Hello:

You're welcome.

Yes, the Pantone Pirates ...
You seem to have all that covered then.

Well ...
In my limited experience, once these things start to edge into professional areas you find blocks and removing them is very costly because that is what the blocks are there for.

eg: specifying exact colours for industry wide use within a specific professional area like architecture.
When I was still a student, I was enthralled by this huge Pantone colour catalogue, till I asked how much it cost.  8^°

If Brother, a company perfectly capable of generating the correct ICC profile for this printer does not do it, it is because it is not interested.
eg: maybe they don't want this printer competing with other printers they manufacture, under their own brand or rebranded for third parties.

It is always a $$$ issue, they are not dumb.

Colour wise, I went by eye so to speak for many years and managed well enough.
These days you go to a hardware store with a peeled off patch from a wall you need to paint and in a while you get a 4lt. can of the right colour, mixed to order.

While I was looking to try to understand how all this ICC works, I came across a web page which may be interesting for to you to check:

https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/ICC_Profile_Creator

It is related to a raw image processing program called RawTherapee.
If it exists it is because more than one commercial application (expensive, obviously) exists.

This one is free to use.
Hope that helps.

Best,

A.

Hello:

When I decided to take an early retirement offer, I found myself needing a printer.
The little printing I've needed year in/year out was done at the office at my employer's expense, maybe 75/100 pages a year.

The last printer I had at home was a DeskJet HP520, purchased in 1995 and retired in 2005.
This time I looked for the simplest/least expensive B/W laser I could find, eventually purchasing a Samsung M2020W.

I went through hell trying to get it to work with my Linux box, I think running Ubuntu at the time.
Nothing worked and was about to give up when something happened ...

------------------------>  I installed CUPS!   8^D

Granted, the driver does not seem (?) to be as complete as the the one HP wrote for MS, but it works *prefectly* well.
Not *one* issue since I installed it and it's worked through quite a few distributions before I settled on Devuan: Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, PCLinuxOS, #! ...
Save some issues when printing from LO, but that is just typical LO behaviour of not fixing bugs and letting them fester.

I think that any problem CUPS may have with a specific printer lies in the structure of the PPD and/or colour profile files.
ie: if they are not properly written and match exactly with the printer's hardware, you get issues such as the ones you are going through.

Some OEMs actually do a good job and provide well written PPDs and others do not.

If there's only *one* good thing I can say about Apple it is regarding CUPS.

Best,

A.

Hello:

“Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated” Wrongly attributed to Samuel Clemens (1835-1910).

I run Devuan Beowulf on a Sun Microsystems Ultra 24 WS purchased in late 2015, second hand with ~ 4 years' use already on it.
It has been running without issues for the past eight years on an Intel Q9550, 8.0Gb RAM, 4xSAS drives and a pair of Nvidia FX580s.

So it is at least 13 year old rig.

I also run Devuan Beowulf on an Asus 1000HE w/2Gb RAM and the original HDD, also purchased second hand in 2010 with less than a years use on it.
Some plastics and a USB port went bad a couple of years ago so I snapped up a twin for US$50, transplanted healthy plastics and motherboard, sold the twin's lid/screen making a nifty US$30 profit and never had to look back. Only problem is that the battery pack/s are rather flaky.

Not bad for a 14 year old economy netbook ...

Many years ago I purchased a box of eight 9.1Gb Ultra SCSI IBM drives from a chap who had been tasked with physically destroying some hardware that was being retired. Of the eight drives, only one had issues, the rest went on to work for me for another 5 years. 

My longest lasting harware?
A Umax S-6E SCSI scanner, which I purchased new in 1996 and works perfectly well ...

Moral of the story?

Decent hardware can and often will last way beyond what people, driven by the dazzle and hype of the newest and fastest expect.

Best,

A.

Hello:

Good idea, but I think (like in the case of your example) that it may be more a dependency thing.

eg: my box runs Devuan Beowulf with a backported kernel.

~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 5.10.0-0.deb10.16-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.127-2~bpo10+1 (2022-07-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux
~$ 

I don't have zeitgeist installed.

~$ apt list | grep installed | grep -i zeitgeist
--- snip ---
~$ uname -a

But if I ask aptitude about zeitgeist, I get this information:

~$ aptitude why zeitgeist
i   desktop-base           Suggests gnome | kde-standard | xfce4 | wmaker
p   gnome                  Depends  totem-plugins                        
p   totem-plugins          Suggests totem-plugin-zeitgeist               
p   totem-plugin-zeitgeist Depends  libzeitgeist-2.0-0 (>= 0.3.2)        
p   libzeitgeist-2.0-0     Suggests zeitgeist-core | zeitgeist           
~$ 

I wonder if there's a way to scan the whole Debian/Devuan package information database to filter the packages that list zeitgeist (or its libraries) as a suggests or depends.

It would be really interesting to see what comes up.

