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#2951 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-04 16:01:04
@cynwulf . . . you can get a better idea of which packages have been forked from this page. The Devuan Packages are those that have been specifically altered.
In addition there is a blacklist. Here is the one for ascii.
And these are the libsystemd packages in ascii which "shouldn't have to be forked at this point, since the library doesn't do anything if systemd is not there" (parazyd). Of course would be cleaner to have the detritus removed. All repackaging volunteers welcome!
So you can see that a LOT is going on that makes this a little more than just another derivative. 
#2952 Re: Forum Feedback » [Discussed] Documentation Section » 2017-11-04 15:29:38
I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting or what you tried to google. FluxBB does not have sub-forum capability. There is already cross-seeding between this forum and the the Friends of Devuan wiki. And as yet there is no Devuan Handbook.
#2953 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] Virtualbox guest additions - not working (Ascii) » 2017-11-04 03:05:19
Try ascii backports. It is in Debian stretch backports so should be in ascii's.
#2954 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 22:10:00
golinux wrote:I had a similar go around with another user here regarding ambivalent communication a while ago.
Did you mean ambiguous?
Yes I did. Been in bed most of the last 24 not feeling well and a little foggy. I'll go fix it.
#2955 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 21:16:51
Good lawwwddd....
I had a similar go around with another user here regarding ambiguous communication a while ago.
So it would seem that Devuan will effectively still be a "derivative" rather than a fork for the next release. It doesn't surprise me, as I've always thought that completely forking an entire distribution, especially one the size of Debian, was going to be a momentous task.
Devuan has forked major parts of Debian relating to systemd. Most of Debian repos remain unaffected and do not need to be forked at this time. In the future we may decide to host all those unaffected packages in a Devuan repo but for now merging with Debian is a more efficient way to do it.
#2956 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 18:49:16
Which is why I said equivalent to "testing" rather than any release code name.
"equivalent to the Debian testing branch" doesn't say that to me. Maybe "which is equivalent to Debian Stretch but still undergoing testing to systemd-free compatible environment"
Is ASCII based directly on the stretch repositories then...? I thought that after jessie, Devuan would go it a lone and develop a true fork?
Yes ascii is based more than 90% on Debian repos and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
#2957 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-03 14:53:14
You're also running "ASCII" which is the equivalent to the Debian testing branch. This is not a finished, stable release.
Not exactly. We are lagging behind the Debian cycle a bit. Ascii is equivalent to Debian Stretch which is now a stable release. Current Debian testing is Buster which will be our Beowulf once ascii stable is released.
#2958 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 20:52:49
If it's not "free", it's because of what you've added to it. A default Devuan install is indeed free software.
#2959 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-11-02 17:51:01
I suggested trying the wheezy version - Twoflower. Might be worth a try since it seems you're kind of at the end of the road . . .
#2960 Re: Other Issues » (SOLVED) Systemd Library in Ascii » 2017-11-01 16:47:23
Ha! Wasn't expecting this!
$ aptitude why libpulse0
i qemu-system-x86 Depends libpulse0 (>= 0.99.1)#2961 Re: Other Issues » (SOLVED) Systemd Library in Ascii » 2017-11-01 16:17:32
$ aptitude why libsystemd0
i libpulse0 Depends libsystemd0I think that vlc might need that. pulseaudio is not installed. But that's on jessie and Lydia_K cleared out most systemd deps. Rinse and repeat needed for ascii
#2962 Re: Other Issues » (SOLVED) Systemd Library in Ascii » 2017-11-01 14:54:12
Yes, libsystemd0 is passively there not doing anything (so far) but systemd is not. There are other remnants of systemd libs etc, scattered here and there like dead barnacles on a boat. Not ideal but not enough (wo)man power to clean out the cruft which requires it. This has been discussed MANY times over the years. Search on irc and dng etc.
#2963 Re: Off-topic » The decline and fall of the Linux forum » 2017-10-29 22:01:52
Yes. An oldie but goodie from before Devuan existed.
#2964 Re: Off-topic » The decline and fall of the Linux forum » 2017-10-29 20:56:50
Actually, I was thinking of this image.
#2966 Off-topic » The decline and fall of the Linux forum » 2017-10-29 19:07:08
- golinux
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cynwulf is new to this forum but he is not new to Linux. This overview of the changing Linux landscape is both cautionary and inspiring. As I read these essays, I laughed and I was saddened but more importantly, I was motivated! I don't want Devuan to fall victim to the mentality that got us into this mess in the first place. It's up to us individually and collectively to be the best that we can be to save the sinking ship. Enjoy!
The decline and fall of the Linux forum
The decline and fall of the Linux forum - Episode II: Initiation rights in the Linux dojo...
The decline and fall of the Linux forum - Episode III: The Microsoft 'x86 Monopoly'
The decline and fall of the Linux forum - Episode IV: Sadly Linux got popular
#2967 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » More Nouveau woes. » 2017-10-29 18:48:05
Sorry, for being rhetorical. I'm just not a hardware person. Luckily, onboard video works ootb here.
#2968 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-29 18:33:22
Hey, thanks for linking to d1g! There are already several DUFers over here and more always welcome.
#2969 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » More Nouveau woes. » 2017-10-29 18:31:27
Is anything ever a given in Linux?
#2970 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » More Nouveau woes. » 2017-10-29 18:16:51
And we can't help without a clue about your hardware.
#2971 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with the multimedia player VLC [Solved] » 2017-10-29 18:14:52
I never could get the VLC that comes with jessie to work properly so I installed the wheezy version - Twoflower - and it works just fine. If you're on ascii who knows.
#2972 Re: Installation » my new Devuan installation is so tiny that I cant connect to the forum » 2017-10-29 01:18:20
Have you tried netsurf? I haven't but it has been discussed on the dng mail list so search for it in the archives and repos.
#2973 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-28 23:24:49
fsmithred wrote:Maybe Dean will show up. He does that every once in a while.
Dean did make an appearance at DUF about 1 to 2 years back (?)... it was a new account (as ever), can't remember the name (perhaps "notquitethatsamemeanguyyetagain") then with a characteristic flourish, vanished into the smog, ever the typical enigmatic, leaving us all guessing...
He was actually there in April this year.
Note the interesting link posted in that thread that relates to the redis discussion on dng.
#2974 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-28 22:07:27
Fantastic!
#2975 Re: Other Issues » numix-icon-theme-circle how to install and configure on Devuan? » 2017-10-28 21:20:03
They could also go into an .icons directory in you user directory.
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