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#826 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-09 10:19:29

No worries. I didn't think I took offense, but hmm maybe I did. But it is true that I do need to retire off Devuan and that new and more people need to step up and in; not necessarily you of course.

The installer ISOs are built using https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso.git which has been streamlined into an almost push-button state by now. But, whenever an ISO is built, it relies on the state of the repository at that particular time and it's always possible for some update inconsistency to slip in. It is therefore I think the installer ISOs typically need a broader testing than a single person running through it once.

#827 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-09 09:20:38

BTW I'm all for testing software before releasing.
But right now the installer images don't work at all, and the fix seems quite straightforward to me.

Great. Welcome on board!
I'm probably doing things wrong yes, and need to retire.
We can rely on you taking over this?

Just in parenthesis: all the installers do still work fine as long as you avoid network mirror backing during installation. It of course means that you'll end up with a rather minimal system, but it's still one where you can use the manual patching (wget + dpkg) before using the network mirroring/access the first time.

#828 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-08 21:35:47

At https://ido.rrq.id.au/download there is an initial collection of trial installer ISOs that need to be tested in a range of settings.

Everyone here who doesn't devalue themselves with the label "just a Devuan user" should grab at least one of them and run it through a number of variations, and then report on it, maybe as an email to me. Refer to usecases.html for the primary use case division. VM trials as well as bare-metal trials are good.

EDIT: my alternate email is rrq at rrq dot id dot au

#829 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-07 23:21:33

alexkemp wrote:

Ogis1975's is a reasonable question to ask.

I disagree: it's a totally useless question.

Obviously there has been some kind of process failure when everyone in the whole community, including you and Ogis1975 as well as myself, failed to notice that the repository key was about to expire.

You don't have to ask about that. Rather you should ask yourself: "how can I help in the future?" and then act towards that.

#831 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-04 22:21:45

The first step would be to determine which, if any, installation use case(s) need attention.

#832 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-04 12:53:33

DandyKenguru wrote:

Considering the situation are you going to soon release the updated ISO in which this problem will be fixed?

Yes, it would be an excellent contribution to the Devuan project to refresh any of the various installer ISOs for this.

#833 News & Announcements » [SOLVED] invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository » 2022-09-04 01:01:26

ralph.ronnquist
Replies: 43

At 2022-09-04, the devuan repository key BB23C00C61FC752C updated at 2017 expired, which has led to difficulties for many users. The key has been corrected in the repository by expanding the validity period, and a new version of devuan-keyring, version 2022.09.04, is available.

It is only slightly complicated for an end user to get that new version installed given that their currently installed key version has expired. My proposed hands-on is as follows:

First alternative: this method removes the old local InRelease file for the distribution manually, and then installs the new devuan-keyring with "lowered apt security barriers". The sequence of commands are  (example for chimaera; change appropriately for beowulf and ascii):

  1. # rm /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.devuan.org_merged_dists_chimaera_InRelease

  2. # apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated --allow-insecure-repositories

  3. # apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

Second alternative: Anyone uncomfortable with those command line options should rather download the new keyring directly, eg

  1. # wget http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb

  2. # sha256sum devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb 96c4a206e8dfdc21138ec619687ef9acf36e1524dd39190c040164f37cc3468d

  3. # dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb

Further alternatives: if you have your own method that works, then that is fine too.

When the new devuan-keyring has been installed the apt system is operated as per usual.

#834 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-03 23:12:56

Note that the full hands-on may also require that the old local InRelease file for the distribution is removed manually, so the sequence of command would thus be (eg for chimaera):

  • # rm /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.devuan.org_merged_dists_chimaera_InRelease

  • # apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated --allow-insecure-repositories

  • # apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

Alternatively: Anyone uncomfortable with those command line options should rather download the new keyring directly, eg

Alternatively: if you have your own method that works, then that is fine too.

