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golinux wrote:Oh dear...
Some people should at least stick to software ideologies.
As you know, I'm not a Devuan user (or a Debian or Linux user) and you've known my opinions on this project from day one (so once again, thank you for tolerating my continued presence)
You are always welcome in this house. Your experience and ability to see the big picture as in this post adds real value to our collective effort.
. . . but any project founded on "anti" sentiment is pretty much doomed from the start.
We try to frame it otherwise but have no control over others' views and opinions.
This forum seems to be keeping it technical, it's getting it right thus far
Thanks. We're trying our best.
. . .it surprises me that such crap is being posted on the mailing lists...
Since that meltdown there has been almost none of that. The moon must have been in a weird phase or something. These days there is an occasional snipe but most discussion is technical and cordial.
The devs working on pkgmaster don't frequent this forum so you are the sound of one hand clapping. If you don't post the info elsewhere - DNG, bugs.devuan.org or irc channels - those who should be seeing it never will. That's what you'll need to do if you actually want to contribute instead of just complaining . . .
fungus wrote:I want nothing to do with DNG premadonas and their tolerance to neonazis and intolerance to those who tried to block neonazi propaganda and got the boot from the list!!!! REMEMBER! We do not forget we don't forgive, easily!
Links or it didn't happen.
I want nothing to do with DNG premadonas and their tolerance to neonazis and intolerance to those who tried to block neonazi propaganda and got the boot from the list!!!! REMEMBER! We do not forget we don't forgive, easily!
Then you will have a miserable life, my friend. Aren't you now Fungal-net on DNG?
I am sure your consciousness will not keep this a secret from them, as it has been YOU and Katolaz who have come here and ensured us that pkgmaster is fully bug-free and the onion address had for a while being identical to http-pkgmaster.
IT ISN't
http pkpmaster was showing 0 upgrades, 0 to be removed, 0 to be installed.
Only change was https and onion address part in source.list .... then it all went to hell like I had changed distributions.
This has been identified and reported here on the forum several times already and YOUR response was something done wrong by me.
Then file a bug report with the needed information.
Go ask for me to be unblocked on the list and I will happily copy paste this in their face!
And the neonazi polak propagandist better not be there!
I don't even see you on the DNG member list anymore.
Maybe go take a nap and get out of the other side of the bed when you wake up.
That's because you're posting in the wrong place. Try posting to DNG.
surf2 is in the devuan repos but perhaps not the main ones.
You should be more concerned about Palemoon's licensing than Devuan's. Though MX may have taken care of that for you.
If you don't support systemd, why would you be promoting it? *scratches head* BTW, "rude" is a personal judgment with no factual basis.
Hello guys, I see that UKUI is systemd based... Didn't know that thanks!
If you're promoting an OS how can you or the writer of that blog not know something so basic? I searched for "UKUI systemd" and nothing came up. fungus dug a little deeper. Users who think like this treat their computer as an APPLIANCE and really don't give a toss what's under the hood. These are the same mindless users that take whatever MS or UKUI gives them. Mainstreaming Linux for users like that will be its undoing.
Just FYI . . . an oldie but goodie
KDE is a bit broken in Jessie. We're hoping to have it working in Ascii. Please see this mail thread for discussion. You might want to join the ML for the most up-to-date progress reports. You might also consider upgrading to ascii to help with the testing.
Thanks. It's obviously a non-starter here.
Through many funky desktop environments there are themes that simulate the aesthetics of Win XP,vista.7,8,10 and if people like this to adopt from one system to the other I find nothing wrong with them.
It attracts a certain mindset. Just look how that has worked out for Debian, Ubuntu etc. - a slow side downhill into a consumer-oriented winland parallel universe.
The fact that off the start the crappy desktop fork is loaded with systemd, pulse, gnome etc. is enough to not want to know much about it.
There was no mention of systemd in that stupid blog. And there's little that Google could find. Is this an assumption or fact?
If someone finds it important enough to make it systemd-free so it would be functional 100% in Devuan I don't see why that would be bad.
Why? We already have Mate.
When you hear people saying that without systemd this and that will not work and that is their justification for not wanting to try anything but a systemd based system, then the more that works without it the less of a logical argument those trolls have.
This troll mentioned nothing of systemd so how could there be an argument about it?
Meet The New Linux Desktop Environment Inspired by Windows 7? Hahahaha!!!
Probably the wrong audience to ask that question. There is not much love for either Ubuntu or Windows in this camp. Personally I would NEVER use anything that reminded me of either one. But I see where that might be an asset for those want turning Linux into a Windows style OS for the drooling masses.
@spartrekus.git . . . why exactly are you here?
And I don't even remember where I posted that I would contact dev1fanboy about something related to sans-dbus. I can tell that I tried (and contacted wrong Devuaner instead -- Ralph Ronquest I PM'ed, having mixed the nicknames somehow...
Hi miroR . . . I sent a short email to dev1fanboy asking him to have a look at your post..
golinux wrote:@fungus . . . possibly PEBKAC?
What is PEBKAC?
That is sooo cool!
@fungus . . . possibly PEBKAC?
I thought that could be done with pinning. Search for "downgrade" on this forum and the botbot logs for irc freenode #devuan.
This post is a bit old but if you have a troublesome 'skylake' chip, this may have something relevant:
This brings up the issue of Flatpaks as an alternative to AppImages. Is it possible to use Flatpaks and ensure that systemd stays off my system?
A two minute search found this:
Is Flatpak tied to systemd?
No. Versions of flatpak before 0.6.10 relied on systemd for cgroups setup, but this is no longer required.]
However, this is not so encouraging - guilty by association:
Its lead developer is Alex Larsson, Principal Engineer at Red Hat.
I think they took lessons from tapatalk. Stylish will let you change all the colors. Or just hide those elements with AdBlock Plus
Makes my eyes bleed . . .
(golinux bites her tongue)
golinux wrote:FYI, mantras are a cultural appendage to Buddhism not Buddhism.
Perhaps it's my warped sense of humor, but your literal and hardline stance cracks me up.
Awwwww . . . that's sweet.
I think I'll stay away from any more Buddhism stuff, because I'm not Buddhicipherous enough to know what's what.
You have a lot of company.
Please don't take it personally . . .
Perhaps you want to move on to mushroom humor?