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#2476 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Security updates for devuan jessie » 2017-08-14 18:47:47

Ogis1975 wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

In fact, you won't get 60 in ascii or stretch, either. It's 59 there. Chromium-60 is in ceres/sid.

Hello. You are wrong . Chromium version in Stretch is 60.0.3112.78

I'm not entirely wrong. 59 is in stretch and 60 is in stretch-security, which I did not enable. Guess I should do that if I want to see all versions.

About mixing repos: I don't know what these other folks are running, but I always disable all the extra repos before I install anything or upgrade. They are only enabled so I can see all versions with 'apt-cache policy <package>'.

#2477 Re: Documentation » Install eudev in ascii » 2017-08-14 18:37:58

I don't know if this works in ceres. If you're brave enough to try it, please let us know what happens.

lxde is still around and will still be around for awhile. It has not been abandoned. I either read that somewhere or was told that by one of the devs or maintainers for lxde in irc. (Can't remember name or which irc channel, but it must have been #devuan or #devuan-dev.)

lxqt is also around. I'm not sure, but I think it exists because gtk is losing its mind, and lxqt will be there when gtk3 finally goes totally insane.

#2478 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken » 2017-08-14 18:23:38

FYI
Debian/Devuan uses runlevels 2-5 for multi-user graphical, with 2 as the default. RedHat and SuSE refugees are confused and annoyed by this.

Single-user is runlevel 1. If you want a runlevel that's multi-user non-graphical (like 2 or 3 in rh or suse) disable the display manager in one runlevel. (3 is most commonly used for this)

Correction: Debian doesn't use runlevels anymore.

#2479 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Slim and build settings » 2017-08-14 11:29:41

My Xwrapper.config (in ascii) has these lines:

needs_root_rights=yes
allowed_users=console

I'm using slim-1.3.6-5+devuan4rc5a1

I just did update/upgrade, and everything is still working correctly.

Update: I upgraded another installation. This one was a refracta jessie that got upgraded to ascii, and then I replaced lightdm with the same version of slim I named above. The Xwrapper.config in this system only has the one line (like yours) and everything still works.

allowed_users=console

#2480 Documentation » Install eudev in ascii » 2017-08-14 10:09:01

fsmithred
Replies: 12

To replace udev with eudev in devuan ascii, do the following:

Add experimental repo to sources.list.

deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main

Update the cache and install eudev:

apt-get update
apt-get -t experimental install eudev

Now would be a good time to reboot.

If you want to remove eudev and reinstall udev, you will need to specify the version of libudev1 to downgrade it.:

apt-get install udev libudev1=232-25+deb9u1

Note: if that is not the correct version of libudev1, you can get it from

apt-cache policy libudev1

#2481 Re: DIY » live-sdk - can't build image » 2017-08-13 23:43:57

Parazyd explained to me that debootstrap is now in extra so that it's available for other distros. I haven't tried that new version yet.

I think this is your problem here:

xorriso : FAILURE : Given path does not exist on disk: -boot_image system_area='/usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin'

It's not finding isohdpfx.bin. If it's not in /usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin then install live-build. More likely, the /usr part of the path got lost from the xorriso command, which is probably in the blend file. (if not, it's in lib/libdevuansdk/zlibs/iso  line 109 or so, but you really shouldn't change it there.)

#2482 Re: Installation » OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii » 2017-08-13 23:29:52

I installed openrc in ascii today after I got the deb packages from Svante. I see you already uploaded them. I did, too - http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/openrc/
(I'll use your links below, but if those don't work for someone, they can replace them with the ibiblio address)

Here's what I did, in a nutshell:

Add to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed  main

Download debs:

for amd64

wget https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/Devuan-OpenRC/libfdisk1_2.29.2-1+devuan1_amd64.deb
wget https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/Devuan-OpenRC/util-linux_2.29.2-1+devuan1_amd64.deb

for i386

wget https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/Devuan-OpenRC/libfdisk1_2.29.2-1+devuan1_i386.deb
wget https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/Devuan-OpenRC/util-linux_2.29.2-1+devuan1_i386.deb

Run these commands in the following order.

apt-get update
apt-get -t ascii-proposed install sysvinit-core
dpkg -i libfdisk1_2.29.2-1+devuan1_amd64.deb
apt-get -t ascii-proposed download sysvinit-utils
dpkg -i sysvinit-utils_2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2_amd64.deb util-linux_2.29.2-1+devuan1_amd64.deb
apt-get -t ascii-proposed install initscripts
apt-get install openrc

When openrc is finished installing, you will get the warning that's a couple of posts above this. You have to run a long command before rebooting. Do yourself a favor and use an x- terminal rather than plain console, so you can copy/paste.

