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#327 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2024-01-14 14:41:10

On such an old netbook your best choice is to use legacy install. You possibly never will get happy trying to use such a crappy efi implementation.

#328 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2024-01-13 20:23:10

Is that netbook one of this very new designs? Then it is possible that its an uefi only bios, no more CSM mode. I own such a laptop manufactured Dec 2020, an Acer Aspire 5.

The installation media has to be booted either in legacy mode or uefi mode, one medium for both installation methods. This mode determines the grub installation method.
One way to do that could be the boot override option. On my X570 boards this is the F8 key, on my laptop F12. I see there a USB stick twice. As example one entry "Toshiba 8G", a second time the same stick as "UEFI Toshiba 8G". Guess what that means.

Another more easy way could be the use of Ventoj. That tells you if its booted in legacy or in (u)efi mode.

To make sure you have booted the stick in efi mode fsmithred's hint can be used for a crosscheck.

#329 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Broken update » 2024-01-12 14:58:14

Updated my two Excalibur VMs about 2 weeks ago. Had to delete some symlinks the program complained about. Since then both VMs did update fine, no issues at all. Both encrypted, one with Mate, one with Cinnamon.

#330 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Software MGR Doesn't Update Software & Software Isn't Found » 2024-01-09 20:03:28

What you call SoftwareMGR is no Cinnamon package. Can't find a trace in Synaptic. You need to dig the WWW yourself for its origin and the boundary conditions it requires to work.

My advise: use Synaptic, that works on every of the large DEs.

#331 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Software MGR Doesn't Update Software & Software Isn't Found » 2024-01-09 18:39:16

Ok, your sources.list seems to be fine by now.

This Shutter definitely is no Cinnamon application, haven't got it here.

Try to get used to the console, or have a look at Synaptic.

#332 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Software MGR Doesn't Update Software & Software Isn't Found » 2024-01-09 17:52:30

No. daedalus main is present in line #1 and line #9 (counting every single line including the ones without contents). The order of the first 3 and last 3 lines is slightly different, but since parts of the info is present twice you get the warning.

I would recommend to add "contrib non-free non-free-firmware" to the first 3 lines for the full daedalus repos, and to delete all the rest from line 5 to the end. One empty line is required on the end of the file. I am running my PCs this way.

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

Some reading about the sources.list: https://www.devuan.org/os/packages

#333 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Software MGR Doesn't Update Software & Software Isn't Found » 2024-01-08 09:38:01

I tried to install GIMP using Synaptic Package Manager.

On Cinnamon Synaptic should work fine when the sources.list is setup correctly.

GIMP will show up in the Graphics section as Gnu Image Manipulation Program.

Please show us a

 $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list 

#334 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Software MGR Doesn't Update Software & Software Isn't Found » 2024-01-07 21:27:33

Which DE do you use? Is that KDE? Or something else?

Well, I am used to only use the console for updating my Devuan systems. I have a root terminal configured, and I am just entering:

# apt update
# apt full-upgrade 
# apt update 

Only once in a while I am using Synaptic as a graphics tool to search for packages. Works perfectly.

#335 Re: Devuan » Broken compatibility with recent upgrade » 2024-01-07 18:01:06

Look at here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6290 for some reading about the ongoing issues.

I left Daedalus on my main workstation w/o usrmerge, works fine so far. For a test I have merged Chimaera and Daedalus on my travelling laptop, so far also fine.

Where did you get these updates, testing?

#336 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Xorg not detecting keyboard or mouse in Excalibur/Ceres » 2024-01-07 16:08:55

Maybe you started off from Daedalus since neither Excalibur no ceres have any installation media. And when that entry isn't updated .... In any case the sources.list tells the truth.

Well, you laptop isn't brand new, so Daedalus should work fine. On the other hand a clean testing = Excalibur also might have some charms to you. But both will require a clean install, you won't be able to easily clean up the mixture you got.

#337 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Xorg not detecting keyboard or mouse in Excalibur/Ceres » 2024-01-07 15:10:04

When I read the available outputs its not Daedalus you are running but a mixture from Excalibur (Testing) and Ceres (Unstable). Don't know if that is a good idea. Issues to be expected?

