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#476 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-03 15:16:46
Status as of today:
* Crosscheck with a Bookworm VM shows that there the links from bin/sbin/lib are present.
* VM with a Chimaera installation that was upgraded from Beowulf does not show the links nor is the usrmerge package installed.
* Wrote a bug report against the installer, #824
* Manually converted the Chimaera VM and my two Excalibur VMs with different DEs to usrmerge. Links are present now. Chimaera went smooth, on the two Excalibur VMs I had to remove some files from /lib/udev.
#477 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-03 10:20:21
Would agree. I had the consolekit in the way on an older upgrade once, replaced by the elogind packages.
#478 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 21:56:24
Just tested a new Daedalus install in a VM: the installer fails to execute the usrmerge program when answering yes to the question. It never came to my mind that this might be the case. Its also no translation error (I am using German language), no matter if Y or N, no usrmerge. I executed it past the netinstall without mirror connection. Its executed and shown later by the links in Caja (MATE DE).
I guess I will file a bug report tomorrow.
#479 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-02 21:33:02
Show us a
# apt list libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 BTW: have you executed a
# apt full-upgrade ?
#480 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 20:21:50
Just crosschecked on an older PC in the basement that received a Daedalus installation from a released netinstall: no links, no usrmerge either?
Same on my Excalibur VM.
Question to the responsible for the installer, I this its Ralph Ronnquist: is it possible that the installer failed to execute the usrmerge program despite the answer was yes?
#481 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 20:13:12
To add my finding about the usrmerge package on my Daedalus installation which was installed more than one year ago from a preview when Daedalus still was Testing, where I answered the question during installation with yes:
# apt list usrmerge
Auflistung… Fertig
usrmerge/stable,stable 35 all This package obviously is not installed? What does this tell me? I am confused. According to a German web page I should see links from /bin, the /lib and /libxx folders and /sbin to the respective folders in /usr. I don't see any links.
#482 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 18:38:16
Well, maybe, you may got a valid point. As an experienced user I always use the netinstall media and expert install, never any live version, and never the simple install. Don't know what is questioned there.
Sorry, didn't consider that.
#483 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 17:51:23
I think the critical point is an upgrade of a non-merged system to a Devuan release which supports usr-merge. As far as I understand the upgrade process you end up with a non-merged Devuan. If you then apply the usr-merge package, you end up with programs in the wrong spot.
I did not mind the usr-merge like many of the participants in this discussion do, I accepted it as a ToDo for the future. I did my latest installations answering the usr-merge-question during the install from the first appearance onward with yes and had no issues with the operation of the systems nor the few release upgrades I did so far.
And from Debian 12 Bookworm onward usr-merge is mandatory and they have started to move packages. This then naturally applies for Debian 13 Trixie as well as for Devuan Daedalus and Excalibur. Have fun ...
#484 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-02 14:55:30
On my Chimaera laptop with Cinnamon DE I got as well network-manager as network-manager-gnome installed. AFAIR the installation past the DE went without any hasle with consolekit <> elogind, I am on elogind.
Looking at the dependencies: network-manager-gnome depends on network-manager.
#485 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to fix unicode text, it's showing as a box » 2024-01-02 14:43:39
Do I select "All locales"?
You could but that would generate all locales on your PC which I guess you will not want. Just select the one(s) that are relevant for you. en_GB.utf8 or en_US.utf8? Or both?
#486 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fresh Installation of Devuan Wifi Not Working & Grub Issue » 2024-01-02 14:29:16
And not to forget: run an
# update-initramfs -u -k allas root to tell the kernel to load this firmware.
#487 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to fix unicode text, it's showing as a box » 2024-01-01 20:29:03
Try a
dpkg-reconfigure locales as root.
#488 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to fix unicode text, it's showing as a box » 2024-01-01 19:29:02
A different thought: maybe Crowz removes some fonds? Just finished a bare metal Daedalus installation with Mate in a VM. So far just Mate DE, no applications, fonts available are:
Bitstream Charter
Cantarell
Courier 10 Pitch
DejaVu Sans
DejaVu Serif
Got all of them?
The default font is Cantarell.
#489 Re: Installation » all the new kernel disturb some old PC's! » 2024-01-01 18:47:48
My impression: it never was. The OP was only complaining about changes in the Linux world and Debian/Devuan ...
