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#1 Re: Installation » How To install a virtual machine inside devuan chimaera, later stable » 2023-09-08 18:56:26

Also you can run existing windows installation in virtual machine it is not recommended.

Normally, you do not need extension pack which is proprietary. In most cases guest-tools are OK.

I found yet another way to install virtualbox:

apt-get install ./mx23-archive-keyring_2023.6.6_all.deb

nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mxlinux.list
deb bookworm main non-free
deb bookworm ahs

nano /etc/apt/preferences.d/mxlinux
Package: *
Pin: release a=mx
Pin-Priority: 100

apt-get update
apt-get install virtualbox virtualbox-guest-additions-iso

addgroup vboxsf
adduser your_user_name vboxsf
modprobe vboxdrv

nano /etc/modules   //add this line:

Now you have fully functional virtualbox. It's for daedalus. For chimaera you can use

and replace bookworm with bullseye

As a bonus mx repo contains a lot of useful software such as palemoon, tlpui, foliate etc.

#2 Desktop and Multimedia » QIMGV video » 2023-09-08 18:22:45

Replies: 0

I've been susing qimgv in chimaera. And now, in daedalus I can't open any video. In "options" I see:
qimgv was built without video support

What's happened with it? How to get back video support?

#4 Re: Devuan » Question for devs... Debian 12 can be installed without systemd » 2023-09-06 19:08:23

mweishaar wrote:

... So downloaded it and installed it in a kvm, once with the default, and once with sysvinit. Both ran fine.

Yes, you can do it. I did it. But... they do not care about compatibility. If some package requires systemd you can not use it. Ex. You can not install gnome from debian repo without systemd.

#5 Re: Other Issues » Virus scanning on Devuan » 2023-09-06 19:03:04

Segfault wrote:

Windows viruses do not run in Wine.

...and if you run some app in wine? If the virus can be executed in wine it will be executed. Wine is compatibility layer that let them to be executed! Not all viruses, but some of them.

To my mind, the best way to deal with M$ is to separate windows from linux. Use virtualisation. There is no problem to add a shared folder to the guest in order to use antivirus on windows if it's necessary.

#6 Re: Other Issues » Virus scanning on Devuan » 2023-09-04 20:12:49

mark0x01 wrote:

What do other Devuan users use for virus and malware detection?

Do not get it. The very first thing to do after installation is to configure firewall.

You can use portable antivirus on windows virtual machine to analyse the shit received from others if you have this kind of issue.

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browsers won't launch » 2023-09-04 20:06:38

Did you try to purge firefox completelly ( ex.: "apt-get remove --purge firexox-esr" or "apt-get remove --purge firexox"  and reinstall it?

#8 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall - no DE » 2023-08-02 21:07:52

fsmithred wrote:

It ;probably means that you still have some debian repository enabled in /etc/apt/source.list/ or sources.list.d/

I did not find any foreign repos in my source.list. It's strange for me. Anyway I've finished by installing pure devuan.

#9 Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall - no DE » 2023-08-02 15:31:11

Replies: 3

I've converted debian bookworm netinstall to devuan daedalus.

Then I've tried to install DE and got : tasksel: apt-get failed

When I try to install cinnamon-desktop, xfce4, gnome, budgie-desktop manually they all fail as there are no network-manager-gnome, or depends dbus-bin (= 1.14.6-1devuan1)but 1.14.8-2 is to be installed.

What does it means?

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-08-01 20:40:45

May be Palemoon? 2GB RAM is not enough for modern sh.. web with all s..t scripts.

#11 Re: Installation » EFI: How to install two OS with the same name? » 2023-05-02 22:57:30

Tanks fsmitherd. I'll give it a try. Should it work with luks encrypted and refind?

#12 Installation » EFI: How to install two OS with the same name? » 2023-05-02 20:48:37

Replies: 3

I had efi installation of chimaera

$ efibootmgr
Boot0002* debian

This installation has been made from Debian netinstall -> Devuan. I know, that if I'll try to install the second Debian alongside the first one than only one of them will be bootable. Is it possible to solve the issue? Or, how to rename this boot records?

#13 Re: Off-topic » Voce fala portugues? » 2023-03-19 18:54:56

Aleksanders wrote:


To enter any character of ~^`¨ I have to press it twice. To enter ' I have to press '+[space]. '+' enters ´ character. ç ('+c) doesn´t work. '+c enters ć. sad

It's not linux problem. You can try different international layouts. There is no other way than typing multiple keys to type accents on american qwerty keyboard.

#15 Re: Off-topic » Voce fala portugues? » 2023-03-16 22:38:17

You can simply use US international keyboard. Just go to your favorite DE (gnome, cinnamon, kde etc) find keyboard layout and set it to English (US, alt. intl.)

You can type than all of the above by combining some keys.

#16 Re: Freedom Hacks » Is it safe to encrypt only the home directory? » 2023-03-10 19:37:37

eyeV wrote:

Just to be clear please tell me which way attacker can get hold of luks password.
Is it possible that it is stored in some configuration file on the disk or something like that?

My processor doesn't support it, but it doesn't matter, I'm fine with this performance if changing the encryption would be to the detriment of security

No it's in RAM. In the case when some hack toy like flash or similar is applied it's possible to modify unencrypted files on root partition. In this case after you boot your system the content of the RAM can be read and sent to an attacker.

It's possible to block access to any USB from withing the system, but only from running system, so it's better to use FDE.

There is still unencrypted boot or unencrypted efi partition. Nevertheless there are some mitigations.

Do you have an old processor? Yes it slows down.

