Sorted - the default power manager settings were the fault!

Now that is something that always has annoyed me, I didn't know that was what bleachbit did....thanks

Yes, it looks like I may just have to bite the bullet & do my own installation, but I normally use wifi, not cable internet, so can I use the Installer DVD to load a basic xorg system, plus wifi, or does it only install the regular xfce desktop system(?).

EDIT: I've just found Minimal Live, & reading through it's description, looks like probably a good start point for me, I'll download it & see.

Thanks for your responses, appreciated.

Debians decision to use systemd split the Linux community - I don't think the split can be repaired - I, personally, keep an eye on BSD, because I don't like the way Systemd works by amalgamating everything together like Windows Registry - one of the reasons I quit using Windows as soon as I could learn to use unix like O/Ses.

I do still use AntiX, because it is non systemd & easy to install, but it is getting messy, with all the unnecessary bits being introduced into the menu system - I am looking for an alternative - I have tried MIYO in the past, presently have standard 'live' Devuan installed on most of my computers, but it is somewhat 'heavy' in programs, not my personal choices, so not sure if I will continue to use it, but I know that I, personally, won't be going back to Debian.

Not sure many would need or want net install images, but the RPi brigade do want ready to install images...

The old OpenBSD installer was the worst that I had come across - it was curses based & used to make you use cylinders, & you had too keep count of where you were too.

So, OP, you've been using Linux almost as long as I have......each distro does things their own way, so you shouldn't really complain about one that chooses to use curses installers, it's up to the devs what they want to use, we get the privilege of using their hard work for free.

Yeah, but we don't need to be 135 - I'm just a cranky 70 year old.

That's the problem you'll often find, especially with non free drivers, (as stated above), most distros just include the 'usual' ones.

Try running, in a terminal,

dmesg | grep wifi

(you may need to use sudo),
that should tell you the necessary driver firmware to be able to get your wifi running.

P.S. Other distros you may find worth looking at are MX linux & AntiX, usually have enough drivers for most equipment.

I've been an ardent AntiX user for several years, but this Beowulf release is calling to me, I've dabbled with Devuan before now, but have always gone back to my regular distro - maybe my time has come to convert.....

Maybe the Devuan image doesn't have the USB drivers built in - I've come across this with other distros, (& BSD).

P.S. The larger first partition is for the RPi4, (but doesn't harm other Rpi).

It will depend on how many bugs need fixing, that is what the beta release is for.

As an aside, I tried putting the RPi3 64bit system onto a RPi4 Raspbian card, replacing the Debian system - it didn't work - then later on after having deleted my card, I realized that it would need all the kernel modules replacing too - my excuse is that I'm getting old.

I'll give the above a try sometime, & have another go myself, remembering to replace the kernel modules next time.

That should read /home/[username]/Desktop/palemoon/palemoon.

However, try moving it to /home/[username]/palemoon/palemoon & running by typing ./palemoon/palemoon in a terminal.
(If that doesn't work, check the permissions.)