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#2476 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Backlight control on laptops » 2020-05-04 11:19:37

Micronaut wrote:

He got the info on how to do this from a 'bug report' -- does this mean that the Ascii installer (and therefore the Debian install it was based on) does not recognize certain hardware correctly and installs the wrong X11 drivers?

Not really, it's just that the system defaults to the X server's builtin modesetting DDX driver for Intel cards and that driver doesn't work with xbacklight. The modesetting driver is reported to be a better option otherwise, see the advice on the xserver-xorg-video-intel package page:

The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use it's builtin modesetting driver instead.

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/xse … ideo-intel

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

I tend to use xrandr for changing brighness

That only changes the brightness at the software level, it works by reducing the available dynamic range for the display and so should only be used as a last resort.

man xrandr wrote:

       --brightness brightness
              Multiply the gamma values on the crtc currently attached to the output to
              specified floating value. Useful for overly bright or overly dim outputs.
              However,  this is a software only modification, if your hardware has sup‐
              port to actually change the brightness, you will probably prefer  to  use
              xbacklight.

#2477 Re: Installation » Ethernet driver needed for Devuan_jessie 1.0.0_amd64 installation » 2020-04-30 14:31:23

ve1drg wrote:

I just dont know how to get that driver unto a usb stick where I am working in windows

You can use FAT or NTFS on the USB stick if you want it to be readable in both Windows and GNU/Linux.

Although the Devuan packages site doesn't allow for direct downloads of the .deb packages the Debian packages site does so you could use that instead in a pinch.

But note that almost all drivers are included with the kernel so you can't really download those, as such. Firmware packages are fine though and they have no dependencies so it's even "safe" to install firmware .debs from sid.

#2479 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-04-26 15:19:30

rolfie wrote:

Lets move the Arch stuff discussion to a separate thread e.g. to DIY.

Please open a thread at bbs.archlinux.org instead, I'm a member there as well :-)

rolfie wrote:

You can't convince me that the EFI Bios of my ASUS Prime X570-Pro is crap and the one and only reason for my problems

I'm not trying to convince you of anything — I'm just stating my opinion, which is based on countless threads reporting problems with half-assed UEFI implementations. But I've never actually used LUKS or LVM so that may be a factor here.

rolfie wrote:

Running a Ryzen 3700X with kernel 4.19: I have rebooted the PC with that kernel and pulled dmesg into a text file. Shall I mail that to your attention (zipped)?

Just upload it to a pastebin and share the link here, lockdown is sooooo boring that I'll probably read it all.

#2480 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-04-25 23:08:07

rolfie wrote:

Arch was installed with --bootloader-id=GRUB according to the German Arch Beginners Tutorial. Do I have some interference between these two installations?

There's a German version of the old Beginner's Guide? Alad had that removed from the English site some time ago.

It won't cause interference but if you have the ESP mounted under /boot then the kernel & initramfs images will be on the FAT filesystem, which isn't ideal (IMO).

If you open a thread over at bbs.archlinux.org I can show you how to migrate /boot to the root partition, it's pretty simple to do.

rolfie wrote:

Looks like the entries in the efi are duplicated, when using efibootmgr V17 on Arch, suddenly empty entries 2,3,4,5,6 were displayed. Tried to de-activate them under Arch, no help, under efibootmgr V15 (Beowulf) they are back again. Now I am getting more complaints before the blue grub screen comes up. Maybe update-grub under Beowulf ins't doing what its supposed to do?

The update-grub command doesn't change the NVRAM entries at all, your problems are almost certainly due to a dodgy UEFI implementation.

#2481 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-04-24 23:00:14

rolfie wrote:

Mainboard and Ryzen 7 3700X CPU work fine with 4.19 kernel (except the other glitches). I have not seen any crashes, kernel panic whatsoever. Lightdm/Mate is coming up fine, LO/Firefox ... work flawlessly.

Oh really? Do any errors show up in dmesg? How are the temperatures?

We've had quite a few problem threads over at the Arch forums about freezes with 3rd generation Ryzen even with kernels >5 so I just presumed 4.19 wouldn't work well at all.

rolfie wrote:

my new Radeon RX 5500XT grahics card

You're going to have fun with that one because the Devuan firmware packages haven't been updated since last July, even in ceres.

I've been advising people over at fdn with that card to install MX Linux's firmware package, that's been ported from Ubuntu and contains the latest Navi firmware packages: http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/ahs/l/li … +1_all.deb

rolfie wrote:

On the second install I paid explicit attention to if the manual partitioning shows any way to mount the efi partition to /boot, there was none.

