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. . . a revised, libre-oriented installer.
There has been talk recently (not related the current rants which most of the devs won't even see) about Devuan releasing a 'Libre' version possibly for Ascii in addition to what is now offered. The various components are scattered here and there. Just need to be collected and glued together. Unfortunately, most of us lack the skills to help with that so it remains on the to-do list . . .
Geesh . . . I was just trying to help but that will likely be the last time.
Just something to think about . . . very few things in this world are under our 'control'. The control that we do have is in the mind that perceives the uncontrollable. There is truth in what you say but it has taken you down quite a rabbit hole. Please stop trying to pull us in with you. Wasted bits and bytes . . .
Since the Jessie - Ascii upgrade the icons are a bit, er, loud, but editing the setting/Themes, I can select "Tango" which seems to offer nice icons, without changing the overall theme.
Geoff
These have been done for some time but not yet been packaged for ascii. Hopefully this weekend. Enjoy if the color suits you! https://dev1galaxy.org/files/DarkPurpy-links.tar.gz
Here's a suggestion . . . do you know that devuan has no-systemd version of tails?
https://heads.dyne.org/about.html
That might suit you perfectly.
No one would ever divulge my IQ to me so it will remain a mystery to the end of time. But I'm confident it's above room temperature. LOL!
Ever consider a walk in the woods or on the beach?
Nothing like violence to unwind.
Good grief . . .
Congrats! Are you a scruffy old graybeard? You probably look too intelligent to be chosen.
You do like to chew on a dry bone, don't you. No need to keep repeating yourself in 101 variations.
I believe in choice. I also believe pressing the wrong key would be operator error.
Yes to both of these statements. Forcing non-free is as offensive as limiting its availability. Crusaders are entitled to their opinion but it is just that. The choice to use or not use non-free is the USER's. ATM, that part of the installer is being carefully scrutinized, tested and updated to ensure consistency. As to pressing the wrong key . . . who of us hasn't done that a time or two. You take your lumps and move on. But it's PEBKAC, not the installer's fault.
You might want to read this. It doesn't answer your specific question but it will help you understand why some (non-functional) systemd files may be on your computer. If someone has the time and skill all those unsightly (but non-functional) deps could be removed from the offending apps and be repackaged.
Thank you very much for all those commands (that I didn't know the existence of).
I wasn't able yet to successfully install any version of Devuan on my computer (I'm waiting for the next stable release, that should be as functional on my computer as Debian 9) - but, I've tested all those commands in Debian already, and they work very well.
(That's a great way, then, to clear any doubts as to what type of software one has had installed on his/her computer.)
Self-verification should put your mind at ease. In the meantime, please just take a deep breath and try not to let your imagination take you down paths that are stressful for you and waste all our time and energy.
You might find this discussion informative.
Have you tried the ascii beta which is forked from Debian Stretch?
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/
Happy to hear it all worked out. ![]()
I remember hearing about issues with rufus. Search this forum and quite a few posts reference it. Might be something in there to help you sort things
refracta2usb also allows for persistence. Don't know how current it is though. Maybe fsmithred will stop by:
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/re … ta2usb.txt
Yes. We know them. I will pass along your message.
In Xfce (don't know about Mate) there is a separate option for choosing the window manager apart from the theme that changes the title bar. You don't have to be stuck with gnome.
Maybe a compositing issue?
That's the way desktop icons work here on Xfce. Old icon remains until new positioning is completed.
I do recall reading of problems keeping themes going in GTK3, so it was interesting to see MSI's link.
Since I've been doing the theming, I've been dealing with this for years. It is a royal pain.
Following Golinux' post, I installed Clearlooks-Phenix and as described, the scrollbars in Synaptic work nicely, although they are still pop-up, but I can probably live with that.
Fixing the scrollbars was a major headache. Thanks to fsmithred for his contributions to making that happen. You might find something in this thread to help you sort your synaptic scrollbars.
While the Clearlook-Phenix-Dark-Purpy does also work well, I do find it a bit, er, dark . . .
That's to match the darkpurpy default desktop wallpaper. ![]()
I was interested to see that Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy does not work so well with the scrollbar or with toolbar buttons, but I do notice that it is at an earlier version number.
The purpy theme was for Jessie and used a different version of GTK3 (which is a moving target). It does not work well in ASCII.
Thank you for your info and help
YW
GTK3 and Adwaita theme sucks. Clearlooks is GTK2 only so won't handle the GTK3 in synaptic. The standard scrollbars are shown by default in the Clearlooks-Phenix and the (improved) Clearlooks-Phenix-Dark-Purpy themes which work with GTK2 and GTK3.
@Geoff 42 . . . Indeed. As to the harpsichord . . . maybe lasted about 2 min. and I was outta there . . . ![]()