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#526 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-06 16:19:54

To make sure the latest version is on the stick finally? And that does not change the issue with the Daedalus media?

#527 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-05 17:49:55

Updated my Ventoj to 1.0.96 and also tried the server and the desktop iso, all the same.

#528 Re: Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-11-04 14:13:44

nahkhiirmees wrote:

I guess distros with systemd work in a sense that i can run firefox and vlc and virtualbox and stuff like that.
But i'm not fully convinced it is a way to go. On the other hand i sometimes wonder if all those scripts related to sysvinit are absolutely necessary, could you do things another way instead? Make init or inittab do the jobs of those rc-scripts somehow?

There is no need for any init script for simple applications like firefox(-esr), libreoffice, vlc, virtualbox ....

#529 Re: Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-11-04 14:10:38

zapper wrote:

Virtualbox requires systemd, if I recall correctly... that I know of...

That is not correct. I am using VBox now for so many years, I can't really tell how long. And I have always used the package supplied by https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. On Devuan no issues with systemd all along from ASCII to Excalibur.

#530 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to set default desktop? » 2023-11-04 14:07:20

LightDM is a good choice. I am using it on Mate or Cinnamon since many years now.

#531 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-02 21:55:30

May I add a few lines (on Ventoj 1.0.94 from July this year):

What snork describes is what happens with legacy boot of Ventoj/Devuan.

All in efi mode, netinstalls:
5.0.0 normal mode I just get an _ and have to use the Reset button.
5.0.0 grub mode: no bootfile found for efi

5.0.1 normal mode: the first menu comes up ok, can select expert install, end in the mount cdrom scenario described before.
5.0.1 grub mode: have to repeat the test, can't decipher my scribbling no bootfile found for efi

Strangely enough grub mode produces an efi error.

An old preview dated 220523 in normal mode boots to the Choose Language screen, same as older releases. Same for Debian 12.1. Others like gparted life 1.5.0-1, mint 21.1 ... work fine.

Edith: added the 5.0.1 grub mode test

#532 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-02 15:05:56

Well, currently neither Bookworm nor Daedalus (5.0.0 and 5.0.1) will run from a Ventoj stick ok. There have been changes in the graphics that are incompatible with Ventoj.

I have seen a claim that using the grub-mode might be a workaround, haven't tried it yet.

Older versions are fine.

Edith: My mistake, confused Bookworm behaviour on Ventoj with boot issue in Virtual Box and efi mode. Bookworm works fine from Ventoj.

#533 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to set default desktop? » 2023-11-02 13:54:23

I am using Cinnamon with Lighdm, no other DE installed. Then the default is Cinnamon. Haven't changed or configured anything. Is so by installation.

#534 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 18:18:40

Some comments to a dual boot with Windows.

First: Windows should be installed first and sets the boundary conditions for the partitioning scheme of the system disk. Legacy install means MBR partitioning, UEFI install means GPT partitioning. Valid for Win7 and newer. My advise for going on to use XP: copy it into a VM.

Second: Linux systems don't care about MBR or GPT, legacy and efi, installation is possible in any combination. But side conditions do apply:
- for a legacy install on a GPT disk you will need a bios-grub partition with no file system on it.
- an uefi installation requires an esp. Size somewhere from 128M to 512M if you are generous, FAT32 as file system is mandatory, best is if its the first partition on the disk, esp flag set.

Some side effect of the os-prober: it can't find other encrypted Linux installations. Manual work is required to add such a system into grub.

#535 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 18:01:52

Nope, you have to enable os-prober past the first boot of the installed Devuan. And there is no need to hope, it will work as a charm when enabled. It simply works when enabled.

BTW to set the mind right: Devuan is a Debian w/o systemd. You may find a list of banned packages on the Devuan webpage. Where appropriate or required, the Devuan team has developed replacements. All the rest is Debian.

Edith: forgot to mention, the decision to disable os-prober per default was a Debian decision.

#536 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 17:12:03

WDstudios wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

Edit /etc/default/grub to enable (un-disable) os-prober.

Uh, how?

You know how to call up a console? And how to gain superuser rights? Here is a rough guideline:

$ su -
# cd /etc/default
# nano grub
# update-grub

#537 Re: Devuan » Installed Daedalus! » 2023-10-14 15:22:15

I guess you may have to look into the difference between using su and su - for getting root access. This is a feature that was inherited from Debian a while ago.

You may need to use su -.

#538 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to Choose X11 and not Wayland at Boot » 2023-10-12 16:57:38

Which Login Manager are you using? LightDM, sddm, something else? The Login Manager should give the choice.

#539 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wireles-regdb. » 2023-10-08 15:20:58

On my Daedalus amd64 workstation:

# apt-cache rdepends wireless-regdb
wireless-regdb
Reverse Depends:
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-9-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-7-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-6-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-5-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-3-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-2-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-1-amd64
  linux-image-6.0.0-6-amd64
  linux-image-6.0.0-5-amd64
  linux-image-6.0.0-4-amd64
  linux-image-5.17.0-1-amd64
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-amd64
  network-manager
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-amd64-unsigned
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#540 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wireles-regdb. » 2023-10-08 13:47:38

This database isn't present on my main computer (only LAN), but on my laptop its installed as well in Chimaera as Daedalus.