Don't think that its related, but I would replace slim (deprecated) by lightdm.

Edith: sorry for my unqualified rant. Both my Excalibur only VM Lightdm/Mate and Lightdm/Cinnamon work fine.

#338 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-03 19:29:25

You should be able to configure the network manager to find wired and wireless connections.

#339 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-03 15:16:46

Status as of today:
* Crosscheck with a Bookworm VM shows that there the links from bin/sbin/lib are present.
* VM with a Chimaera installation that was upgraded from Beowulf does not show the links nor is the usrmerge package installed.
* Wrote a bug report against the installer, #824
* Manually converted the Chimaera VM and my two Excalibur VMs with different DEs to usrmerge. Links are present now. Chimaera went smooth, on the two Excalibur VMs I had to remove some files from /lib/udev.

#340 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-03 10:20:21

Would agree. I had the consolekit in the way on an older upgrade once, replaced by the elogind packages.

#341 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 21:56:24

Just tested a new Daedalus install in a VM: the installer fails to execute the usrmerge program when answering yes to the question. It never came to my mind that this might be the case. Its also no translation error (I am using German language), no matter if Y or N, no usrmerge. I executed it past the netinstall without mirror connection. Its executed and shown later by the links in Caja (MATE DE).

I guess I will file a bug report tomorrow.

#342 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-02 21:33:02

Show us a

# apt list libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 

BTW: have you executed a

# apt full-upgrade 

?

#343 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 20:21:50

Just crosschecked on an older PC in the basement that received a Daedalus installation from a released netinstall: no links, no usrmerge either?

Same on my Excalibur VM.

Question to the responsible for the installer, I this its Ralph Ronnquist: is it possible that the installer failed to execute the usrmerge program despite the answer was yes?

#344 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 20:13:12

To add my finding about the usrmerge package on my Daedalus installation which was installed more than one year ago from a preview when Daedalus still was Testing, where I answered the question during installation with yes:

# apt list usrmerge
Auflistung… Fertig
usrmerge/stable,stable 35 all 

This package obviously is not installed? What does this tell me? I am confused. According to a German web page I should see links from /bin, the /lib and /libxx folders and /sbin to the respective folders in /usr. I don't see any links.

#345 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 18:38:16

Well, maybe, you may got a valid point. As an experienced user I always use the netinstall media and expert install, never any live version, and never the simple install. Don't know what is questioned there.

Sorry, didn't consider that.

#346 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-02 17:51:23

I think the critical point is an upgrade of a non-merged system to a Devuan release which supports usr-merge. As far as I understand the upgrade process you end up with a non-merged Devuan. If you then apply the usr-merge package, you end up with programs in the wrong spot.

I did not mind the usr-merge like many of the participants in this discussion do, I accepted it as a ToDo for the future. I did my latest installations answering the usr-merge-question during the install from the first appearance onward with yes and had no issues with the operation of the systems nor the few release upgrades I did so far.

And from Debian 12 Bookworm onward usr-merge is mandatory and they have started to move packages. This then naturally applies for Debian 13 Trixie as well as for Devuan Daedalus and Excalibur. Have fun ...

#347 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Upgrade Beowulf to Chimaera / No Network-Manager (applet) » 2024-01-02 14:55:30

On my Chimaera laptop with Cinnamon DE I got as well network-manager as network-manager-gnome installed. AFAIR the installation past the DE went without any hasle with consolekit <> elogind, I am on elogind.

Looking at the dependencies: network-manager-gnome depends on network-manager.

#348 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How to fix unicode text, it's showing as a box » 2024-01-02 14:43:39

Ron wrote:

Do I select "All locales"?

You could but that would generate all locales on your PC which I guess you will not want. Just select the one(s) that are relevant for you. en_GB.utf8 or en_US.utf8? Or both?

#349 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fresh Installation of Devuan Wifi Not Working & Grub Issue » 2024-01-02 14:29:16

And not to forget: run an

# update-initramfs -u -k all

as root to tell the kernel to load this firmware.

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