Devuan should be mounting the ESP under /boot/efi rather than /boot.

rolfie wrote:
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=GRUB --removable

Off-topic for these forums but you don't need to mount the ESP under /boot in Arch if you're using GRUB. I prefer to have it mounted under /efi but with the noauto option applied to save wear on the frangible FAT filesystem.

#2482 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-04-23 23:23:08

rolfie wrote:

Ryzen 3700x

You will need the backported kernel for that, 3rd generation Ryzen is poorly supported by kernel 4.19.

What is your graphics hardware? The Devuan firmware-amd-graphics packages don't have the Navi firmware yet.

rolfie wrote:

First installation attempt failed with grub not installing.

Did you check TTY4 or the installer log for the actual error message? It would be nice to know why it failed.

rolfie wrote:

I did manually modify the boot number from 1 to 8. No change.

The only difference between those two entries is Secure Boot support, which is provided by shimx64.efi.

rolfie wrote:

Why is Arch overwritten?

Because your UEFI firmware is a useless, buggy pile of crap. Most are. I can show you how to generate a new NVRAM entry for Arch but your motherboard would probably just forget it again.

rolfie wrote:

I though that two Linux OS could reside on the same drive with one efi partition without conflict.

There is no conflict, as such, the Arch entry has just been lost.

EDIT: actually I think the Arch entry might be Boot0000. What was the exact grub-install command you ran when installing Arch? /EDIT

rolfie wrote:

This uuid is the one of the encrypted LVM partition for Beowulf /dev/nvme0n1p4. What is going on here?

No idea about LUKS, sorry.

rolfie wrote:

after upgrading to kernel 5.4-bpo.4 kernel panic, due to EFI_MEMMAP is not enabled.

As I mentioned earlier you will need that kernel version.

Have you tried the add_efi_memmap kernel parameter?

#2483 Re: Installation » Installation on ThinkPad X1 Extreme (2018) » 2020-04-22 12:29:35

Which ISO image are you using? It's always best to provide the actual URL to avoid any ambiguity.

I think you'll need the beowulf beta for hardware that new.

#2484 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] How to load nftables rules at boot? » 2020-04-22 12:26:30

Marjorie wrote:

no start run levels are defined

Good spot, I missed that.

I've just run the sysd2v-0.2.sh script on the systemd nftables.service and it says

# Default-Start:  S
# Default-Stop:   0 6

So try that.

EDIT: perhaps open a bug report for this on the Debian package, the maintainer might correct it.

#2485 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] miyofetch » 2020-04-22 12:21:12

Very nice, thanks for sharing smile

You might prefer this for the CPU identification:

CPU="$(awk -F':' '/model\ name/{cpu=$2} END{print cpu}' /proc/cpuinfo)"

And perhaps this for the OS line:

OS="$(awk -F'"' '/PRETTY_NAME/{print $2}' /etc/os-release)"

#2486 Re: Installation » command line problems » 2020-04-20 22:29:33

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142973

This issue is also covered in the first post in the Devuan beowulf beta thread.

#2487 Re: Off-topic » deb.sury.org now requires systemd » 2020-04-14 15:28:09

mckaygerhard wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

MX Linux includes systemd and offers it as an alternative init system.

nonsense.. please deep more in your sentence!

MXLinux includes systemd but does not use it!

MX-19 still offers systemd as an alternative init system:

systemd.png

They don't use antiX's nosystemd repositories. Perhaps anticapitalista will confirm this, I see them lurking here regularly.

#2488 Re: Off-topic » deb.sury.org now requires systemd » 2020-04-14 10:05:41

mckaygerhard wrote:

why not join efforts with MXLinux guys and AntiX team!¡ they neither use systemd

MX Linux includes systemd and offers it as an alternative init system.

#2489 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2020-04-14 10:02:20

czeekaj wrote:

Removing pulse sometimes breaks Xfce metapackage

Not in my tests.

The xfce4 metapackage lists xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin as a dependency but PA is only in the Recommends list for that package (and even that is only for beowulf, the ASCII version doesn't list it all) and so can be removed without breaking things.

czeekaj wrote:

libsdl1.2debian requires libpulse0 and I can't seem to get around that

But libpulse0 won't be used if PulseAudio isn't running. It's a bit like the situation with libsystemd0 in Devuan's initial release.

