First attempt with a new file under /etc/udev/rules.d : failed.
Not a surprise actually, since i haven't done anything with udev rules before.

Edit. of course i'm aware of the fact that there's no more static files under /dev anymore. About 20 years ago there was 1 attempt to create the device files on demand? or during boot?
And then the second attempt which was called udev.

Looks like adding LIBSEAT_BACKEND=logind to /etc/environment doesn't help, BTW.

TRied https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Elogind#st … ntegration . Created .xinitrc with exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session lxdm .
After that, first attempts with startx in init 2 , sa normal_user resulred in something like that:

culd not connect to socket /run/seatd.sock
backend 'seatd' failed to open seat, skipping
logind.c:317 could not activate session: permission denied
seatd/server.c:145 new client connected (pid:xxxx uid:1000 gid:1000)
common/terminal.c:162 could not open target tty:permission denied
seatd/seat.c:72 could not open terminal for VT 0:permission denied
seatd/seat.c:461 could not open VT for client

Also added normal_user to group input. Didn't help, propably because now it is /dev/tty* - files that have wrong owners and rights. I'll try again with seatd installed.
Edit:Didn't help with startx i mean.

Sometimes i wonder if the problem is the machine i have or is it just too many bugs or features in the software ?

Maybe I just don't understand the software of today, so i'll have to throw sh*t around to see what sticks.

Note to self: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Elogind#st … ntegration and those udev-tricks meantioned earlier, try if those work or not.

And "/etc/environment"  -thing may be related to: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gentoo/comment … d_elogind/ .

Finished recently:lords of uncreation by A.Chaikovsky. Mostly boring but the last 100 pages was slightly intresting.

Looks like this weekend i'm not going to do anything about that "postgres and *sqlalchemy*"-situation.
So maybe i'll try to a) remove all xfce-related packages and replace thwm with lxde-related packages b) replace elogind if possible.
Recently noticed this: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5909 .

Although better to make some backups before a) and b) .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGG0hQ5QKVU Karl Sanders - No Creature More Deserving of Cataclysmic Annihilation

I'm sure that there was an episode of House which included that "my finger hurts"-joke.

I was under the impression that devuan desktop install iso is for those who want desktop environment working ASAP.
And netinstall is more likely for those who want a minimal system. So is there any real harm done if avahi and some other packages are made optional in netinstall?

Haven't touched Arch yet. Would like to figure out first how to make guix usable.

By "removal of polkit-related packages" i meant:

apt-get remove --purge pol*;apt autoremove

rather not touch "libpolkit*" -packages since year 2022 when i found out that some of them are actually necessary if you want to log in to X.

Recently noticed this:https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6571 . Started to think: could removal of polkit-related packages have something to do with my "freezing problem" ?

And then there's that idea:replace xfce with lxde.

But on the other hand, i would like to get some Docker-related stuff done first before i cause a Fukushima-Chernobyl-level catastrophe. I think there's a related comic in xkcd.com but right now i'm too lazy to remember the exact link. Maybe sharks were mentioned, maybe not.

Edit. https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/349:_Success

Maybe "What i was expecting" was a over-statement. The "downward slope" looked like what i have seen in electronics books and from a real oscilloscope once. But that "rising edge" was weird. Looked more like sawtooth wave. Maybe a rounding error or a bug?
Should send some email to the makers of ktechlab.

Got tired of that ngspice manual...