Here's a live iso with openbox, eudev and openrc (amd64 only):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … 3_2222.iso
login/password  root/root and user/user

#2483 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problem with newest Nvidia driver » 2017-08-13 12:18:26

Are you following directions on this page?
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

I think you're supposed to stop X before you run nvidia-xconfig. (not sure, it's been awhile)

You may or may not need to add "nomodeset" to the boot command. You should not need to purge and reinstall xorg. I think you do need to blacklist nouveau.

#2484 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-08-12 17:12:12

To use an existing swap partition with a live iso, press TAB at the boot menu and add the word "swap" to the boot command. Live-boot will find and use any swap partitions. (Don't recall if it uses all that it finds or just the first one it finds.)

#2485 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » juffed text editor in ascii » 2017-08-11 22:24:18

New to me, too, but apparently not new. 0.10 tarball is the last version on sourceforge from 2013, and 0.10 is what's in debian/devuan. Good one to know in case we all end up abandoning gtk.

#2486 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Security updates for devuan jessie » 2017-08-11 12:16:31

I'll take the easy ones...

Q1: You won't get chromium  v.60 in jessie because it's not there. 57 is in jessie and jessie-security. In fact, you won't get 60 in ascii or stretch, either. It's 59 there. Chromium-60 is in ceres/sid. I don't see any chromium in jessie-backports. (Note: I hope your "stretch-backports" is a typo. Don't use debian repos in your sources.)

Q3: The link works fine here. Maybe you tried to access it yesterday during forum maintenance. It's a thread about problems upgrading to chromium 56 or 57, back in March. Probably not relevant.

The following is for informational purposes. If you can get output that looks like this, you are in deep trouble. Don't use debian repos in your sources. (If I ever do an upgrade without fixing my sources first, I'm screwed.)

apt-cache policy chromium
chromium:
  Installed: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1
  Candidate: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1
  Version table:
     60.0.3112.78-1 0
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ buster/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
     59.0.3071.86-1 0
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
 *** 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1 0
        500 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

#2487 Re: Devuan » Stretch is coming, Devuan status backported or up to date packages » 2017-08-10 01:17:31

I don't know how soon there will be devuan installer isos or even devuan-live isos. I can tell you with certainty that one of the two mother VMs for making refracta8 isos has been cloned and upgraded to ascii and produced a bootable iso. I'm getting itchy.

#2489 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Volume Up, Volume Down and Mute keys not working » 2017-08-08 11:07:03

To disable pulseaudio, you need to turn it off in the config file in /etc. I don't recall the details. I have done it, but I ended up removing pulseaudio instead.

Don't remove libasound or libpulse0. (If you try, you will figure out real quick that you can't remove them without losing everything that can play a sound.)

I right-clicked on the volume icon and selected Settings or Preferences and a window came up that had those settings.

#2490 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Where are the refracta scripts? » 2017-08-08 10:57:37

@greenjeans:

You asked in irc about the differences between refractainstaller 9.2.1 and 9.2.2. Changes are mostly related to the uefi installer.

refractainstaller-gui (9.2.2) unstable; urgency=low
.
   * Wrapper script tests for efi and selects correct installer.
   * Better instructions at chroot terminal.
   * Look for 'EFI System' in fdisk output, not just 'EFI'
   * Simple install gets pre/post install scripts.
   * Require text-entry if two EFI partitions are present.

One other change is that if you try to run the bios installer in a uefi environment, it complains and exits. (If you need to change this, you can comment out one line in the script)

#2491 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2017-08-07 11:44:06

fungus wrote:

was it pico that was the father of nano?

echo "was it pico that was the father of nano?" | awk '{ print $3 " " $5 " " $6 " " $7 " " $8 " " $9 }' | sed 's/?/./'

#2492 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Volume Up, Volume Down and Mute keys not working » 2017-08-07 10:56:25

What happens if you just remove pulseaudio? Will you lose anything?

