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#351 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-20 00:11:51

xinomilo wrote:

a simple question about reported malware in contents, doesn't get any official feedback
what's up?

Why should blindingly obvious false-positives from third-party software warrant an "official" response?
Do you expect official comment on bugs and deficiencies in every other random piece of software in existence as well, or is it just bugs in generic "anti malware" heuristics that warrant panic from everyone but the purveyor of such patterns?

This kind of pants-on-fire response to generic-pattern false-positives is an infuriatingly common waste of developer time, from people freaking out about one-man github projects tripping microsofts "uncommon software" filters, to anti-malware scanners trying to quarantine each other's pattern definitions, to generic matches on innocuous text files. It's all equally bullshit, and all a problem that needs to be dealt with by the anti-malware vendor (or an end-user whitelist), not the innocent party being smeared by these defective tools.

#352 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-18 23:11:34

Is this a troll, or are we really asking if gzipped package digests are malware?
The mind boggles. roll

#353 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to disable IPv6? » 2023-10-17 14:39:20

Danielsan wrote:

it would be cool understand how to prevent ipv6 to be loaded.

If you don't want ipv6 support, recompile your kernel without ipv6 support, obviously.
Otherwise, disable it as already explained.

#354 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Presentation and question about DoT » 2023-10-16 08:55:14

IMO your best option is to run unbound as a local caching resolver. This is what OpenBSD does, and configuration examples for such should be easy enough to adapt.
Pretty sure dnsmasq can do this as well, if you prefer it.

#355 Re: Other Issues » What ISO for an Any-OS-Boot HDD? » 2023-10-07 09:55:25

alexkemp wrote:

I cannot find Devuan on that page. However, it is an interesting option, even if it means that I have yet another new app to learn from scratch.

Camtaf wrote:

Use a Ventoy pendrive, if you need multiple Linux distros - https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

FWIW current versions of YUMI use Ventoy under the customised menus anyway, all it really adds is the windows-based GUI setup utility. Whatever config it uses for Debian will almost certainly work for Devuan as well.

On the OP, if the intent is to gather evidence from a system (and we're not talking about professional clean-room hardware-level data recovery, which is well beyond the scope of a livecd/usb), the only thing the live system really needs to do is aquire a block-for-block (i.e. dd) image of the target disk in a verifiable manner, without mounting it r/w or otherwise tampering with it's contents.
Actual analysis can then be done on the image (or more likely a copy of it), with a conventional install that has access to any additional tools one might need.

Personally I tend to use PartedMagic (not a free download, but cheap enough or readily available through the usual back-channels) rescatux or clonezilla live for disk recovery and imaging, but really anything with decent hardware detection and dd and/or ddrescue preinstalled would do. That's pretty much any distro's livecd these days.

If I was motivated enough to go outside in the cold I'd check what exactly is on my recovery/utility drive, but if memory serves it's a yumi ventoy install with all of the above (multiple versions to accommodate ancient hardware), plus the Gentoo based fork/clone of systemrescuecd (I forget what it's called), UBCD, a couple of versions of hiren's boot disk, and install images for Devuan, Debian, Windows XP, Windows 10 and FreeDOS.

Ed. If you're looking for a live distro specifically geared for system forensics, CAINE might be worth a look. I haven't gone any further than a quick tire-kick in a VM as yet, but it looks like it does what it says on the tin and comes with pretty much every tool anyone could ever want.
It's Ubuntu based (unfortunately) and kinda slow, but I'll probably be adding it to my collection.

#356 Re: ARM Builds » [SOLVED] Vulnerability in Mousepad? Unable to drag, resize, or lower in cwm » 2023-09-23 01:01:19

Did you honestly expect anyone to read that wall of barely-coherent rant, or were you just thinking aloud to yourself?
This board some days roll

Ed. No, wait, it's most days. Guess that's why I don't bother trying to be helpful here, far too much crazy for my taste.

#357 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 5.0 VLC cannot play some mp4 files well, many mosaics. » 2023-08-26 02:13:37

HelenSmith wrote:

use command line to change the Kaffeine settings?

