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#1 Devuan Derivatives » Heads » 2024-08-29 06:04:16
- jue-gen
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Does anyone know anything current about Heads?
Will heads be further developed or is it better to use Tails?
Addendum: I found something about Heads here:
Index » Devuan Derivatives » heads linux: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4761
I have always been very satisfied with Heads. But now I have concerns because safety can no longer be based on current knowledge.
#2 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 21:39:38
Hi ralph.ronnquist,
I wouldn't have thought of anything like that. That solved my problem! Thank you very much.
Addendum:
I have uninstalled Connman. Because I use KDE Plasma almost exclusively, I have installed plasma-nm, which accesses the network manager. Yes, that's certainly not the purist option, but it's convenient for me and it works. However, I will actually have to deal with ifupdown, wpa_supplicant and wpagui. Yes, I'm also thinking about the man interfaces ;-)
#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 21:18:22
Hi ralph.ronnquist,
I use connman. Do you think this is the Problem? Is it better to use network-manager or wicd?
#4 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 21:15:30
Hi rolfie,
you say: "That means you are not resolving anything - localhost". But why does it work with us.deb* and de.deb*? And why do I get to other pages on the net? Aren't nameserver ::1 and nameserver 127.0.0.1 just the placeholder for the ISP's IP address assignment?
#5 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 20:43:06
Hi em-777,
This is the Google DNS server ...
For me here:
cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by Connection Manager
nameserver ::1
nameserver 127.0.0.1#6 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 20:15:35
I replaced deb.devuan.org in the sources.list with us.deb.devuan.org and this is the result:
apt-get update
OK:1 http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
OK:2 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease
OK:3 http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
OK:4 http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
OK:5 http://us.deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
OK:6 http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
Paketlisten werden gelesen… FertigThere are no problems.
I replaced deb.devuan.org in the sources.list with de.deb.devuan.org and this is the result:
apt-get update
OK:1 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
OK:2 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
OK:3 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
OK:4 http://de.deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
OK:5 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
OK:6 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease
Paketlisten werden gelesen… FertigNo problems here either.
And I can also access http://de.deb.devuan.org/ with the browser without any problems.
#7 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 16:31:37
Hi chris2be8, thank you. This is what it looks like:
host deb.devuan.org
deb.devuan.org has address 185.38.15.84
deb.devuan.org has address 141.84.43.19
deb.devuan.org has address 147.78.194.22
deb.devuan.org has address 125.228.189.120
deb.devuan.org has address 185.178.192.43
deb.devuan.org has address 190.64.49.124
deb.devuan.org has address 67.219.104.166
deb.devuan.org has address 131.188.12.211
deb.devuan.org has address 95.216.15.86
deb.devuan.org has address 198.58.118.8
deb.devuan.org has address 195.85.215.180
deb.devuan.org has address 103.146.168.12
deb.devuan.org has address 130.225.254.116
deb.devuan.org has address 94.16.114.15
deb.devuan.org has address 185.236.240.103
deb.devuan.org has address 46.4.50.2
deb.devuan.org has address 5.161.180.234
deb.devuan.org has address 160.16.137.156
deb.devuan.org has address 106.178.112.231
deb.devuan.org has address 185.183.113.131
deb.devuan.org has address 200.236.31.1
deb.devuan.org is an alias for deb.rr.devuan.org.ping deb.devuan.org
ping: deb.devuan.org: Temporärer Fehler bei der NamensauflösungEnglish: Temporary error during name resolution
Browser: http://deb.devuan.org/
Seite wurde nicht gefunden
Die Verbindung mit dem Server deb.devuan.org schlug fehl.
English: Page was not found
The connection to the server deb.devuan.org failed.
Strange and difficult for me.
#8 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 12:04:57
My transmission has also become slow. Maybe that's a problem with us. I mean here in Germany in Weil der Stadt.
Hi rolfie, how can i check if my DNS is working alright? Just a keyword, I can then continue searching myself.
Addendum: I get to devuan.org excellently and the answer is fast. But the subdomain deb.devuan.org refuses to work for me.
ping: http://deb.devuan.org: The name or the service is not known
ping: https://deb.devuan.org: The name or the service is not known
ping: deb.devuan.org: Temporary error during name resolution
#9 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Update » 2024-08-16 08:56:10
Hi Ron, you're luckier than me. It looks like this for me at the moment (German language setting):
root@rechner:~# apt update
OK:1 https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla InRelease
Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
Ign:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
Ign:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
Ign:5 http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
Ign:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
Ign:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
Ign:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
Ign:5 http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
Ign:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
Ign:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
Ign:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
Ign:5 http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
Ign:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
Fehl:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease
Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
Fehl:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
Fehl:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease
Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
Fehl:5 http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease
Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
Fehl:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease
Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Alle Pakete sind aktuell.
