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#1 Re: Devuan » Non-free firmware in Devuan Daedalus? » 2023-05-01 17:02:53
Thank you for the reply. When I installed Devuan via the netinstaller in the past, I had to load the iwlwifi firmware packages from a USB stick.
#2 Devuan » Non-free firmware in Devuan Daedalus? » 2023-05-01 13:03:14
- fab161
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Hello everybody,
as upstream Debian recently voted for the inclusion of necessary non-free firmware blobs within the official installation media, I wonder if Devuan will follow this decision for the upcoming Devuan Daedalus. As far as I am aware, Debian's decision was widely regarded as a positive and user friendly.
On the Devuan side, the current situation for Devuan Chimaera is rather complicated: While the official netinstall images do not include proprietary firmware, the live images with Xfce do. Also, Devuan does not provide "unofficial" netinstaller builds with proprietary blobs as far as I am aware.
Are there any plans to change the current situation within the Devuan project?
Best regards,
Fabian
#4 Re: Devuan » Experiences with Ceres? » 2022-07-05 14:17:02
So, I opted for a Daedalus installation for now, which should be a quite nice compromise between stability and the updated packages I need.
When I looked at the repository specifications for Daedalus on https://www.devuan.org/os/packages I wondered that there are no security-update options on Devuan whereas Debian has those even for testing. For that reason I went the hole way to Ceres
Respectively, I've remembered that wrong. Devuan stated that there is no release file in (imaginary) directories like daedalus-security and daedalus-updates, sorry for that one and possible confusion. Apparently I misunderstood stuff the Debian security-team says on this FAQ: https://www.debian.org/security/faq (especially the unstable and testing parts).
EDIT: For anybody as confused as myself:
How to upgrade to Debian (next-stable) Testing
<!> Please always upgrade to Debian Testing from current stable. Upgrading from oldstable is not supported and might encounter unexpected errors.
To upgrade to testing from current stable, if you have already installed the stable release:
Edit your apt sources, changing 'stable' (or bullseye, the current codename for stable) to 'testing' (or bookworm, the current code name for the next stable release).
Remove, disable or comment out your stable security updates apt sources (anything with security.debian.org in it).
Remove, disable or comment out any other stable-specific apt sources, like *-backports or *-updates.Verify that your installation is not fixed to a specific release in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00default-release
--> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
According to this, this sources list should be complete, right?
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged testing main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged testing main non-free contribEDIT: Similar discussion I found on the Debian Forum: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=143325
#5 Re: Devuan » Experiences with Ceres? » 2022-07-05 09:15:10
if you need a mix of newer software + some better stability, you can always go with testing/daedalus. or use stable with some apt pin for specific packages from unstable (in case they don't need newer libc6 or some other critical upgrade).
I when I looked at the repository specifications for Daedalus on https://www.devuan.org/os/packages I wondered that there are no security-update options on Devuan whereas Debian has those even for testing. For that reason I went the hole way to Ceres.
My problem with the repo mix and match option is basically that stuff like alsa, pulseaudio and so on can be considered as core components of the system and it seems as those have a quite big amount of dependencies.
#6 Re: Devuan » Experiences with Ceres? » 2022-07-05 05:05:12
Thanks for your replies!
It's typically as stable to use Devuan's "unstable" as it is to use Debian's "unstable" ("sid"), because most of Devuan's packages come unaltered from Debian. Mostly it works well (better?) to run a "chimaera" installation and only add in "daedalus" packages where necessary and possible.
I think I would consider switching to such a setup because I'm really not against the so called old packages in stable. I don't need the newest versions of packages everytime - but in this case it is kinda necessary.
My problem is that the packages I would need aren't in the official backports repository. So would it be too problematic to build a Frankendevuan (as described here: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … kenDebian) these days?
#7 Devuan » Experiences with Ceres? » 2022-07-04 19:54:46
- fab161
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Hey y'all, today I installed Devuan again. In the past weeks I got some issues with audio (alsa, pulseaudio, pipewire) on Debian and Debian-based distros -- sadly, Devuan was no exception. Although I tried much things out to get the stuff working, nothing worked besides updating to the testing/unstable branches. So I did this with Devuan too and moved to Ceres through Daedalus. Now I'm on a so called "unstable" Devuan system with these active lines in /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main non-free contrib
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main non-free contrib
Coming from Debian unstable and Artix I think this shouldn't go too bad.. 
So my question to you: Do you have any experiences with running Devuan Ceres as a daily driver?
#8 Devuan Derivatives » EDev1 » 2021-12-23 18:31:47
- fab161
- Replies: 2
Hello there,
today I'm happy to announce the first release of the Devuan spin 'EDev1':
With this spin I want to share my enthusiasm for the Enlightenment (E) desktop environment.
This spin is based on a Devuan net-installation, just the standard repositories are enabled.
It provides a full-featured (but very lightweight) E environment with some extra themes and various desktop profiles
(look at the settings panel). Also, the Numix GTK theme, the Gnome Colors icons and some
useful tools (mainly AbiWord, Gnumeric, PCManFM, VLC media player, HTOP, Mousepad and VIM) are preinstalled.
E-Devuan does NOT provide any proprietary software by default (watch out for drivers!). Further, you can use the tools refractasnapshot (to create custom ISOs) and the refractainstaller (for offline installation).
The default language of EDev1 is US English. Other languages can be selected at the boot splash
screen of Devuan. The keyboard layout should be selected in the E-settings-panel. Please
remember, that the keyboard settings are E-profile specific.
NOTES:
• I do not have enough time and knowledge to maintain a spin or a distribution. If you want
to get support for Enlightenment, please use Elive or Bodhi Linux.
• Currently, there is no UEFI support in E-Dev1.
KNOWN ISSUES:
• The Enlightenment icon bug: Sometimes icons in the bar just seem to disappear, but there
are not gone. The starters still work, but the icons are not there. In Devuan the bug can be
fixed (maybe) when an icon set is reloaded (look at the E-settings-panel).
DEFAULT PASSWORDS:
username: edevuan
password: edevuan
root-password: edevuan
You can download EDev1 4.0.1.1 and related files from: edev1.sourceforge.io/
Have fun,
fab161
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