I have no inittab.d either. I'm fine with that.

I have found that the less stuff I have on my machine that ends with a "d", the better it runs, go figure.

Just noticed in the file I mentioned above /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/default.xml-devuan-sapphire, that at the top part of the file it gives out plugin-ids from 1-22,
and in the bottom section it defines those plugin-ids but there is no definition for 7 it just skips from 6 to 8, and that's right about where it hangs up in the process, number 7 would be in the middle of the top panel somewhere and that's where it stops loading for me and gives the error message.

So maybe it tries to load a 7, can't find it and doesn't know what to call it but "(null)", and just knows it doesn't work so halts the process?

EDIT: so in the user session I edited that file, and took out the plugin-id line at the top for number 7 and saved, then logged out and logged in as root for the first time in this session, and there was no error.

EDIT2: repeated that procedure above and again no error. Need a way to edit that file before it loads user to be able to test on user account, not sure how to do that during live-boot-up. the deepsea xml in that folder also has the same issue.

Can you get into a tty from the live-session grub screen and edit with nano?

Downloading now.

No updates this weekend, but I did upload what's likely the only copy (other than on my iso's) of the old Oxy2-ZEN icon set. Black folder icons and a lot of grays. A whole lot of way-back-when icons from long ago for programs that are long gone, but they are of historical interest and could be re-cycled and modded for new uses. I have added some over the years and did some minor mods.

Hopefully somebody might get some use from them.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … ous/Icons/

What rolfie said. Gotta install merge before you do anything, and after installing it I always re-boot just to be safe. Then I edit sources.list and start the process.

Cool! Will check it out, nice to see folks like you and fsmithred working to keep 32 bit alive.

Even better! I really don't like my scrollbars fading, or those awful skinny scrollbars either.

EDIT: fsmithred has an iso too that might be of interest or help to you, see this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7011

Updated/uploaded the ob-max-z with all updates listed in the last two posts. In addition, I also added a LOT more printer support,
printer-drivers-all and hplip, bluetooth print support, a gimp plugin for printing (plus one other package for gimp with some extra brushes and such). Goal with the max is to try and make everything work right-out-of-the-box if possible.

Updated Vuu-do mate-mini-z uploaded.
Bunch of updates including a new kernel, have also added support for thumbnailing
and viewing HEIF/HEIC and AVIF images. And have added a couple of older Xorg packages
to support even older AMD/ATI video, had to rescue a 2009 windows machine that got
obliterated when it tried to update yet again.

So cool Devuan still keeps them in the repo, good job folks, this was for a very deserving
neighbor lady too, y'all are doing good work for the community.

Well dang, didn't think to add the Intel microcode and didn't check here until the snapshot was already started. Well it's easy enough to add stuff in live-session I guess. Hopefully Nvidia cards don't have the issue I had. Testing iso up now, when you get a chance check it out and let me know what needs to change or improve on the next run or if I should even do more runs.

Well I got it running, i'd say "fixed" but it's not really. After many other attempts I finally went in and installed firmware for my machine.
firmware-amd-graphics and amd-microcode and everything started working.

But with this iso I have tried to keep everything OEM Devuan as much as possible i.e. not adding extra firmware etc., and on the previous (daedalus) version I had some visual artifacts and funkiness, but it worked without the extra packages.

So now i'm wondering if people with Nvidia or Intel graphics might have the same issue? Again, this is early in the testing process and first freeze does not happen until Saturday according to what i've read.

There are some errors noted during the boot process too, there's a new alsa_restore error, but I had previously found why and it's fixable if I can find my notes on it, the usual wdat_wdt error which is also easy to get past by blacklisting it. But there is a 24 second delay during boot right after "waiting for dev to be populated" that I didn't have before.

So i'll mark this partially solved, and try to run an iso tonight and post later if anyone else would like to test.

Yep, DNS issues for some folks, happens to me too. Search the forums for threads and there are solutions.

For me I just changed to the closest fastest direct mirror for me (midwest US) which is:

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged/ daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged/ daedalus-updates main 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged/ daedalus-security main