If I am not mistaken the wireless-regdb is installed with wifi drivers and firmware as a dependency. At least this was happening when installing the laptop. I guess there are dependencies.

#541 Re: Other Issues » What ISO for an Any-OS-Boot HDD? » 2023-10-07 09:07:24

A Ventoj stick can boot both legacy and efi and displays its mode on the splash screen.

#543 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] ntfs not mounting » 2023-10-06 08:19:49

Well, strange. When posting the fuse hint I forgot that the old fuse has been replaced by fuse3.

Its working here on my workstation with fuse3 and ntfs-3g, no kernel modules.

#545 Re: Installation » Dual Screens Daedalus » 2023-10-04 15:12:37

unanswered wrote:

... I have 'non-free contrib' instead of 'contrib non-free' ...

The order is irrelevant, most likely you will need to add  non-free-firmware.

You should really read the linked thread to understand the background ...

#546 Re: Installation » Dual Screens Daedalus » 2023-10-04 11:33:56

May be simply due to an issue with the sources.list. New in Debian 12 Bookworm and in consequence in Devuan 5 Daedalus:

There is a new sub-repo called non-free-firmware. Look i.e. into this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5688

#547 Re: Installation » Can't install wine-stable on devuan 5, dependency hell » 2023-10-04 07:18:23

Well, looked at the list of available packages at devuan.org. When I read that list correctly, wine-stable only exists in the jessie repo. Looking at the Debian SW repo, its also missing in bookworm.

On my PC running Daedalus I get:

# apt list wine*
Auflistung… Fertig
wine-binfmt/stable,stable 8.0~repack-4 all
wine32-preloader/stable 8.0~repack-4 i386
wine32-tools/stable 8.0~repack-4 i386
wine32/stable 8.0~repack-4 i386
wine64-preloader/stable 8.0~repack-4 amd64
wine64-tools/stable 8.0~repack-4 amd64
wine64/stable 8.0~repack-4 amd64
wine/stable,stable 8.0~repack-4 all
winetricks/stable,stable 20230212-2 all
# apt list wine-stable
Auflistung… Fertig

Don't know from where you got that package, its not from Daedalus. I you want to install wine, use wine or wine64. You may need to add i386 as architecture first to be able to run also 32bit software.

#548 Re: Off-topic » Hi all! Back again after many adventures! » 2023-10-02 19:47:27

To the technical side of things:
1.) Devuan/Debian can be installed in legacy or efi mode on MBR or GPT drives in any combination when Windows isn't involved. Well, some side conditions do apply here and there like for efi installs you will need an efi partition in any case ... but its your choice which way to go. On new drives I suggest to use GPT. Not to count partitions and care about logical drives really is some progress and much more logical.
2.) In your case do not use any automatism. Make sure you use manual partitioning. That way you can select exactly where to install Devuan. Though a backup never hurts when things go south by chance.
3.) I think when you add the existing swap partition the installer will format that again. AFAIK you don't have the choice not to do that. If that swap is used somewhere else you will have to modify the uuid in the fstab.

#549 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Homeless » 2023-10-02 12:28:57

Ok, the PC is an efi only system.

To the live media: I have no idea about the refracta installer used on the live media. As experienced user I only use expert install with netinstall media with the oldfashioned command line installer. What I got from the forum here is that the refracta installer is limited in its options and sometimes causes issues.

To btrfs: I don't use this file system, no idea if it is present on netinstalls.

To the /home directory: the installer adds the /home path below / when you do not specify a separate partition for /home. You can select your desired partition for /home by adding a line to the fstab like this (you may need to adapt one or the other thing):

# Home
UUID=xxxx	/home	ext4	defaults	0	1

This line maps your existing /home over the newly generated /home on the root file system.

Prerequisite is that the user name and group are identical.

Then you reboot and you should see that the space of the /home-partition now is different.

#550 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Homeless » 2023-10-01 21:33:49

What a rant without telling anything about the PC hardware involved ... Ok, some comments anyway ...

Why Beowulf today? Is that a very old PC that does not work any more with latest versions? If you try to install in efi mode, it must be something relatively recent, so Daedalus should be fine.

efi-Mode and not writing to the efi partititon: any Debian/Devuan installer needs to be booted in efi mode if you want an efi installation. Make sure when the boot stick is selected that you use the one that is marked "efi"! If not the installer will try to write a legacy grub. This may explain this error 127.

Installations from live media often suffer from various problems. My advise: Use a regular installer. As an experienced user I do prefer the netinstalls, and I only use expert mode and manual partitioning.

To make sure only one efi partition is used, either remove all other devices from the PC, or use manual partitioning to select the efi partition to be used if more than one exists on the PC. Do not format it!

BTW: there is no fixed device detection order. Normal boot and installers can change detection order by chance depending on kernels used, timing, chance ... Always have a very close look before letting go.

Also the swap partition can be set during manual partitioning, but AFAIK the installer always will try to reformat the device. You will need to set the correct UUID in the affected fstabs manually.

Theoretically you can attach an existing /home during installation also by manual partitioning. But this is prone to errors, you have to make sure that you do not reformat the device. My personal advice is to attach it by modifying the fstab after you booted the install successfully, this would be my way.

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