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#501 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:54:50

The kernel developers are keen on their features. GNU's bloated libc version doesn't help either.

For a more streamlined approach to kernel development try OpenBSD or perhaps 9front. Just don't expect a Windows/OS X desktop clone, although OpenBSD does offer GNOME.

#502 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:42:07

Compile your own kernel then. And other software I suppose.

Devuan is pretty good in that respect though, and certainly better than, for example, Arch Linux and their "kitchen sink" approach to compiling & packaging.

#504 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:30:21

deepforest wrote:

And why ancient is faster and newer is bloated?

Developers tend to add more features over time. These features do not come without cost.

See also Wirth's Law.

EDIT:

deepforest wrote:

how disable apparmor from booting?

https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToU … e_AppArmor

#505 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] How my network is working? » 2022-10-30 19:25:07

That does not surprise me.

NM is useless bloat with a vanilla ethernet connection. All it adds are bugs. IMO.

#506 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-10-30 19:22:14

aluma wrote:

Why?

The capitalist mode of production is predicated on the growth which is destroying our planet. IMO.

But this is off topic here :-)

#507 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] How my network is working? » 2022-10-30 19:20:14

NetworkManager will ignore anything in /etc/network/interfaces. Remove eth0 from that file if you want to use NM with it.

EDIT: /etc/network/interfaces works via ifupdown & /etc/init.d/networking.

#508 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-10-30 11:15:58

LU344928 wrote:

I'm not far right. I'm Dem Soc leaning

Hmm, my apologies. But why the links to Murdoch's media empire? Seems a bit weird. Not that it matters.

aluma wrote:

So far, mankind has not come up with anything more effective than a free market.

And that's why our species is doomed.

#509 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-30 11:12:06

You could assign Debian repositories a pin value of 100 so they are treated as backports: only installed if specifically targetted but kept upgraded from there in future.

Something like

Package: *
Pin: origin "deb.debian.org"
Pin-Priority: 100

And install with

# apt install -t bullseye $package

#510 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2022-10-30 11:08:11

Off topic for this forum but any Alpine Linux users can expect to see my oksh package in the next release — it's been moved from [testing] to [community] :-)

EDIT: and I've just upgraded that to 7.2 as well ofc.

EDIT2: holy crap, 7.1 was part of Alpine's 3.16 release. I didn't even realise...

#511 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2022-10-29 13:46:53

Version 7.2-1 of both oksh and loksh are now available. I've not managed to move the loksh binary yet but it should still work with non-usrmerged systems. Please post here if it doesn't.

#512 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-10-29 13:01:40

I have to say that this article makes me like Google more:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/free- … buries-gop

@OP: I find your links to far-right propaganda websites disturbing.

#513 Re: Devuan » Brave New Trusted Boot World » 2022-10-27 17:20:06

The captchas are the thin end of a wedge: the same technique will also work with, for example, Netflix so you can wave goodbye to watching that on anything other than an Approved Platform.

#514 Re: Devuan » Brave New Trusted Boot World » 2022-10-27 13:16:24

xinomilo wrote:

in particular, everything seems to be dependent on TPM chip/firmware.. what happens in the case of "evil"/broken/taken out TPM?
how's that (=putting another "middle man" in boot process) a good thing?

The advantages of the TPM chip are sufficient that making them a point of failure is considered acceptable. The chips offer hardware-based securities against tampering with stored keys and the integration with the boot process allows for passwordless unlocking of encrypted drives.

Trusted computing is a big thing for enterprise so TPMs are considered essential.

EDIT:

Apparently Mac OS & Windows 11 users will soon stop seeing captchas thanks to SecureBoot & TPM "attestation". This will not be the case for open source operating systems, unsurprisingly.

#515 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages » 2022-10-27 05:18:53

ngai.fei wrote:

Interesting that it takes more than a year to get from completed firmware tarball to Debian package

The 2021-08-18 firmware tag was packaged by Debian on 2021-08-24: https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/ … _changelog

It is important to remember that Debian & Devuan are free operating systems. As such, the contrib & non-free repository components are not considered to be part of the official release and any packages from there are supplied purely as a convenience to users on a best effort basis.

The non-free firmware packages have been lagging behind for a while now, even in sid. They should catch up for the bookworm release though. Hopefully.

#516 Re: Devuan » Brave New Trusted Boot World » 2022-10-26 14:33:52

Just remember to disable SecureBoot and you'll be fine. At least until that ability is disabled, which is imminent on new hardware. Windows 11 has already forced vendors to disable "third-party" (ie, non-Microsoft) SecureBoot certificates by default[1] so it's only a matter of time before the lock-in is total.

#517 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages » 2022-10-26 14:29:42

The date given for the firmware packages reflects the time of the upstream git tag from which the package is built.

#518 Devuan » Brave New Trusted Boot World » 2022-10-25 19:26:14

Head_on_a_Stick
Replies: 25

The future of Linux booting, according to Red Hat:

https://0pointer.de/blog/brave-new-trus … world.html

tl;dr: use a signed, unified kernel image verified by TPM, all integrated into the boot process by the init system that shall not be named. Full encryption support is also provided, just like BitLocker.

I have to say that I do approve of this. I've been booting with signed, unified kernel images for quite a while now :-)

#520 Re: DIY » init script for stubby » 2022-10-24 20:54:14

sudo shouldn't be used in init scripts. There are other issues.

For a better version (along with postinst, prerm & postrm scripts) see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … ug=1008931.

Related: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4865 ← that shows how to generate an init script from the supplied /lib/systemd/system/stubby.service unit file.

#521 Re: Installation » New way to install Devuan » 2022-10-24 16:31:54

Hello, my compliments on your website, it is utterly gorgeous. Consider your style sheet stolen big_smile

NetbootCD looks wonderful, thanks for sharing this.

I had a quick look through nbscript.sh and I noticed it's using the main pkgmaster.devuan.org server — it would be much better if you could replace that with the recommended deb.devuan.org redirector. It will save a lot of load on the servers. Thanks in advance.

Also, have you considered this method of assigning variables from text file contents:

read VARIABLE < /path/to/file

I find this more elegant than the VARIABLE=$(cat /path/to/file) used in the script but I suppose tastes differ :-)

You might want to run the whole script through https://www.shellcheck.net/ because it shows a number of issues.

Finally did you know that whiptail(1) can do almost everything that dialog can but it's much lighter and smaller? I prefer it myself anyway.

#522 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-10-24 16:02:06

Hello :-)

It is sway. X is dead to me now. EDIT: apart from xwayland ofc.

#524 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-10-24 06:09:08

@andyprough: does X still run under root with slimski? EDIT: yes, yes it does. I'm blind.

Gratuitous wallpaper scrot to stay on topic:

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Mmm, Bimota...

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