I haven't used kaffeine in about 500 years, but the bottom of the readme provides some hints WRT passing options to libvlc and/or setting the VDPAU driver.

#358 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 5.0 VLC cannot play some mp4 files well, many mosaics. » 2023-08-25 11:33:33

IME playback issues with VAAPI/VDPAU acceleration are more often than not GPU driver bugs. It might be worth keeping an eye on backported kernels and/or drivers (why nobody bother to mention GPU vendor or driver version here?) whenever they appear for Daedalus.
I've also tracked similar accelerated decoding problems (including a hard GPU crash on amdgpu) down to mesa in the past, but that's unlikely to get updates until the next stable.

In any case, all disabling hardware decoding will really cost you is some power efficiency. Any modern CPU should be fast enough to decode [insert whatever stupid number of "K" everyone wants today] video without it.

#359 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 5.0 VLC cannot play some mp4 files well, many mosaics. » 2023-08-25 08:27:39

I'm not downloading a 700MB file from such an unreasonably slow filehost.
That aside, your problem is likely down to hardware accelerated (VAAPI) decoding. Does VLC render the file correctly if you disable "Hardware-accelerated decoding" on the "Input/Codecs" settings page?

#360 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] (username) is not in the sudoers file. » 2023-08-23 19:33:40

evilpistachio wrote:

adduser command doesn't exist.

Devuan inherits the shadow -> util-linux change to su behavior from upstream Debian as mentioned here, and the same solutions apply.

#361 Re: Devuan » Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness » 2023-08-22 06:22:18

In 20+ years, I've never seen any distro say anything but "unsupported, at own risk" with regard to skipping releases on an in-place upgrade. Devuan and upstream Debian are not exceptions.
Why would you even try it, except as an experiment?

#362 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-22 06:11:48

IMO, sysvinit did need to be replaced... Just not at the expense of such excessive complexity and taking over so much unrelated functionality (and freedom to interchange low-level components).
Redhat thought sysvinit needed replacing as well, systemd fitted their vision of a "modern, standardised GNU/Linux system" (and that fitted the needs of IBM and their corporate customers), so they backed it and it's developer(s) then leveraged their influence in other projects (e.g. gnome) to force adoption.

Both business customers and casual users fleeing Windows like standardisation and "modern" (i.e. faster boot, secure restricted boot, better hotplugging, and other laptop-centric) features, nothing else had the developers budget or backing that systemd had, everyone wanted to be able to ship gnome in their distro... so here we are.
We here like our GNU/Linux a flexible, customisable, freedom-respecting hacker OS we can have full control over, but those are all bad things to corporations and normie users who have been drinking the "safety" koolaid, and they have deeper pockets and a larger userbase than we.

Like it or not, GNU/Linux is not the cool little OS by nerds for nerds it used to be. There's a huge amount of money involved these days, and whoever has the money calls the shots because even FOSS developers need paying jobs.

#363 Re: News & Announcements » The Register's OS desk writes about Devuan Daedalus » 2023-08-22 05:12:55

Well they appear to agree with my impression of the livedcd refracta "installer" at any rate. That hasn't improved since the last release.
Options are extremely limited, the "UI" presents as unprofessional and janky  - "do not close this terminal window", dialog box spam everwhere (at least one of which is empty, FFS) - it's exceedingly ugly, there's no way to navigate back to previous prompts, and it's ridiculously easy to skip steps or otherwise break it.

For my own use I don't really care (I'll just netinstall same as I always have), but as a first impression of the distro, particularly for new users not familiar with the script-based install processes some of us used a decade ago, refracta is awful.

The rest is just "It's mostly Debian, so unless you really want rid of systemd there's no reason to use it over Debian"... Which is a pretty fair assessment for most people IMO.
For those who do want to run something other than systemd, Devuan is one of only a few usable options.

#364 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » So what's the right way to install Steam and GOG in 2023? » 2023-06-25 05:38:59

Tatwi wrote:

Managing Lutris "bottles", various Wine prefixes, and so amounts to a "web of nonsense".

