start related daemons
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
   sleep 1
done

# start wireplumber
exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &

# start pipewire-pulse
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &

As you can see from my comment in that file I used to actually start processes in the ~/.xsessionrc. Save yourself the time and trouble and do the same, it just works without fail. I only changed it as I wanted to test that steaming pile of dung they call Wayland and it would not start using the X11 config file method obviously.

#100 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] With Excalibur the intel GPU is using LLVMPIPE instead of UHD » 2025-11-11 19:12:22

I think he was talking about video playback, not the website.

How else do you access Netflix video on Linux except through a web browser and that garbage javascript all of them sites use. That is the main reason I have noscript running to prevent that trash from spiking my cpu every time I visit one of them sites that use that junk.

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