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#576 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-22 01:51:10

@brocashelm . . . thanks for the explanation. The trend I assume will be for Debian etc. to eventually attempt to remove X11 entirely in order to make Wayland mandatory. Sneaky little buggers! I do hope X11 will be maintained and kept alive somewhere.

#577 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-22 01:16:43

I agree that OpenMATE is an admirable project but what does a desktop fork have to do with the demise of X11? Please 'splain!

#578 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-21 22:36:23

@athenian200 . . . there is no need for you to apologize. At least you seem to have gleaned some benefit from the responses that will help to sort the direction(s) your future contributions will take. It is not easy for humans to adapt to changes beyond their control and those pulling the strings will only protect/expand their interests to the detriment of individuals, community or even species survival. It is the human way and we adjust to and grieve the loss in different ways. Know that you are always welcome here . . .  smile

#579 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Problem with udevadm and initramfs on boot » 2024-01-21 18:37:33

IIUC usrmerge needs to be installed BEFORE moving to Excalibur or Ceres to avoid breakage. Will likely take some doing to unravel . . .

#580 Re: Installation » x won't start - Segmentation Fault after fresh install » 2024-01-21 16:30:26

Edit: btw, I also suspected it to be a NVIDIA issue . . .

Do you have non-free-firmware, non-free and contrib enabled in you sources.list? That will pull in any missing graphics drivers.

#581 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-21 16:22:32

chomwitt wrote:

One group of people must step forward and  do another fork . . .

Oh is that all! So easy to say. So useless to say. Show us the fork YOU are going to initiate and we will take your babblings seriously. Hot air does nothing but add to our collective climate woes.  wink

#583 Re: Other Issues » pavucontrol sound card settings change after reboot » 2024-01-20 01:57:39

I have never had a problem using apulse with an .asoundrc file.

#584 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-19 21:25:15

quickfur wrote:

Given that there's quite a lot of unhappiness with Wayland (see for example the link to XScreenSaver's page that I posted earlier), the demand is certainly there. All it takes now is for some to fill that need.

LOLOL! Actions speak louder than words, which seem to be your forte . . .  wink

#585 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-19 21:22:09

Cheer up!

I am an merely an observer . . . neither an optimist nor a pessimist.

There must exist free thinking intelligent people here somewhere!

Devuan is an extraordinary haven of folks with those qualities but sadly too few actually roll up their sleeves and DO something for whatever reason(s).

#586 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-19 16:08:26

@athenian200 . . . If a team of devs wanted to take on maintaining X11 that would make a lot of people at Devuan and elsewhere very happy. But this endless jawing about X11 (and usrmerge) is just hot air and solves nothing while eating up resources on dng, this forum and elsewhere. Nothing lasts forever and human stupidity and technology just accelerate that process. This should come as no surprise to anyone with working brain cells. All the squeaky protesting against the wind solves absolutely nothing.

We are all just digital cattle being herded into the digital abattoir . . .

#587 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-19 07:08:36

@quickfur . . . X11 like usrmerge is outside the scope of Devuan's mission . . . unless you perhaps want to be that dev that swoops in and saves the day . . .   wink

#588 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-19 03:08:05

Alas, these days they probably come with a built-in WiFi chip configured to ride on whatever nearest clueless newbie-run open WiFi network it can find.

I hear you . . . Thankfully, I am under a metal roof and most folks who visit cannot get a signal inside my house! My very own Faraday cage!! big_smile Just dumb luck, not planned . . .

Dowse allows you to turn stuff off! Give it a try!!

#589 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-19 02:05:00

@quickfur . . . This is a good lead in to one of Dyne's projects that might interest you and others on this forum. They were on this years ago!

Dowse :: local area network rabdomancy

"Dowse is a RPi application that functions as a transparent proxy for home network privacy and visualizes network traffic real-time."

https://archive.org/details/github.com- … 9_14-06-19

My personal solutions are no mobile devices, no wifi, no microwave, OTA TV (and very little of it), yada yada . . .

#590 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-18 16:09:51

Welcome to the forum athenian200!

This forum's search function pulls up many mentions of wayland.

Here is the thread dedicated to that discussion.

#591 Re: Other Issues » I can read but not send to the DNG mailing list » 2024-01-18 15:57:48

I requested:

When you want to post a comment or new issue to dng do so with the email of your choice and I will take care of it when I see it.

Probably not a good idea to post parts of your email openly on this forum.

#592 Re: Other Issues » I can read but not send to the DNG mailing list » 2024-01-16 03:10:19

@Mike . . . I suggested  for you to post "A" test email. "A" meaning ONE. Now you have posted TWO with different addresses and there is no way to know which one you want to have activated sooooo . . . I am going to delete them both! When you want to post a comment or new issue to dng do so with the email of your choice and I will take care of it when I see it. I check once a day.

#593 Re: Other Issues » I can read but not send to the DNG mailing list » 2024-01-15 00:50:32

@Mike . . . Have you tried to post? First posts are moderated on all new accounts but there is nothing currently waiting in the queue. Maybe post a test email with the question you want to ask or if you don't have one atm say something like  "This is a test from Mike. Please delete". Then I can see if it arrives . . .

There was no response because it is on dyne's infrastructure and I have no idea where it might have landed . . .

#594 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] firefox menus » 2024-01-14 23:38:15

Hi Mike . . . just R click on an empty space in the top bar to toggle the list that offers the Menu Bar.

#595 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2024-01-14 19:23:33

Oh boy . . . I wish I hadn't clicked on this link written by someone in the GMO/biotechnology resistance movement for decades:
https://www.scanthehorizon.org/p/dnai-t … telligence

Buckle up as a new artificial world rises to dominance. Though after the chestnut
debacle, I'm counting on more misfires than usable results . . . Playing god will
inevitably have consequences . . .

#596 Re: Off-topic » Search babble » 2024-01-11 20:23:48

@quickfur . . . It might have felt that way to you but that was not the important takeaway because I really don't care what browser you use or what choices you make in your life. But it is to your benefit to understand why and how you make those decisions. If humans chose more wisely, we wouldn't be in the mess in which we currently find ourselves.   wink

#597 Re: News & Announcements » The dev1galaxy.org (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2024-01-11 02:20:52

Yes, I think we have a winner that fits in well with the character of this forum!

Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion that helped to get us there!!

#598 Re: Off-topic » Search babble » 2024-01-11 00:18:10

You keep looking outward . . . when the root of the problem is an inner dynamic . . . smile

#599 Re: Off-topic » Search babble » 2024-01-10 23:04:42

Regarding this rephrased rationale:

The reason I use xxxxxx is not because I agree with their practices but because their xxxxxxx is technologically the best . . .

Do you have any idea how much evil and destruction has been done to this planet and its inhabitants with that logic?

And yes, of course it is a choice . . . unfortunately, humans usually make the wrong one(s) and end up paying for it individually and collectivelyl

#600 Re: Off-topic » Search babble » 2024-01-10 22:35:14

For me it's a matter of ethics . . .

The question is: Does the end justify the means!

Impulses and rationalizations can quickly become a slippery slope so I evaluate choices very carefully to protect my own integrity and ensure I am not just blindly satisfying this or that impulse . . .

I do not want to touch Google because it is not my friend and I will not participate in supporting it.

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