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#2751 Re: Documentation » Make a mirror of devuan package repository with a modified debmirror » 2018-02-23 23:35:30

I guess you didn't see the response to your bug report.  I assume that was written by KatolaZ:

Your bug report is not that useful, since you must include the
relevant content of the debmirror.conf file that you are using.

In order to mirror only devuan-specific suites in ascii for amd64,
your debmirror.conf should have something like:

$host="pkgmaster.devuan.org";
$remoteroot="devuan";
$download_method="http";
@dists="ascii";
@sections="main,main/debian-installer,contrib,non-free";
@arches="amd64";

I have tried it now myself with:

$ debmirror -p --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg ./devuan-only

and it works.

So sounds like PEBKAC.

#2752 Re: Documentation » Make a mirror of devuan package repository with a modified debmirror » 2018-02-23 15:37:03

Devuan filters the Debian packages.  If you use Debian packages directly, chances are that eventually something will slip in and break your system or you won't be able to upgrade properly.

#2753 Re: Other Issues » in ASCII, libpolkit-agent-1-0 and policykit-1 held back? [SOLVED] » 2018-02-23 04:20:15

This has been discussed on the dng mail list and the irc channels and even this forum.  Unfortunately I don't understand it well enough to explain it.   IIRC it only happens on an upgrade, not a new install.  The devs are working hard to sort things so that the needed files are deleted/delivered under every possible circumstance.

#2754 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-23 00:22:59

yeti wrote:
golinux wrote:

You are not the only one using a language other than English.  If it were a problem in Devuan many more people would be bringing it to our attention.

I have multiple Debian2s which have Grub, LightDM and XFCE in German.
What's the problem to test?

The rant starts here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7681#p7681

#2755 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-22 21:57:49

mckaygerhard wrote:
golinux wrote:

If it's a Debian problem the bug report(s) should go upstream not here.

be update men!

I have no idea what that means but next time try (wo)men.

in debian problem was gone away many time ago,  its now a serious problem in devuan due in debian only the interface have that problems, but in devuan problems are in the keyboard, in the display manager and also in the user environment

You are not the only one using a language other than English.  If it were a problem in Devuan many more people would be bringing it to our attention.

#2756 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-22 20:35:02

greenjeans wrote:
fungus wrote:

gksu gksudo will be removed from debian repositories.

Well good lord, does the stupid never end?

It stops here.  We can fork those those functions.  big_smile

#2757 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-22 19:20:34

If it's a Debian problem the bug report(s) should go upstream not here.

#2758 Re: Off-topic » "I am devuan" advertisement » 2018-02-17 17:01:33

Looks more like a Libre Office advert to me.   Why not get it from the Devuan repos?

#2759 News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-15 19:26:20

golinux
Replies: 56

Dear dev1rs

On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release
of Devuan Jessie [1] just a few months after the Veteran Unix Admins
declared their intention to fork Debian on November 27th 2014 [2].
That was the beginning of our collective journey. Now, three years later,
Valentine's day has more love for the Devuan community.  The long-awaited
release of Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta (minor planet nr. 3568) is here!

## So what's new in Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta?

- OpenRC is installable using the expert install path (thanks Maemo Leste!)
- eudev has replaced systemd-udev (thanks Gentoo!)
- elogind has been added as an alternative to consolekit (thanks Gentoo!)
- Desktop users can choose among fully functional XFCE (Default), KDE,
  Cinnamon, LXQT, MATE, and LXDE desktops
- CLI-oriented users can select the "Console productivity" task that installs
  a fully-featured set of console-based utils and tools.
- A .vdi disk image is now provided for use with VirtualBox.
- ARM board kernels have been updated to 4.14 and 4.15 for most boards.

Read the entire announcement

#2762 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Upgrade warning for Miyo-XTRA Ascii (?) 2018/02/10 » 2018-02-12 22:42:37

MiyoLinux wrote:
golinux wrote:

I used to always have to do that.  Now Devuan comes personalized to my preferences.  LOL!

Hmmm...sounds almost as though you designed it or something. tongue

LOL!

Who?  Me?  LOL!

#2763 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Upgrade warning for Miyo-XTRA Ascii (?) 2018/02/10 » 2018-02-12 19:24:52

MiyoLinux wrote:

The desktop base (that included elogind) changed the custom grub screen background that I'd made for Miyo. It became the Dark Purpy background. It actually blends in pretty well...but I changed it back. tongue

Yes, desktop-base provides the default theme from boot to the desktop.

My philosophy has always been to let Miyo be Devuan. I don't blacklist any packages in case a user wants to use them. The themes may be wanted by users...and yes, I also hack on the desktop base grub screen background and theme text. wink

I used to always have to do that.  Now Devuan comes personalized to my preferences.  LOL!

#2764 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Upgrade warning for Miyo-XTRA Ascii (?) 2018/02/10 » 2018-02-11 17:43:01

Isn't there a way to blacklist a package?  But then I suppose not having elogind could break other stuff like if someone is dual booting Miyo and KDE.  You really should be interacting with the devs about this maybe on irc.

#2765 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Upgrade warning for Miyo-XTRA Ascii (?) 2018/02/10 » 2018-02-11 02:11:07

Did you install the new Devuan key before trying to upgrade?

#2766 Re: Other Issues » Unable to format sdcard » 2018-02-05 21:05:14

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question but I can welcome you to the forum as our 500th member!!

#2767 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-05 17:08:49

fungus wrote:
deb tor://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii main contrib non-free
deb tor://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii-updates  main contrib non-free
deb tor://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii-security main contrib non-free
# deb tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free
# deb tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates  main contrib non-free
# deb tor://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main contrib non-free

That helped to clarify the issue.  This is the tor address on devuan.org.  Please notice the deb tor+http://

deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged jessie          main
deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged jessie-updates  main
deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged jessie-security main

If you just replace jessie with ascii without altering it in any other way, I was advised that tor will work perfectly.

