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You're not providing too much info, I'm afraid.
For example what does :
cat .xsession-errors | grep xfce4-panel
say?
If, for some reason, you suspect one of the panel applets (which I do) you could inactivate all, and then restart the panel. Then take one after one back until the problem occurs again.
To restart the panel from a terminal: xfce4-panel -r
(The panel will quit when you close the terminal- so don't close it)
This way of starting the panel gives you good information in the terminal.
Play guitar too and Devuan is great platform for a DAW! I recommend Reaper - lot of native plugins for Linux and easy to use GUI.
(Wish I had a Strat )
Nice script!!! Thank You!
If you want a different theme/look you can add this at the top of the script:
export GTK_THEME="Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire"
Of course, chosen theme is up to taste. Or no taste.
If a team of devs wanted to take on maintaining X11 that would make a lot of people at Devuan and elsewhere very happy. But this endless jawing about X11 (and usrmerge) is just hot air and solves nothing while eating up resources on dng, this forum and elsewhere. Nothing lasts forever and human stupidity and technology just accelerate that process. This should come as no surprise to anyone with working brain cells. All the squeaky protesting against the wind solves absolutely nothing.
We are all just digital cattle being herded into the digital abattoir . . .
As well as this might be true, it is very pessimistic. There must be a solution and my hope is that enough people engage against Big Tech and work for the principle KISS. I'm no developer but I'll try and help out any way I can.
Cheer up! There must exist free thinking intelligent people here somewhere!
True.
Under Gnome create your own .local/share/applications/firefox-esr.desktop
It can look something like this:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Firefox ESR
Name[bg]=Firefox ESR
Name[ca]=Firefox ESR
Name[cs]=Firefox ESR
Name[el]=Firefox ESR
Name[es]=Firefox ESR
Name[fa]=Firefox ESR
Name[fi]=Firefox ESR
Name[fr]=Firefox ESR
Name[hu]=Firefox ESR
Name[it]=Firefox ESR
Name[ja]=Firefox ESR
Name[ko]=Firefox ESR
Name[nb]=Firefox ESR
Name[nl]=Firefox ESR
Name[nn]=Firefox ESR
Name[no]=Firefox ESR
Name[pl]=Firefox ESR
Name[pt]=Firefox ESR
Name[pt_BR]=Firefox ESR
Name[ru]=Firefox ESR
Name[sk]=Firefox ESR
Name[sv]=Firefox ESR
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Comment[bg]=Сърфиране в Мрежата
Comment[ca]=Navegueu per el web
Comment[cs]=Prohlížení stránek World Wide Webu
Comment[de]=Im Internet surfen
Comment[el]=Περιηγηθείτε στον παγκόσμιο ιστό
Comment[es]=Navegue por la web
Comment[fa]=صفحات شبکه جهانی اینترنت را مرور نمایید
Comment[fi]=Selaa Internetin WWW-sivuja
Comment[fr]=Navigue sur Internet
Comment[hu]=A világháló böngészése
Comment[it]=Esplora il web
Comment[ja]=ウェブを閲覧します
Comment[ko]=웹을 돌아 다닙니다
Comment[nb]=Surf på nettet
Comment[nl]=Verken het internet
Comment[nn]=Surf på nettet
Comment[no]=Surf på nettet
Comment[pl]=Przeglądanie stron WWW
Comment[pt]=Navegue na Internet
Comment[pt_BR]=Navegue na Internet
Comment[ru]=Обозреватель Всемирной Паутины
Comment[sk]=Prehliadanie internetu
Comment[sv]=Surfa på webben
GenericName=Web Browser
GenericName[bg]=Интернет браузър
GenericName[ca]=Navegador web
GenericName[cs]=Webový prohlížeč
GenericName[de]=Webbrowser
GenericName[el]=Περιηγητής ιστού
GenericName[es]=Navegador web
GenericName[fa]=مرورگر اینترنتی
GenericName[fi]=WWW-selain
GenericName[fr]=Navigateur Web
GenericName[hu]=Webböngésző
GenericName[it]=Browser Web
GenericName[ja]=ウェブ・ブラウザ
GenericName[ko]=웹 브라우저
GenericName[nb]=Nettleser
GenericName[nl]=Webbrowser
GenericName[nn]=Nettlesar
GenericName[no]=Nettleser
GenericName[pl]=Przeglądarka WWW
GenericName[pt]=Navegador Web
GenericName[pt_BR]=Navegador Web
GenericName[ru]=Интернет-браузер
GenericName[sk]=Internetový prehliadač
GenericName[sv]=Webbläsare
X-GNOME-FullName=Firefox ESR Web Browser
X-GNOME-FullName[bg]=Интернет браузър (Firefox ESR)
X-GNOME-FullName[ca]=Navegador web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[cs]=Firefox ESR Webový prohlížeč
X-GNOME-FullName[el]=Περιηγήτης Ιστού Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[es]=Navegador web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[fa]=مرورگر اینترنتی Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[fi]=Firefox ESR-selain
X-GNOME-FullName[fr]=Navigateur Web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[hu]=Firefox ESR webböngésző
X-GNOME-FullName[it]=Firefox ESR Browser Web
X-GNOME-FullName[ja]=Firefox ESR ウェブ・ブラウザ
X-GNOME-FullName[ko]=Firefox ESR 웹 브라우저
X-GNOME-FullName[nb]=Firefox ESR Nettleser
X-GNOME-FullName[nl]=Firefox ESR webbrowser
X-GNOME-FullName[nn]=Firefox ESR Nettlesar
X-GNOME-FullName[no]=Firefox ESR Nettleser
X-GNOME-FullName[pl]=Przeglądarka WWW Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[pt]=Firefox ESR Navegador Web
X-GNOME-FullName[pt_BR]=Navegador Web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[ru]=Интернет-браузер Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[sk]=Internetový prehliadač Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[sv]=Webbläsaren Firefox ESR
[b]Exec=/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr %u[/b]
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=firefox-esr
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
StartupWMClass=Firefox-esr
StartupNotify=true
The advice from @Nietz should give you the correct Exec= PATH (/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr).
