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#2876 Re: Devuan » [Closed] <Ascii> Release time » 2017-12-16 08:27:22
The same old same old BS and this time from an unknown person who has not a clue how to design a website. makh, you need to get a life . . .
Anyways, whats holding the Stable release of Ascii, despite now debian current progress to the 4th point release?
You really have no idea what it takes to do what we're doing do you . . .
#2877 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2017-12-15 23:40:53
Have you seen this? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=549
Since we're back on topic, I guess I'll move the last two posts back to the original thread if there are no objections.
#2878 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-15 04:07:30
Split the personal chatter to Off Topic and forgot to leave a link. Sorry . . .
#2879 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2017-12-15 00:23:45
I sure hope nobody is giving you stick because you are female.
Good grief no! The devs here don't think in terms of chromosome hierarchy.
#2880 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-14 02:44:53
I did use apt-get to get the lm-sensors source package, so it would have been a Devuan source package.
Oh . . . that's a good thing then. 
You didn't miss anything, I normally talk to people who are not pedantic enough, and stuff slipped.
There are pedants here and especially on the dng list. I am not one of them. I am a gui-girl who couldn't package my way out of a paper bag. I do a pretty good job of playing with crayons though . . . 
What differences can be realised between a Debian package, and a Devuan package?
The thing we're most concerned with is removing systemd dependencies. But there are also versioning differences that make packages compatible with the Devuan repos for continuity of upgrading.
I am unqualified to comment on the rest of what you posted.
#2881 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-14 00:52:59
It is not recommended to use Debian packages except those that have been monitored by amprolla for Devuan. Even if it seems to work, you will not get security or other updates via Devuan and there may be incompatible changes as Devuan moves forward. Was lm-sensors not in the Devuan repos? Maybe in backports or ascii? (Apologies if I missed something above)
#2882 Re: Other Issues » Question on kernel upgrades » 2017-12-13 22:16:51
My jessie does not save older kernels - at least they're not listed at boot. I would like to know what grub file needs to be tweaked to tell grub to save 2 kernels. Used to be easy to do that with the old grub. This is not progress . . .
#2883 Re: Other Issues » Software packages aging issue » 2017-12-12 17:07:02
Shiny new is greatly over-rated. Devuan Jessie will be available until Debian Jessie LTS expires in 2020. If you want something newer, upgrade to ascii or ceres (which you can think of as a rolling release). It is certainly possible to install openrc on ascii and will likely become the default in following releases. Devuan will never be a rolling release because we value stability. Perhaps you are in the wrong camp. Why exactly are you here?
(I won't state the obvious)
#2884 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-12 01:01:57
I hope I didn't offend fsmithred.
He is pretty unoffendable . . .
#2885 Re: Off-topic » Firefox Quantum » 2017-12-11 20:29:14
FreeBSD might have taken care of the problem. Did you check for apulse?
#2886 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-10 21:25:44
So happy to hear that you're making progress! Your persistence is impressive. Guess we're just a stubborn bunch in this camp.
#2887 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » configure scanner brother dcp197c » 2017-12-10 20:10:55
Do you have CUPS installed? Unless your hardware is really new, that should do it.
#2888 Re: Documentation » some Devuan wiki? » 2017-12-09 19:18:21
golinux wrote:When did you register?
2017-09-23
As yeti?
golinux wrote:Try to catch FlibberTGibbet on irc.
Ok.
I think that msiism and blinkdog also are admins now too.
Installing some traps soon... :-)
Spam traps are much needed. Work it out with those mentioned above. You could even email them via this forum.
#2889 Re: Documentation » some Devuan wiki? » 2017-12-09 17:01:11
Due to spammers, all new users are moderated. When did you register? Try to catch FlibberTGibbet on irc.
#2890 Re: Installation » Stable repositories for adding and updating the entire system! » 2017-12-08 23:56:56
Please post your current sources.list
#2891 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-08 21:27:29
@ghaverla . . . looking forward to your report of how it went.
fsmithred to the rescue yet again!!
#2892 Re: News & Announcements » Amprolla3 is out for testing » 2017-12-08 06:45:39
There is one thing that I have yet to understand out of all this mystic repository structure.
merged
The merged repo pulls in the filtered, unaltered pkgs from Debian that are allowed into Devuan.
What exactly is merged? A selective Debian repository mirror with a Devuan repository?
If so, what edition of a Debian repository is used?
Devuan jessie pulls from Debian jessie (oldstable)
Devuan ascii pulls from Debian stretch (current stable)
Devuan ceres is Debian sid (unstable)
Is Devuan really a rolling distribution?
I suppose that ceres could be considered a rolling distro.
After all this time I am clueless in answering these questions.
No kidding!
#2893 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-08 06:35:18
@ghaverta . . . The ascii isos are only unofficially available atm. It's unlikely the Jessie ones will be compatible with newer hardware. Maybe with a backported 4.9 kernel . . .
#2894 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-08 03:58:38
One of the Devuan devs reported this a few weeks ago:
Ran a refracta ascii snapshot with 4.12 on an AMD Ryzen7 bench test system with ECC ram and ECC works properly!!!
fsmithred is providing some unofficial ascii isos. Hopefully he'll leave some urls for you here.
#2895 Re: Installation » Is Devuan Ryzen? » 2017-12-08 02:52:04
ascii is not buster.
beowulf will mirror buster
ascii mirrors stretch
So it is not currently possible to upgrade from debian buster to anything devuan except maybe ceres (sid)
#2896 Re: Installation » luakit » 2017-12-07 22:02:31
@oui . . . I am a native English speaker and I didn't understand it either. There are several languages muddled in there.
#2897 Re: News & Announcements » eudev is now in ascii » 2017-12-07 18:31:06
Currently the version #s are a bit muddled. Some pkgs in experimental need to be deleted. It's all explained here especially towards the end.
#2898 Re: DIY » The hunt for a good browser 2017 edition » 2017-12-06 06:41:45
@chillfan . . . Didn't we start saving some XUL extensions quite a while ago? Do you still have those somewhere? I'm still hoping they will come in handy at some point.
#2899 Re: Other Issues » Wireless issues » 2017-12-03 18:20:03
That post is short on specifics. What are you using to connect? What driver do you have installed for what hardware? Could we see your sources.list? I'm only wired so can't help much but I know that info would be useful to find a solution.
#2900 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2017-12-03 18:12:12
Donate an ARM development board (50$-100$) (contact parazyd parazyd@dyne.org / #devuan-arm)
Donate an ARM or ARM64 build host (50$-200$) (contact parazyd parazyd@dyne.org / #devuan-arm)
Donate a MIPS board (50$-200$) (contact parazyd parazyd@dyne.org)
It would be great to have a list of which boards are needed, and how they could be used.
I haven't seen anything more specific than that. Just a few weeks ago parazyd asked me to add this to the Donate page of devuan.org:
. . . ARM or MIPS boards or PowerPC/Sparc hardware
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