#2490 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [HowTo] Fix AMDGPU Error » 2020-04-14 09:49:00

wingcommander1999 wrote:

My configuration is poorly supported in Debian 10, no graphical interface works

Notwithstanding that this is the Devuan forums, your problem is already covered in the Debian wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Firmware

#2491 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [HowTo] Fix Wired unmanaged under Cinnanom 3.8 » 2020-04-14 09:44:54

Why would you want to use NetworkManager instead of ifupdown? NM is pure bloat for a simple ethernet connection.

Simpler solution:

# apt purge network-manager{,-gnome}

smile

EDIT: also remove network-manager-gnome to get rid of nm-applet.

#2492 Re: Other Issues » Strange thing appearing during boot » 2020-04-12 09:23:19

Try the iommu=soft kernel command line parameter.

And for outdated PCI IDs use

# update-pciids

#2493 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » IBUS issue » 2020-04-08 17:29:16

Copper36 wrote:

how do I create a launching script?

Create a file called /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom with this content:

#!/bin/sh
GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk-im-context-simple QT_IM_MODULE=simple XMODIFIERS=@im=none /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus "$@"

Use chmod +x to make the script executable and then symlink it to /usr/local/bin/, like this:

# ln -s /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom /usr/local/bin/startlazarus-1.6.2
# ln -s /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom /usr/local/bin/lazarus-ide-1.6.2

Then use this to add the script to the alternatives system:

# update-alternatives \
   --install /usr/bin/lazarus-ide lazarus-ide /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom 1060200 \
   --slave /usr/bin/startlazarus startlazarus /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom \
   --slave /usr/share/pixmaps/lazarus.xpm lazarus.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps/lazarus-1.6.2.xpm

Finally run this and select the new startlazarus-custom alternative:

# update-alternatives --config lazarus-ide

If you ever upgrade the system or change to the newer Lazarus package from the backports repository then remove the custom script from the alternatives system beforehand:

# update-alternatives --remove lazarus-ide /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom

Also remove /usr/lib/lazarus/1.6.2/startlazarus-custom and the /usr/local/bin/startlazarus-1.6.2 & /usr/local/bin/lazarus-ide-1.6.2 symlinks.

After the upgrade you can create new scripts & symlinks and add the new alternative using the new package version names.

#2494 Re: Installation » Install minimal X Server with nouveau » 2020-04-06 18:47:34

Udo017 wrote:

This is a GeForce GT 1030, that schould not too new.

The package versions for ASCII were frozen back in early 2017 and your system fails to identify the card correctly so I think you need to try the beowulf beta image instead.

#2495 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-04-06 18:43:29

golinux wrote:

HoaS is an easy wind-up.

I can't argue with that...

golinux wrote:

I suspect that this is the tip of the iceberg

Almost certainly given the ridiculous size of the codebase.

#2496 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-04-06 17:31:40

Damn, that's the first time I've caught Debian stable with an unfixed bug: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … -2020-1712

Oh dear sad

EDIT:

Altoid wrote:

SystemD

It's spelled "systemd" actually. Are you all doing that deliberately to wind me up? mad

#2497 Re: Installation » Install minimal X Server with nouveau » 2020-04-06 17:30:33

Udo017 wrote:

The xorg.conf created by Xorg -configure

Did you try removing that file? X should auto-configure these days.

That card might be too new for ASCII's nouveau driver. Have you tried the beowulf beta image?

Be sure to install the firmware-misc-nonfree package as well.

#2498 Re: Installation » [BUG] beowulf beta netinst. ISO does not configure locales or timezone » 2020-04-02 14:10:07

Correction:

I wrote:

The tzdata package was configured for me

I was mistaken, the timezone is also not configured and was set to 'Etc/UTC'.

golinux wrote:

Oh, but it is!

Thanks. I've just used reportbug from the installed system, I'll edit this post with the bug number once I get a reply.

#2499 Re: Installation » [BUG] beowulf beta netinst. ISO does not configure locales or timezone » 2020-04-02 12:49:07

^ The tzdata package was configured for me, did you see the options for localisation in the installer?

#2500 Re: Installation » [BUG] beowulf beta netinst. ISO does not configure locales or timezone » 2020-04-02 12:21:05

Marjorie wrote:

As you mention OpenRC I assume you're using the 'expert' option on one of the full isos. Which iso though?

The netinstall image, as per the link in my OP. I didn't change the priority in the installer, I just ran through the default "Install" option.

Marjorie wrote:

I installed using the devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_amd64_desktop.iso and installed to disk and locales seems OK

Ah, interesting. So perhaps it's just the netinstall then.

EDIT: changed the thread title to indicate the image used.

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