#490 Re: Installation » /sbin/mount.nfs missing after an update » 2023-12-26 15:45:34
How was the basic system installed? On current installations with newer releases you are getting asked if you want usr merge or not. I have always agreed to that to avoid hasle.
Or is that an upgrade from an older release before usr merge?
#491 Re: Installation » Installing Devuan on a PC with RX 7600 » 2023-12-26 15:22:49
Comment to the firmware directory: you will need to additionally specify "non-free-firmware" in your sources.list. Please add, do an apt update, apt full-upgrade and apt install firmware-amd-graphics, a reboot and check if this fixes the issue.
#492 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » trying to keep my 100yr-old father computing for another year » 2023-12-22 16:17:27
Well also from me: I think Chimaera would be a good compromise. Longer maintenance but still the old design of Evolution though a bit newer than the Beowulf package.
#493 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2023-12-21 20:10:05
You say "Non UEFI", that then means a classical legacy install.
In this case, no EFI, no ESP with FAT32 is required. The ESP is useless in such a case.
But: when you want to use a GPT partitioned disk for the installation, in Daedalus you will need to supply a bios_grub partition with 2 Mib, no file system, flag bios_grub. Refer to https://askubuntu.com/questions/500359/ … -partition When the bios_grub is missing essential parts of grub are not present, the appearance of the rescue screen can be explained by this.
I guess Daedalus now is more picky than Chimaera on this topic.
#494 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » trying to keep my 100yr-old father computing for another year » 2023-12-21 18:23:13
There is no way to avoid this Windows style decoration in Evolution on Daedalus. Stay on Beowulf or at the most upgrade to Chimaera.
#495 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] can´t install .deb file, system then asking for insertation of cd rom » 2023-12-19 20:41:38
You will have to setup your sources.list correctly. You obviously did an offline install. In this case the sources.list just contains a reference to the cdrom of the installation medium.
More info in the Ubuntu wiki which is a great source of information, and on this page about Devuan specifics: https://www.devuan.org/os/releases and https://www.devuan.org/os/packages.
#496 Re: Installation » installing kicd from backports. pinning question » 2023-12-18 08:16:46
That command apt -t daedalus-backports install will automatically pull in all dependencies as listed in the package.
Additional packages that are not dependencies must be installed with the same method as kicad.
Another question I'm not entirely sure of. If there are updates in the backport package, will that be covered by?:
apt update && apt upgrade
Yes, as long as backports remains enabled in the sources.list.
#497 Re: Installation » installing kicd from backports. pinning question » 2023-12-17 20:15:37
If you just want kicad from backports, just amend the above line to the sources.list. Pinning isn't required, no backports package will be installed by default.
Then execute:
# apt update
# apt -t daedalus-backports install kicadAnd you will get updates for kicad if they appear in backports.
#498 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Kernel 6.1.0-15 causes network-manager to hang when shutting down » 2023-12-14 16:05:09
What prevents you from having several kernels installed and choosing the one you need when loading the OS?
Nothing but: lately the update routine behind linux-image-amd64 just keeps max 3 kernels. On my Daedalus PC I have the 6.1.0-13, and 6.4 and two 6.5 kernels from backports. And my linux-image-amd64 is from backports so my kernel updates all come from there now. The 6.1 kernel history has been deleted by suggested apt autoremove actions.
And all of this without grub customizer (which caused me a lot of grief, so I think this tool cannot be recommended).
What prevents you from selecting the desired kernel version from the repository in Synaptic, for example?
Nothing except the standard solution is to let the meta-package linux-image-amd64 take care for updates. At least I am doing so.
You always are able to install kernels that are listed in the repository. I personally have no idea how that looks like.
#499 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Kernel 6.1.0-15 causes network-manager to hang when shutting down » 2023-12-14 14:26:33
The repository has a program grub-customizer, this is a GUI editor for the configuration file and a bootloader installer.
The 6.510 kernel has been installed on the laptop for a week now, and it works without problems.
What up with you today? grub-customizer is off-topic and we are talking about kernel 6.1.0-15.
That new kernel may run fine on many computers, but if you listen into the Debian forums you will find several issues with this kernel and network problem, mostly WiFi, but not only.
#500 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Kernel 6.1.0-15 causes network-manager to hang when shutting down » 2023-12-14 13:22:37
The kernel comes down from Debian. So a bug report into Debian would make sense. Though if I read the messages right the problem really is at kernel.org.
Looks like your issues add to the network problems seen by others with the -15 kernel.
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