Any ideas?
Maybe contacting the database maintainer/s?

Best,

A.

Hello:

Nice ...

What brand?
What model?

Good ...

Which release?
Beowulf?
Chimaera?

Right ...

For anyone here to be able to help you, it is absolutely necessary that you provide your hardware/software information.
If it were at all possible to do it just with what you have posted, we'd all be making loads of money as advisors on the LSE/NYSE. 8^D

ie: you have to do your homework before posting to ask for help.

Please open a terminal and do:

~$ uname -a

~$ lspci | grep -i wireless

~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i driver

Post the output.

That would be a good start for someone to be able to help you.

That said, the Mediatek MT7961 card probably needs firmware-misc-non-free package or the MT7921 kernel module present from version 5.12 onwards.

See:
https://miloserdov.org/?p=6899
and
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … e&x=submit

Best,

A.

Hello:

Hmm ...
Not really.

My question was:

You did not answer it.

Maybe, depends.
I was not looking for quicker.

I asked here on Dev1 because I use Devuan Linux, the issue affects Devuan+Chromium and probably affects quite a few Devuan users.
The solution/explanation (if found) will eventually be posted here and will be available to Devuan users searching for it here.

All that does not come with quicker.

Now, if my doing so results in your getting your knickers in a twist, annoys you or in any way upsets your fragile peace of mind, please do consider disregarding my question: you are under no obligation whatsoever to answer it.

Like I have said in another opportunity: I value your opinions, expertise and the help provided to me more than once.
That has not changed.

But it seems that you insist on acting up and in doing so do yourself a great disservice.
You are in no position to presume to be able to lecture me on learning anything, so please don't.

Best,

A.

Hello:

I think you are missing the point.
By a mile or so.

Yes, as of today.

As you can surely gather, that list can change and expand to a great many other packages within the Linux ecosystem.
Very quickly.

I beg to differ.
The point being that a package such as this one does not have a place or reason to be in any Linux repository.
Much less in Devuan's repositories.

In the same way that Wednesday night's sushi has no place or reason to be in your refrigerator because you expect no one will eat it.
Or will try to find the receipt from the delivery chap to see when it was purchased/delivered before taking a bite and getting scombroid poisoning.

Thanks for the heads-up.  8^)
But until pungentweasel posted his warning and you posted this list, here at Dev1 no one knew all this was happening.

As well as most if not all Linux users who installed budgie, cairo-dock, diodon etc. and ignored this fact.
Unless they read your post or done the research to find out.

ie: find out that this crap was being pulled in when they installed their chosen xxyyzz application.

Which is something that a Linux user should not have to do when they install an application from a trusted source such as their distribution's repository.

Why?
Because (up to yesterday) no one in their right mind would have thought that a Linux repository would have this crap available for installation.

Done.
Thanks.  8^)

Note to devs:

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Please consider banning zeitgeist from the Devuan repository.

Consequently, any application that requires zeitgeist to be installed to work properly should be sanitized just like any application that needs systemd to be present but can work without it.

And if it cannot be sanitized, it should also be banned.
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Best,

A.

Hello:

Indeed ...
Thanks a lot.  8^)

I don't have it in my Beowulf either.

But that's not the point.

The point is that, independently of whether it can be disabled/masked, such a package has no place in the Debian/Devuan repositories.

Anyone know how it is that it got there?
And most important, how it eluded proper scrutiny from the devs?

I'd say it has to be banned.

A.

Hello:

Right ...

It would seem that those of us who had something to say have already said it and in the best possible way.
Whether it made any sense or helped at all is up to the OP and how he processes it.

But beyond that, there's no need to keep picking on the chap.

I'd like to think that we are better than that.

Best,

A.

Hello:

Thanks for the heads up.
I'll check it out.

I really don't know if I need it.
Because I don't know how much the threat scenario has evolved.

If it has evolved (high probability), goes to reason that newer version would address it.

Me?  8^D
Been in this far too long for that.

Yes, I could.

But first I have to make 100% sure my nvidia cards will work properly and I will still be able to use slim and wicd, among other old stuff I have installed and then comfortably get rid of the POS that Xfce is slowly turning into to get myself a set up like what Phillip Newborough's #! Waldorf* was.

* which I think should be the default template for both Devuan desktop-live and installer-iso versions.

Yes, I know. 8^°

Thanks a lot for your input.

Best,

A.

Hello:

I have followed this thread on and off, more than anything out of curiosity and to see just how far it would go.

There's not much to add to the more than suitable/correct answers you have received, save this:

I take personal exception to the tone in your posts, which I consider both unwarranted and absolutely out of place.
I would appreciate your showing more respect to those who volunteer their time and efforts to keep both Devuan and this site working.

I'm sure my words represent the opinion of an overwhelming majority here at Dev1, so please do take them into account.

And stop behaving like a five year old.

Best,

A.