My suspicion is that dear Gnome per default uses another path. And that is its own fault.
Good article!!! Must read!
(one letter missing in the link above. correct link here: https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/27/ … post_open/ )
I've been using Linux since 1997 and the last 10-12 years Linux only. No MS, no dual boot. When Ubuntu went to Unity I used Xfce instead. My last Ubuntu was 18.04 and I really got mad at systemd when it took over DNS-resolving too. It really slowed down DNS look ups and hence surfing. My five machines now run Devuan all, and I'm happy. I do not meet any restrictions in my daily usage in my DAW or when gaming or whatever.
So I really really hope Devuan can live on and stand as an example of free thinking and individuality.
Yes, Happy New year and a BIG thanks to all the devs of Devuan! Devuan is a fresh and shining bright light! Devuan is a beacon on the dark seas!
Again, a big thank you to all developers and moderators!
CYA!
Regards,
Mr Svensson, Sweden.
The Devs here are great!
Merry Xmas!
Since Esleeps last thread I learnt a new word in english - "vapid" . Very good word!
Esleep - go to sleep.
I guess Daedalus now is more picky than Chimaera on this topic.
That's seems to be true. Or, the instructions aren't very clear here, or they are too directed towards UEFI systems. I've used Linux for years but I'm still not used to UEFI and I do not do dual booting with windows either.
In this case, no EFI, no ESP with FAT32 is required. The ESP is useless in such a case.
Yeah, but it seemed to me that Chimaera used those flags and formats too.
Just encountered this today again when installing on an older machine. Non UEFI. No luck with Daedalus desktop image after three tries to partition the disk with recommended Gparted, GPT, EFI, ESP and FAT32 plus install the bootloader and all. Just no boot.
So, downloaded Chimaera and let that installer to everything and it seems to do exactly what's recommended in the Daedalus installer. GPT, FAT32 and ESP and all. And it boots!
Would be interesting to know the differences between the two install scripts.
However, I've seen some other threads here with the same issues with Daedalus and it's a bit worrying actually. I mean, one argument for switching to linux is to revive older machines. And then there are these issues.
But, a clean install of Chimaera is very easy to immediately upgrade to Daedalus. And there are excellent instructions on devuan.org on how to upgrade.
Yeah, using Linux Steam leaves you almost on your own. But I've found a good place at the Proton GitHub. Here:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues
There you can find more info on the Shader Cache problem and several workarounds.
There are also another line of Proton you could try, it's the "GE"-line. Those versions can be downloaded and manually copied to the steamapp directory. I'm running those for some months now.
Good to know! I was holding off updating one of my machines. Thanks!
EDIT: just updated and it seems to be working 100% Kernel 6.1.0-16-amd64 and Nvidia version: 525.147.05
Yayy!
There were some problems here too with slow building of shader cache - every startup. But in my case I could disable it. Supposedly there is some minimal lag sometimes when the game is starting but I haven't noticed much.
I play World of Warships on Devaun/Steam/Nvidia and it works very nicely. So I'm following this thread too! Good Luck!
Good job! I'm into Xfce but I've used Mate before too. Mate is nice and your goals are the best!
Think I finally found the right way to rotate .xsession-errors and save a copy too.
It is to use this script:
#!/bin/bash
for i in {9..1}; do
if [[ -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.${i} ]]; then
mv -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.${i} /home/svensson/.xsession-errors.$((i+1))
fi
done
And in Xfce autostart run it as script at shutdown. At boot doesn't work since the file won't be written to. For some reason.
AI seems to be paranoid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YIlwxBuvM
Just upgraded my second machine to Daedalus from Chimaera with good results. I followed the procedure from here:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus
But before starting that I disabled third party sources temporarily.
Everything seems to be in working order.
Thank you Dev-team!
I'm reading a biography of George Orwell ("1984"). "The Ministry of Truth" by Dorian Lynskey. Really good! Generally biographies gives you a lot of history of the times concerned in the book. This book writes about circa 1880-1950 and touches the Spanish civil war, several other big authors of the time like H.G. Wells, just to mention one. As you might already know Orwell/Eric Blair partook in the civil war in the trenches of Spain.
The book 1984 might be hot even today with all the Big Tech and polarization going on in society. But I do not know if I can stand re-reading it right now. The future doesn't seem too promising, I think.
Following...
wanna see how it turns out.
Their shinny new shackles might be more appropriate . . .
It might be time to read George Orwell's "1984" again...