#835 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] lvcreate is not working as expected » 2022-08-31 21:46:57

You don't mention whether(/that?) you also re-created the block device (major:minor = 254:5) as /dev/dm-5?

#836 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] lvcreate is not working as expected » 2022-08-31 00:40:24

Isn't the #PV just a counter?

If there is a difference between Devuan/Debian and those other OS types, it might be a difference in the lvm.conf files. Perhaps you can diff those between systems?

#837 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] lvcreate is not working as expected » 2022-08-30 23:37:57

I believe the next attempt would be to: a) deactivate that volume group, then b) manually remove spurious links for that volume group in /dev and /dev/mapper, and then c) activate it again.

That's on the assumption that the disk itself doesn't happen to contain some old LVM meta-data on the partitions. As you know, LVM writes stuff onto the partitions, and some of its admin scripts gets confused if there are even accidental remnants of old meta-data.

One step to deal with that would be to delete the physical volume from the volume group, then clear it fully, and then add it again.

#839 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Question about few Experimental packages » 2022-08-30 00:25:20

The short answer would be that "experimental is not merged".

You may note that the sources.list point says /devuan experimental while there is no experimental section in /merged.

You may well add a sources.list point for Debian's experimental section but obviously you take full responsibility for whatever package mix you make from that. With the appropriate pinning it should be "safe".

#840 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to Navigate Back to a Previous XFCE Session? » 2022-08-28 06:57:49

Well, I favour the belief that it is the Linux kernel itself that handles both C-A-Fn and A-Fn unless something like Xorg intervenes and "steal" the A-Fn key combinations. For example, you can easily switch also to VTs without input handlers. Or try:

# sudo openvt -f -c 24 echo "HELLO THERE VT24"
# sudo chvt 24

Doing that leaves you hanging in VT24 without any keyboard listener, but you would use A-F7 or C-A-F7 to "return" to X.

#841 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to Navigate Back to a Previous XFCE Session? » 2022-08-25 21:56:09

You can usually determine which virtual terminal Xorg is using by:

$  pgrep -a Xorg

and if that says, say, vt07 you may shift to that with ctrl-alt-f7.
Or, if you have a command line, the root command

# chvt 7

will do the same.

Further, there is normally a /dev/ttyN set up for every virtual terminal N. Thus, you may use

$ ls /dev/tty[0-9]* | wc -l

to see how many virtual terminals are available.
I think that is a compilation setting for the kernel.

See e.g. man openvt and friends, and man Xorg (look for "terminal").

#842 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Problems mounting SD card on card reader » 2022-08-22 21:40:52

I'd say you need to get a new sdcard reader; perhaps that the card is EXFAT formatted and the reader can't handle that.

#843 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » which tool for changing WLAN access » 2022-08-22 09:29:57

Maybe you mean:

# iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep -B1 ESSID

#845 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-07-30 00:25:10

mmm I don't much care about GUI, but I don't think I would see much value in using a platform that wants to be in control how my stuff looks. Probably best for me that I keep staying away from it smile

#846 Re: DIY » /etc/network/interfaces vs dhclient -s » 2022-07-29 22:51:13

Yes, one way would be to change the "method" for eth0 in (/etc/network/interface) from dhcp to manual and instead have the dhclient command as an up command (i.e. to be run after that the interface is brought up at link level).

To do that you would first run it as dhcp, then use pgrep dhclient to get hold of the full command to run, which you copy to be the up, with your modifications.

#847 Re: DIY » /etc/network/interfaces vs dhclient -s » 2022-07-29 00:00:17

@nahkhiirmees: you might rather want to use the reject statement in the client host's /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. See man dhclient.conf for details.

#848 Re: Off-topic » OT nonsense » 2022-07-26 12:37:29

As a reminder: this is a Devuan forum, and not a social-political arena. Behave.

#849 Re: Installation » devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20220704_amd64_pool1.iso » 2022-07-26 04:28:38

Thank you for noticing. Yes, they are all perfect again smile

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