The officially official Devuan Forum!

You are not logged in.

#26 Re: Devuan » Proposal "Devuan User Repository" » 2026-01-31 22:01:03

@EDX-0 . . . I had no idea things had gotten that bad in EU. I had the privilege of riding the wave of optimism and belief in education and progress following WWII. Accelerated classes. Amazing field-trips. After-school lectures from scientists on the cutting edge of research. Affordable higher education and all that went with that.

I never wanted a computer. Someone had to buy one for me. It was fun for a while and I used it to fight successfully to stop several unwanted local projects etc. and of course Devuan (even before it existed). Then dealing with the machine started becoming not fun anymore . . . always chasing my tail having to constantly relearn how the damn thing works. Having the machine dictate my life is not living . . . it is servitude!

#27 Re: Devuan » Proposal "Devuan User Repository" » 2026-01-31 20:32:11

Sad that our species has devolved to the point where "remedial classes" are suggested as a "solution" . . .

Note that I speak as an observer of the present compared to the tapestry of the past. Humans used to be competent to solve real problems in the real world. Those skills are quickly devolving and I am unsure that remedial intervention would even be effective at this point. The "masters of the machine" have seen to that . . .

When I was in high school, I read SciFi that foresaw this dynamic so no surprise that we have created what our collective consciousness has imagined and it is actually rather horrifying . . .

#28 Re: Devuan » Proposal "Devuan User Repository" » 2026-01-31 16:07:38

This is not a bad idea but . . .

Devuan does not need more diversification. It needs more hands on deck to take care of the essentials that are required. Currently, there is little or no redundancy to maintain those essential tasks and the new ones that keep popping up. Better use of your talents would be to join the team rather than to scratch your own itch.

#29 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Ceres upgrade error » 2026-01-24 22:20:48

Ceres is always broken. You should know this by now. Once Debian fixes something, Devuan has to fix Debian's breakage of Devuan.

#30 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2026-01-20 02:46:29

Thanks for your offer, mamaforestcritter . . .

You are welcome to make your wallpapers available to devuan users. Perhaps you could start a thread on this forum, maybe in DIY.

If you are more ambitious, I will point you to where the default desktop theming is kept in our git:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics

If you have an interest, this is the official guide to theming the default desktop. Note that it might not be viable with newer GTK and other Debian "defacements":

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … -devuan.md

That might give you some ideas . . .

PS. I am also a "forest critter" of sorts . . . smile

#31 Re: Other Issues » Deleted Post/Topics - do they count? » 2026-01-09 20:46:01

AFAIK, deleted posts disappear forever. Early on, some posts were moved to an admin location for discussion and future reference but I don't think it is used anymore. As to whether they still count . . . that is a question for rrq. Why does the bean-counter matter to  you?

#32 Re: Off-topic » GTK2 Removed from Arch's Repositories » 2026-01-08 23:36:11

GNOME is the poison that kills freedom. Full stop!

#33 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Thunar flooding .xsession-errors after Excalibur upgrade » 2026-01-07 18:43:26

.xsession-errors is the first thing I delete after reboot . . . if I can remember! LOL!

#36 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] having issues installing vivaldi browser in excalibur » 2026-01-03 15:12:25

I also had a brief go'round with vivaldi many years ago. Kicked it to the curb when I learned more about it.

#37 Re: Off-topic » Happy New Year to all you Devuaners » 2026-01-02 15:50:39

Newsflash . . . it is nothing special. just another day that whizzes by with much of it likely wasted contemplating utter nonsense.

#38 Re: Devuan » Excalibur - is it really stable? » 2026-01-01 18:51:14

Quite a few of the issues in Devuan came from a shoddy release from Debian:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … ex.en.html

Go to the bottom of that page and click on "previous" several times to get to the list of out standing bugs at release time. I could not find a more direct way to get to that information. They really buried it!

#39 Re: Off-topic » The future of "synthetic food" » 2025-12-30 23:42:01

Or maybe Soylent Green?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green

"Soylent Green is a 1973 dystopian thriller film based on a novel by Harry Harrison. It depicts a future world where people eat human-derived wafers called Soylent Green, and a detective uncovers a conspiracy behind the product."

Don't get me started on Musk . . .

#40 Re: Off-topic » The future of "synthetic food" » 2025-12-30 23:19:21

The other side of that equation . . . how are all those unemployed humans going to make a living to pay for food and shelter etc?

And newsflash . . . Most of what humans do doesn't benefit humans either . . .

#41 Re: Off-topic » Is AI going to become a Frankenstein monster? » 2025-12-30 22:40:27

Add this one to the list . . .

An excerpt from the 1968 film "2001: A Space Odyssey" directed by Stanley Kubrick

HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE

#42 Re: Off-topic » The future of "synthetic food" » 2025-12-30 18:30:02

If only! Automation hasn't slowed down the economy one bit. In fact, it has been flourishing for decades with shiny, new s***  produced with automation (baby bots).

#44 Re: Off-topic » The future of "synthetic food" » 2025-12-30 16:03:23

HardSun . . . Aren't we already doing that? I have seen mobile, humanoid bots that can talk and industry is already salivating at the prospect of a workforce that doesn't require a salary . . .

#45 Re: Off-topic » The future of "synthetic food" » 2025-12-29 23:45:22

I gave up trying to find an apple or any derivative product that tasted like an apple years ago. I remember picking apples along with the migrant workers just for fun when I was a kid and sinking my teeth into them moments after being picked. Now that is REALLY fresh, REAL food and before pesticides and all the Green Revolution nonsense!

Thanks for the offer! I would LOVE to taste a REAL apple again (or a "derivative" that is only apple without anything added) but . . . we aren't exactly neighbors . . .

#46 Off-topic » The future of "synthetic food" » 2025-12-29 22:54:18

golinux
Replies: 11

Last night on the NBC evening news they aired a segment titled "The Future of Food". Oh . . . the irony!! This certainly isn't referring to: https://thefutureoffood.com/

This version praises the future of "environmentally-friendly" synthetic foods like butter and meat created from carbon dioxide, methane and water for "plant and animal-free alternatives". They even highlighted a chef who is promoting and selling(?) this stuff! What a way to start the New Year!

"Savor" is the company mentioned in this clip but I imagine there are others who are also doing "synthetic food".

Here's the link:
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news-ne … 5091269972

Clip starts at: 15:34

Be sure to have a bucket nearby . . .

golinux

#47 Re: Off-topic » Is AI going to become a Frankenstein monster? » 2025-12-29 22:38:19

Repeated for truth . . . this from a wise teacher:

"Perhaps we are what we eat but we definitely will become what we think."

The imagination that so entrances us is also the tool of our destruction.

#48 Re: Off-topic » Is AI going to become a Frankenstein monster? » 2025-12-25 18:42:51

The genie is already long out of the bottle . . .

#49 Re: Installation » LXQt cant install at Ceres » 2025-12-19 20:46:19

ceres is always broken. This is not news . . .

#50 Re: Off-topic » AI in Firefox or Waterfox » 2025-12-19 17:39:45

The latest FireFox/ddg update includes options to search with AI. I made that option "disappear" with uBlockOrigin so I wouldn't accidentally click it. Doesn't mean that they won't try to run it without permission. Maybe there is an about:config option to disable it?

Board footer

Forum Software