Lutris does not and never has used the term "bottles", nor does one have to manually manage wine prefixes.
As for selecting wine/proton versions from a dropdown list... That's literally exactly how it works in the lutris runner configuration.

OTOH, If connect GOG account -> refresh list -> select game -> click "install" -> click "next" a bunch of times -> click "launch" is a "web of nonsense" to you, perhaps you are better off sticking to steams proprietary, curated, walled garden of not-thinking-too-hard...

#365 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » So what's the right way to install Steam and GOG in 2023? » 2023-06-25 04:43:30

Tatwi wrote:

Proton is great!Any suggestions for GOG games? I'd rather not install a web of nonsense like Lutris, Winetricks, Protontricks

Native GOG games are native and include a (mojosetup) installer. For windows games you'll have to use wine the same as steam does, and currently the easiest way to manage that is lutris.
I don't know what you're on about with "web of nonsense", all windows games use wine or proton (which is also wine), the only difference is the "game manager" frontend. Be it steam, lutris, playonlinux, minigalaxy, gamehub etc. etc. they're all using wine and DXVK for windows game compatibility.

As far as lutris in particular, almost any game that steam can run through proton, lutris can run through it's GE-proton wine builds with a similar level of automation. These days it even integrates with GOG, Humble, itch and a bunch of other services besides for automated download and installation.

Tatwi wrote:

GOG Galaxy as straight forward as Steam/Proton?

GOG galaxy has no GNU/Linux support whatsoever. While it can be run in wine (for the periods where random updates don't break it that is), IMO there's not much point unless you need its multiplayer functionality.

#366 Re: Off-topic » Obtaining data from an Android-formatted SD/MMC Card » 2023-06-12 02:55:40

If this was used as "expanded storage" on a modern android device (and I expect it was by the [android_expand] partition type), it's almost certainly encrypted.
I'm not familiar with that particular device (nor do I remember in exactly which android version this changed), but encrypting user data storage has been the default for some time now, and unless you explicitly set up the device otherwise a card used for "expanded storage" qualifies.
If it was formatted as removable, it should just be a normal exFAT filesystem.

#367 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] File "recently-used.xbel" » 2023-06-02 22:45:01

Setting the immutable bit in extended attributes should also work - chattr +i [filename] as root.

#368 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-28 05:21:39

Standardpoodle wrote:

That particular bug is never going anywhere and might as well be closed with worksforme or something like that.

Many projects automate this with a "janitor" bot, e.g.

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

Might not be a terrible idea to implement something similar for the Devuan bugtracker.

#369 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-27 15:41:53

zero wrote:

This is not the customers who do the work, but developers

Ahh, I see. You think you are a "customer" for the operating system you received for free.
That explains everything... Or at least everything prior to the unhinged drivel in your last post anyway.
Perhaps read up on how FOSS development works, and how to file actionable bug reports?

Anyhow, bye now, have fun.

#370 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-27 07:27:39

zero wrote:

there should be some investigations done... there is no investigation... because there is no resource available.

The most available resource for initial investigation of a bug only you have encountered is... You.

You appear to want want somebody else to take responsibility for this, yet you have so far:
* Reported it to a team that is not directly responsible for the component in question, with minimal information, no reproduction steps, and no logs or debug output.
* Tried to divert discussion and tracking away from the official channels (bugtracker & mailing lists) to a user forum (which few developers frequent).
* Failed to follow up when asked to reproduce the problem with an untainted kernel (taint disables kernel debugging), or engage on the bugtracker at all beyond the initial report. (hint: replies to the bugtracker mail people who might care, forum posts do not)
* Continually stated a "suspicion" that this is a software problem that "somebody" should investigate, yet focused your own cursory "investigation" entirely on hardware.

Why exactly do you expect the Devuan developers, of all people, to work on reproducing a "bug" you "suspect" you have found, when you yourself are apparently unwilling to do the same? Do you want them to feed and burp you as well?

