lxde is another metapackage. Same with xfce4. You can install xfce4-session, xfdesktop4 and thunar without pulling in libsystemd0. Also, remove lxde and install the parts you want. Here's the list of packages with lxde in the name.

aptitude search lxde
p   education-desktop-lxde                                - Debian Edu LXDE desktop applications                           
p   live-image-lxde-desktop                               - Live System Image Components (LXDE desktop)                    
p   live-task-lxde                                        - Live environment support for Lxde                              
p   lxde                                                  - Metapackage for LXDE                                           
p   lxde-common                                           - LXDE common configuration files                                
p   lxde-core                                             - Metapackage for the LXDE core                                  
i   lxde-icon-theme                                       - LXDE standard icon theme                                       
v   lxde-session                                          -                                                                
v   lxde-settings-daemon                                  -                                                                
p   openbox-lxde-session                                  - LXDE session manager and configuration files                   
p   task-lxde-desktop                                     - LXDE 

You can check what will be installed along with any package by adding the -s option. (apt-get -s install <packages> or aptitude -s install <packages>)

I think the problem is task-xfce-desktop or some other metapackage that depends on a bunch of things, even if some of the components don't require all those things. For example, a normal xfce desktop will include gvfs and gvfs-daemons. The latter requires libsystemd0, but the rest of xfce does not. If all those items were installed under a metapackage, then removing any part will remove them all.

You might get away with just 'apt-get remove task-xfce-desktop'. But things might get marked for autoremoval. The ones you want to keep can be installed (or reinstalled?) manually, before they are removed. (it's either apt-get install <package> or apt-get --reinstall install <package>). The package will be marked as manually installed, and it wil bel un-marked for autoremoval.

It's not clear to me what you're doing in the above. I don't use guided partitioning, but I thought it was not possible to change the settings that the partitioner uses. That's what manual partiioning is for. You should be able to make  /boot and / partitions without encryption. I know I did it with the beta1, but I haven't tried it with the beta2.

250mb for /boot should be more than enough unless you're planning to do something unusual.

Wow. I read the article. That's a lot to digest. I've been using firejail for a few months, but just with the default settings. I also tried it with firetools, a graphical front end, but I didn't like it. Couldn't figure out how to edit the menu to show just the apps I wanted to use. So I wrote my own front end.

firemenu is a bash script that uses yad for a graphical front end. It presents a list of applications that have firejail profiles, and you can filter the list to just show the apps you normally use.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … nu-1.2.deb
https://github.com/fsmithred/firemenu

I see it, too. It's a gtk-3 issue. Yad-0.37 (from ascii) uses gtk-3. I guess it automatically highlights the first choice. I can reverse the order of fs types in the script.

@dzz:
I announced a devuan-based refracta release on Oct. 30, 2015. Before that, there was a Refracta with xfce based on systemd-free debian jessie that you put together while I was stalling. Before that was a systemd-free debian-based refracta with openbox that would not have happened without your help. You were the trailblazer in those interesting times.

I don't know the timelines on the other devuan derivatives, but I am glad that we all exist, and I think it's good that we have this place to meet and compare notes.

You're already there. If you're doing regular updates, the beta2 won't give you anything you don't already have. I don't know if there will be point releases after jessie is stable. I think the focus will be shifting to ascii when that happens. Stretch is already in freeze and will probably be stable before the flowers bloom in the northern hemisphere.

One thing the beta2 isos will give you that the beta1 didn't do was install from the media without a network connection. The beta1 isos only did netinstall. That's been fixed.

If you installed without a mirror, then no mirror will be in sources.list. You would need to plug in your install media to add programs, or else you need to add some sources. Uncomment the lines for jessie-security and jessie-updates in /etc/apt/sources.list and add

deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main

and then

apt-get update

Then you should be able to install from the repo.

To get a wired connection when you plug the ethernet cable in after you've booted, as root, run

dhclient eth0

I ran into this today installing from the DVD image and tried to work around it with

cp /cdrom/firmware/*  /target/lib/firmware/ 
chroot /target
dpkg -i /lib/firmware/firmware-realtek*.deb

then tried to get the installer to see the wireless interface. It wouldn't do it, so I just finished the install.

On reboot, I found that I needed to install wicd, so I plugged in a wire, added wicd, and the wireless interface is working.