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/daedalus/InRelease Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/daedalus-updates/InRelease Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/daedalus-security/InRelease Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/daedalus-proposed-updates/InRelease Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/daedalus-backports/InRelease Temporärer Fehlschlag beim Auflösen von »deb.devuan.org«
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- jue-gen
- Replies: 19
What's going on? Since yesterday I get errors (Temporary failure resolving deb.devuan.org) and the sources are ignored. I probably just have to wait, right?
Here is my sources.list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Updates
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Security
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Proposed-Updates
deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/ daedalus-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/ daedalus-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
#Backports
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware#11 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-07 20:25:35
That can't be a solution either. Devuan is not the worst choice. I'm sticking to it. The malicious code never made it into stable. Security just needs to become more important in the future. The attacks will get much better. You have to be prepared for that.
#12 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-07 19:56:06
The malicious code arrived in Testing and Unstable. If it recognized that it had landed on a system that does not work with systemd, it did nothing. But it was still there. This is an obvious security problem. Malicious code lurking in the system. Nobody can say if, how and when it can become active and cause damage. Thank God it has been found. But that should be a lesson to us. Security will have to become more important in the future.
#13 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-07 10:56:19
And for the German speakers here, an interesting publication - also in relation to systemd:
https://dnip.ch/2024/04/02/xz-open-sour … wtab-de-de
Perhaps there is someone here who can evaluate systemd against this background.
#14 Forum Feedback » "Security" section » 2024-04-07 05:34:42
- jue-gen
- Replies: 2
Good morning everyone, due to the unpleasant incidents with xz / liblzma, I have the feeling that a "Security" section is missing here in the forum. There are News & Announcements, Forum Feedback, Support etc., but "Security" is missing. Or have I overlooked something? What do you think?
#15 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-06 20:30:59
This publication is also interesting for Devuan because it may confirm Devuan's philosophy:
https://www.wired.com/story/jia-tan-xz-backdoor/
#16 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-03 06:10:47
Here is a timeline of what happened:
https://research.swtch.com/xz-timeline
#17 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-03-31 08:27:49
Take a look at this:
#18 Re: Devuan » Thank you » 2024-02-01 08:18:30
So far, I have found everything I need at Devuan.
#19 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 19:46:10
OK, I'll just keep working with Devuan and trust the people who do it.
#20 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 18:30:23
Thank you, quickfur. That must be the case. I've never thought about it before, but I like it.
#21 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 17:25:56
Thank you, boughtonp. That was an enlightening explanation, at least for me. Now I understand it better. Yes, "Devuan is Debian".
Addendum:
But when I do an update, it doesn't come from a Debian server. It comes from deb.devuan.org. Do the updates from Devuan come to this repository without delay? That's what makes me happy, everything happens very quickly. How should I imagine that?
#22 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 15:23:58
Yes, o.k., altoid. When I think about all this, I'm currently coming to the conclusion that I'm actually stupid if I don't continue working with X11. I assumed that Wayland was less bloated than Wayland. At least that's what I've read several times in various forums. I've also read that Wayland is more cleanly programmed and much clearer. I personally cannot verify these statements. What I do know is that I have more problems with Wayland. For example, when I have to fill in long tables from various authorities online, I only have problems with Wayland because the clipboard doesn't work reliably. And here it's pretty stupid if the penultimate number is pasted instead of the last number you copied. If you have to enter several hindered amounts, you simply can't work with Wayland. OK, I'll continue working with X11 for the time being. Many thanks for the input. I'm still interested in the topic and maybe I can read more interesting thoughts in this forum.
Best regards
#23 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 11:31:18
Maybe so, Altoid. I would prefer X11 to be solid and future-proof. As I'm not an expert, I've been reading a lot in forums for years. There, the view that Wayland is more secure is becoming more and more common. For example, because if a window is hijacked, X11 also leaks the data from the other windows to the attacker. Sorry, this is probably not expressed correctly, please bear with me.
But what I'm missing is a really good comparison of the security aspects of X11 and Wayland. I haven't found that anywhere yet. Frankly, I'm looking for some competent confirmation that X11 is at least as secure as Wayland (and furthermore, perhaps: that it has a future). I would appreciate it if someone here could comment on this. I've been using Linux-Debian > Devuan since 2002, but I only work with it, I'm not a programmer or anything like that.
Tell me, Altoid, that X11 in Devuan is at least as secure as Wayland, and I will happily continue to use X11. That would be my favorite thing.
#24 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 09:22:24
Yes, that's probably a gap, semil. Although I still have problems with the clipboard, for example, I've only been using Wayland for some time now. It's a stupid situation. Not everything actually works perfectly with Wayland, but with X11 there are apparently security holes that aren't being fixed.
#25 Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-25 08:29:53
- jue-gen
- Replies: 19
It's great that security updates are implemented in Devuan with virtually no delay. For example, I currently got the notifications for thunderbird, firefox-esr, chromium on my smartphone from security@debian.org, go to my Devuan computer and all three get an update. That's nice to see and reassuring.
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