It is not at all uncommon, regardless of the size of a project, for a bug report to remain that - just a report - until either the reporter or somebody else with the same problem provides enough information to reproduce the issue. Developers are not psychic, and what cannot be seen cannot be fixed.
Only then can it move to [confirmed] and work on finding the cause begin.

#371 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-26 15:52:02

Standardpoodle wrote:

Can a report be in a moreinfo state for years?

A bug can be in [moreinfo] for as long as it takes for the submitter to provide more info as requested... Or until people get tired of waiting.
The last comment was "Did you reproduce it on an untainted kernel?", to which the response so far has been *crickets*.

zero wrote:

I still suspect EXT4, but cannot prove this.

Isolated report from a single user (vs. the uncounted thousands running EXT4 daily), and no proposed mechanism or reliable reproduction: highly likely to remain an unproven suspicion.

zero wrote:

Unfortunately, Devuan team seems to be too small to handle this kind of issue.

If this is a bug in EXT4 (and frankly I very much doubt that) it should be punted upstream to the kernel mailing list. Investigating esoteric kernel bugs is not Devuan's responsibility.

#372 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » obscure and destructive bug involving avahi-daemon and GRUB » 2023-05-20 04:31:31

* OS-prober and avahi have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
* If something as benign as mdns service discovery (avahi) "crashes" a network, that's the network admins problem. Likewise if their printers are discoverable on public wifi when they shouldn't be.
* Don't claim "bug" in a piece of software (or OS) unless you come with enough information and reproduction steps to identify it as such. One anecdote (and probably completely coincidental) is not even remotely that.

#373 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Remote X session - what works? » 2023-04-29 23:01:15

Also NoMachine, both the open-sourced NX v3 (used by X2go) and the proprietary (free for single connection) v4 protocol.
Personally I quite like X2go / NX3, It's pretty much X11 fowarding, but faster over high-latency links.

#374 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get USB to RCA connection to work? » 2023-04-29 13:28:12

amc252 wrote:

I would like to connect my laptop to a digital TV using the video and audio output from the laptop's USB port to the RCA video and audio entrey on the TV, and do so by mean of a connecting cable which has a USB plug on one side and 3 RCA video plugs on the other.

Again, there is no "cable" that will convert USB to analog video + audio. They are completely different signals, and would require a non-trivial interface device, the equivalent of an external video card + video converter (as modern video cards no longer have analog out), and sound card. Such devices do exist, but they're a long way from "a connecting cable".

Converting HDMI, displayport or either of those running over USB-C "alternate mode" to analog video is easier, as you only need the analog encoder. A cursory search search indicates such devices are readily available and relatively cheap... But until one falls out of the sky for me to play with, I have no Idea WRT to compatibility or configuration.
You'd also need an HDMI, displayport or modern USB-C port to use with it, obviously.

FWIW, video out from a USB-C port isn't really USB at all, it's effectively just repurposing the USB connector for HDMI digital video (one of the reasons USB-C has 24 pins, vs 4 for USB A & B). Getting analog video from that is still not a simple "connecting cable", but it's closer.
Have a look at the Alternate Mode protocol support matrix table here, you want "Component video". Note that all those entries specify "construction" as "active"... Anything labeled as an "active" cable is far more than just a cable, and implies a converter of some kind.

amc252 wrote:

The laptop has a TV-out connection, I just wanted to know if I could use the USB port instead.

Then I suggest you use it, that's exactly what it's for. Why bugger about with any of this when you already have the right electrical signal, the right video format, and the right connector already present?

#375 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get USB to RCA connection to work? » 2023-04-29 06:22:08

Step one: Ship me a crystal ball, so I have some idea what this "USB to RCA" device you intend to use actually is, and what video and audio chipsets it uses.
USB and composite video + analog audio (which I assume is what you mean by "RCA") are about as completely different as one can get, and anything connecting the two will effectively be a whole video card and sound card, with all the usual faffing around mirroring your screen to two video cards and configuring two audio outputs entails.

This is exactly why laptops used to include "TV out" composite or s-video from the onboard video card, for connecting to TVs and projectors. Maufacturers love to remove useful features for more "thinness" though, so good luck finding that on anything made in the last decade.

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