#17 Re: Freedom Hacks » Is it safe to encrypt only the home directory? » 2023-03-08 01:09:26

eyeV wrote:

I have full-system encryption applied, so my applications and UI elements run slower than they could
I am interested in whether any personal data can leak out if you encrypted only the home directory during the installation by making it a separate partition
Сonsidering the swap file will be on the home partition and there is no swap partition

Suppose you plug a flash drive into such a system and try to retrieve as much user information as possible.
What information will be retrieved?

Is it safe to encrypt only the home directory? - No
I have full-system encryption applied, so my applications and UI elements run slower than they could - it should not be the case. AES encryption is supported by CPU itself so the slowdown should be negligeable.
Suppose you plug a flash drive into such a system and try to retrieve as much user information as possible - your activity including logs, time etc.
More of that if your system is compromised either by inserting flash or by other means the attacker can get luks password.

#18 Re: Devuan » Hardening Linux, minimal, to ultra. » 2022-12-19 18:52:48

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Devarch wrote:


How about overlayfs? Mount the root partition read-only with a writeable overlay that is lost on reboot.

Alpine uses overlayfs to run in RAM: …

Yes, I'm using overlayfs

The script looks too complicated. There are much simplier solutions:

1.  uses overlayfs or aufs if aufs is in the kernel, easy to use

2. … ng_started adds live boot entry

did not find smth similar for BSD family. They are using unionfs but I've no idea if it is useful and how to use it.

Also I do not understand the concept of "reasonably secure operating system" qubes. They are using systemd and have no immutability. All the logs, traces or malvares are persistent. Strange.

#19 Re: Devuan » Hardening Linux, minimal, to ultra. » 2022-12-18 20:30:36

To my mind there is no hardening without immutability. The system must be vierge after reboot.

#20 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Pipewire » 2022-12-13 17:57:48

GlennW wrote:

My system is Devuan 5 Daedalus.

the hardware is discovered and used. works ok. Will be trying the bt headphones soon. :-) thank you

The installation is a bit different on daedalus - much simplier smile

Nice to hear that it works.

#21 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-12-11 19:42:11

recklessswing wrote:

I tried similiar stuff but in the end they failed. Good try though.

What do you mean when you say "similar"?

My chimaera is converted from debian with this exact not similar configuration. Systemd has been purged succesfully. I've also active LMDE repos with the same priority as devuan's repos, mx and sparky repos with lower priority.

#22 Re: Installation » Installing from USB thumb drive » 2022-12-10 23:48:35

Micronaut wrote:

Has the odd problem of permanently incomplete install of proprietary video drivers been solved in chimaera? Or will I have to go back to those threads about elaborate extra steps to complete the installation?

Download unofficial non-free image of Debian and convert it installed to Devuan. There is always a choise.

#23 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Pipewire » 2022-12-10 12:34:18

GlennW wrote:

I tried it yesterday and got no sound devices listed.

I'll give it another shot sometime in the near future.

Seems I forgot nothing, all the steps are above. It works on my machine.

I have to use recent kernel as I've quite recent hardware

$ uname -a
Linux host 6.0.0-0.deb11.2-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.0.3-1~bpo11+1 (2022-10-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux

But I don"t think it makes any difference.

In addition to what @Head_on_a_Stick told, try to not run it as root.

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Pipewire » 2022-12-06 17:11:11

Telegram also works.

If someone wants to repeate the steps above give me some time to test. I do not know if there are some bugs.

Update. It works.
The disadvantage, when I use USB headset I have to manually set input and output in order to use external microphone and speaker.

Also my bluetooth did not keep connection more than 15 min or so. But it was not linked with pipewire itself. The same was with pulseaudio.
The solution is to update intel bluetooth driver to the latest:

tar xfvz linux-firmware-20210511.tar.gz
cd linux-firmware-20210511
sudo cp intel/ibt-* /lib/firmware/intel/

I still has an error "iwlwifi driver not loading" on boot, but wifi and bluetooth are working without issues.

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Pipewire » 2022-12-06 14:56:57

OK. I've got it.

There is still a problem with pipewire: the sound is a bit "metallic" on chimaera, while close to "the best" on daedalus.

I'll provide a tutorial bellow if somebody needs it. not sure this is the best way smile

under root:

nano /etc/apt/sources.list
deb chimaera-backports main contrib non-free

//backport is needed as there are no all packages in the main

apt-get update
aptitude install -t chimaera-backports pipewire pipewire-audio-client-libraries pipewire-pulse pipewire-bin pipewire-alsa pipewire-doc pipewire-tests wireplumber libwireplumber-0.4-0 libspa-0.2-bluetooth libspa-0.2-jack gstreamer1.0-pipewire libpipewire-0.3-0 libpipewire-0.3-modules libspa-0.2-modules libxfixes3 blueman bluez

//apt can also be used. I've updated bluetooth
// I do not know if it makes any difference but my blueman is also newer 2.3.4+mint1+elsie than in chimaera as I have eslie repo enabled (LMDE:   deb elsie main upstream import backport)

mv /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop.bak
pkill -9 pulseaudio
apt-get remove pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio

touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-alsa
cp /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/alsa.conf.d/99-pipewire-default.conf /etc/alsa/conf.d/

touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-jack
cp /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/*.conf /etc/
rc-update del pulseaudio-enable-autospawn

// the last command is for open-rc, use different one if u 've sysvinit, runit

//now under regular user ($):  where megauser - is your username

nano /home/megauser/.config/autostart/pipewirelauncher.desktop

// content:

[Desktop Entry]
Comment=custom script
nano /home/megauser/



/usr/bin/pipewire &
/usr/bin/wireplumber &
/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &
chmod +x /home/megauser/.config/autostart/pipewirelauncher.desktop /home/megauser/
# reboot
$ LC_ALL=C pactl info | grep "Server Name"

Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.58)

Sound on mpv, vlc, bluetooth works as well as microphone.

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