Also please  remove tor:// when using pkgmaster and use http in that case.

HND

#2768 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-05 02:45:34

fungus wrote:

Is devuanfwojg73k6r.onion = pkgmaster.devuan.org ?

<golinux>  Is and has the onion address of the repository been forwarded to pkgmaster
<KatolaZ> yes

KatolaZ requested that you post your sources.list.  Have any other repositories EVER been used on the ascii installations tested? 

Don't shoot the messenger.  I have never expressed a technical assessment on your issue because I have never used tor in conjunction with a repository.  Heck, I've barely used tor at all!  Without that experience I am unqualified to have an opinion or comprehend because I have no point of reference.  Instead, I have attempted to point you in the direction of those who could better help you sort things out.

#2769 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-04 18:59:08

Please post your sources.list . . . all of it.

#2770 Re: Forum Feedback » Crossing the line or not? » 2018-02-04 18:11:20

These last three posts should be in the "pkgmaster is repository hell" thread.  I am unable to rejoin them to that existing thread so they have been split off to "pkgmaster is repository hell (continued)"

#2771 Re: Other Issues » updating with SPM-Synaptic » 2018-02-04 17:08:31

Comment out the cdrom media in your sources.list and then synaptic should go to the live repositories.

#2772 Re: Installation » pkgmaster is repository hell (continued) » 2018-02-04 16:11:58

2018-01-30 00:04:43 fsmithred: KatolaZ, I think I said pretty much the same thing on that thread.
2018-01-30 00:05:19 fsmithred: Only advantage I can see for https is if you don't want ISP or government to know what you're installing.
2018-01-30 00:06:06 fsmithred: which might be a legitimate concern for a few people
2018-01-30 00:13:40 FoxMuldV6: also think public wifi at starbucks or in a hotel.
2018-01-30 00:30:54 KatolaZ: fsmithred: didn't have much time to go through the whole thread tbh
2018-01-30 00:30:58 KatolaZ: got tired pretty early
2018-01-30 00:31:07 KatolaZ: read it diagonally
2018-01-30 00:31:24 KatolaZ: and spotted those inaccuracies in the reasoning . . .
2018-01-30 00:33:55 KatolaZ: FoxMuldV6: so what? your fello coffee-addicts can get to know that you installed nano?
2018-01-30 00:33:58 KatolaZ: o_O
2018-01-30 00:35:22 FoxMuldV6: I'm sure with the right distro there is bound to be a package 'pornhub-collection', and it's really noone's business when I install that! :-p
2018-01-30 00:35:45 KatolaZ: FoxMuldV6: big_smile
2018-01-30 00:36:07 KatolaZ: they should first break wifi auth
2018-01-30 00:36:40 KatolaZ: then manage to do an arp-spoofing with the gateway....
2018-01-30 00:37:00 KatolaZ: and/or
2018-01-30 00:37:04 KatolaZ: depending on the ap config
2018-01-30 00:37:21 KatolaZ: (normally LAN communication is not enabled by default)
2018-01-30 00:42:02 fsmithred: my main concern is that he said the onion address only works intermittently. So I'm testing it.
2018-01-30 00:42:47 fsmithred: oh, and that he gets different results whether he uses tor or not
2018-01-30 00:43:28 KatolaZ: fsmithred: that's quite unlikely
2018-01-30 00:43:36 KatolaZ: I have tested both http and https
2018-01-30 00:43:39 KatolaZ: and they are the same
2018-01-30 00:43:44 fsmithred: same here
2018-01-30 00:43:50 KatolaZ: just asked parazyd who has confirmed that http, https, and onion are the same
2018-01-30 00:43:53 KatolaZ: SO
2018-01-30 00:44:27 KatolaZ: the problem is probably elsewhere
2018-01-30 00:44:50 fsmithred: I was taught to check whether anyone else has the problem or if someone knows what I did wrong before I file a bug report
2018-01-30 00:46:35 KatolaZ: I would rather invest the time to fix anna/net-retriever for d-i smile
2018-01-30 00:46:51 KatolaZ: it's more useful to a much larger number of devuan users wink
2018-01-30 00:50:44 parazyd: it's literally impossible to get different results with https/http/tor if you're using pkgmaster in all 3
2018-01-30 00:52:42 KatolaZ: well, the only possibility is that there is a glitch on the debian side
2018-01-30 00:52:45 KatolaZ: with tor
2018-01-30 00:52:55 KatolaZ: which happened a couple of times, months ago
2018-01-30 00:57:18 parazyd: still no reason to get updates with tor and no updates through http(s)

#2773 Re: Other Issues » Becoming a Devuan Maintainer (cut) » 2018-02-04 02:31:05

stanz wrote:

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  * Log me in automatically each time I visit.

Thats what I get. Is that not just a 'lifetime cookie' thing?

Yes, it is a cookie.  If you come regularly, I think it keeps renewing because I never get logged out of any of the forums I frequent daily.

Never thought of it as keeping one logged in... ? smile
Will try it ~ Thx

I hope that it works for you.  Please let us know.

#2774 Re: Other Issues » Becoming a Devuan Maintainer (cut) » 2018-02-04 01:53:59

stanz wrote:
golinux wrote:

I had a better Subject, but taking to long lost it.

If you click the option to stay logged in, you won't get bit by the timeout issue.

Pray`Tell...where is that option to click?  smile

On the login screen just under where you enter your password.  It says:

Log me in automatically each time I visit.

That keeps you logged in if you visit here regularly.   I suppose there would eventually be a timeout but certainly not during a session.

#2775 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-02-03 22:31:16

Am I supposed to know who that is?

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