I have an old dell laptop with jessie installed. No pulseaudio, no xfce4-volumed. I use volumeicon-alsa to control the volume, and it has the same XF86Audio settings as your amixer. I can change the volume with the buttons and the indicator is visible on screen.

#2493 Re: Other Issues » Is there a package for Skype? » 2017-08-07 10:40:06

As per my Volume Up, Volume Down and Mute keys not working Topic there is a mixture of Alsa and pulseaudio software installed. Will this apulse package fix the problems I have noted in that topic?

Can I add the following to the /etc/apt/sources.list file

deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main

... to point to the following location?

http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/di … ary-amd64/

Can I do this before installing rsyslog and upgrading to ascii?

Thanks, MTB.

Apulse is used to satisfy dependency on pulseaudio without having pulseaudio installed. I don't know if it will help your volume key problem. Add the deb line to sources.list and then install with

apt-get update
apt-get -t experimental install apulse

I would do this before upgrading to ascii. You have a better chance of identifying the source of any problems by changing one thing at a time. My personal preference is to remove pulseaudio as soon as I notice that it's installed (or do a more controlled installation of the system and make sure it doesn't get installed in the first place.)

#2494 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Where are the refracta scripts? » 2017-08-06 21:27:57

If you install refracta tools from the deb packages, do it one of the easy ways. Forget about chasing down the dependencies. (You'll need a network connection or use the dvd as a source of packages for this to work.)

dpkg -i refracta*.deb
apt-get -f install

OR

gdebi refracta*.deb

Miyo probably has mawk installed instead of gawk. I think mawk is the default that gets installed, or maybe that's what you get if you just install the standard utilities. Refractasnapshot and refractainstaller would not work without some version of awk.

#2495 Re: Off-topic » OSS, ALSA, pulseaudio, JACK, ... » 2017-08-06 14:41:35

Not sure what you mean by scaled-down, but if you want a fairly easy way to control connections in jack, try qjackctl. There's no support for jack in firefox, but there might be a way to do it through PA.

#2496 Re: Other Issues » Is there a package for Skype? » 2017-08-06 14:18:09

skype.com has deb packages that should work on jessie. (They say so.) Looks like 64-bit only. If you're not using pulseaudio and don't want to use it, install apulse first. it's in devuan repos now. (in experimental)

I've used retroshare in the past. I don't know their current state. It uses gpg keys for authentication.

Are there any alternatives that can connect with people who are using skype?

#2497 Re: Devuan » Updating os-prober, need info from other popular linux distros! Help! » 2017-08-06 01:03:55

greenjeans wrote:

So as long as a distro provides an lsb release , grub should pick it up without any further code correct?

Yes.

#2498 Re: Devuan » Updating os-prober, need info from other popular linux distros! Help! » 2017-08-04 12:05:12

No, there's no /etc/lsb-release file in devuan. You recall correctly - I had to make it myself. Ubuntu does have /etc/lsb-release, and 40lsb runs before 90linux. Devuan does use /etc/os-release, but grub doesn't seem to check for that. (I grepped through all of /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/ and /usr/lib/linux-boot-probes/ and couldn't find it.)

#2499 Re: Other Issues » [CLOSED]Configure "send to" » 2017-08-04 11:43:27

I think you would need to edit the source and recompile the package to change the action of 'Send to'. Instead, you could add an item to the right-click menu that does what you want. Take a look at this discussion about creating custom actions in thunar:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 4d29642aa8

#2500 Re: Devuan » Updating os-prober, need info from other popular linux distros! Help! » 2017-08-03 22:02:47

Geoff 42 wrote:

If you are using if elif will that mean that if you have both debian_vesion and devuan_version that you will only pick up Debian and miss the fact that it has been upgraded to Devuan?

Geoff

That bit of code would select for whichever of the two got tested first. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you'd get that name in your grub menu. There are other tests that grub does to figure out which distro you have. And if I remember correctly, there's a reference to black magic somewhere in the comments in the script.

Current Refracta isos have /etc/devuan_version, but grub uses /etc/lsb-release instead, so it shows up as Refracta (or maybe Refracted Devuan). Ubunutu isos have /etc/debian_version, but I'm pretty sure it always shows up as Ubuntu in the grub menu (if you can find it.)

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