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#1 2022-10-25 22:28:26

ngai.fei
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[SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

I'd always assumed that the chimaera-backports repo just mirrors bullseye-backports, and with, for example, kernel updates it does.

I cannot however seem to locate the equivalent packages for firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-iwlwifi (what I'm really interested in) in chimaera-backports/non-free, even though they're clearly available in bullseye-backports/non-free.

We appear to be stuck with the older chimaera/non-free versions. Any ideas why they aren't available in chimaera-backports?

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#2 2022-10-26 08:37:03

ralph.ronnquist
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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

Thanks for noticing. Since it is merging rather than mirroring, there is a short lag before debian packages appear in the devuan repositories.

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#3 2022-10-26 09:29:56

ngai.fei
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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

Thanks for clarifying regarding merging rather than mirroring, and the consequent lag.

The only the thing I'm still confused about is the length of the lag. The versions of the two backported packages I mentioned are listed by Debian as 20210818-1~bpo11+1, which appears to be over a year ago.  Would packages this age not normally have merged by now?

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#4 2022-10-26 09:35:30

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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

Not sure. You may need to find out when they went into bullseye-backports which would have been sometime later than what the source version code 20210818-1 suggests.

I wouldn't expect more than a week in lag since that's the period for amprolla's full merge.

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#5 2022-10-26 09:53:08

ngai.fei
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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

Despite the date on the version listing, it looks like they've only just been accepted into bullseye-backports.

Thanks for teaching me something about the repos! And thanks for the hard work; it's a great distro.

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#6 2022-10-26 14:29:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

The date given for the firmware packages reflects the time of the upstream git tag from which the package is built.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-10-26 14:30:16)


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#7 2022-10-26 22:25:26

ngai.fei
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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The date given for the firmware packages reflects the time of the upstream git tag from which the package is built.

Thanks for that. Interesting that it takes more than a year to get from completed firmware tarball to Debian package, even for a backport.

Just checked again, and there it is:

Package: firmware-iwlwifi
Version: 20210818-1~bpo11+1

At least I've learned something from jumping the gun!

Last edited by ngai.fei (2022-10-26 22:37:13)

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#8 2022-10-27 05:18:53

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Re: [SOLVED] Missing chimaera-backports firmware packages

ngai.fei wrote:

Interesting that it takes more than a year to get from completed firmware tarball to Debian package

The 2021-08-18 firmware tag was packaged by Debian on 2021-08-24: https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/ … _changelog

It is important to remember that Debian & Devuan are free operating systems. As such, the contrib & non-free repository components are not considered to be part of the official release and any packages from there are supplied purely as a convenience to users on a best effort basis.

The non-free firmware packages have been lagging behind for a while now, even in sid. They should catch up for the bookworm release though. Hopefully.


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