Posts by Mike-thinky

Mike-thinky · Installation

Hi Geki,

Yes I have that page, in frustration I even put the windows bootloader in the excluded list on the right hand side. I will keep trying. It does seem to be on the latest BIOS for the L14, it is currently already at version 19, so someone updated it before I bought it. Yes the mystery key to bring up bios is not fun anymore.
I still cannot get it to change out of totally locked to windows.

My next thing to try is to try and setup a supervisor password to see if that unlocks some of the options. But I want to check through Lenovos interpretation of the various things to set.

Mike-thinky · Installation

Thank you Ralph,

I went into settings > System > Recovery

That gives you the option to reboot into the hypervisor level of windows, from there I can get into the bios (the slow way round) and I can ask it to reboot from a choice of media, but it still does not reboot to anywhere but windows, usually telling me it is doing windows recovery.

The same 3 usb sticks give me a boot menu in 2 other laptops, but not this one.

Mike-thinky · Installation

It clearly does the the USB stick, makes some sort of start to read it and then bails out to tell me it want to repair windows.

In two other PC's It starts and lets the USB run.
It is plainly the secure boot getting in the way.

Any questions about other

I only get to choose the boot order in the bios, I never get the selection option when it reads the usb, I am bounced back to windows, so HOAS I did answer your question first time round there is nothing to select...

Mike-thinky · Installation

I think I must put my own keyset in there, each thing I try makes it seem like that is what I must do. But the risk of bricking it is holding me back, I must try a few more things before I go to that.

currently I am trying to get ventoy to run the usb with a 32Mb UEFI partition,so that I may run clonezilla and take off the image onto the usb before wiping it for devuan. It is then the best of both worlds, I get devuan, and other family members get win11 inside a firewall...

Mike-thinky · Installation

Hi Altoid, the boot usb stick works in another PC, And I do know when I am in the bios settings. On this Lenovo they are very empty, on another 2 lenovos it is busier.

Mike-thinky · Installation

Well it can be done, but it is even less secure, as the EFI layer with all its opaque complexity is still there, but now not locked down.
I know that is the fallback option, but with this lenovo I am not even sure it can be done, seems so much more locked down than previous bios I have worked with.
It keeps dropping back to windows even with the Gparted usb stick being presented.

Mike-thinky · Installation

It is generation 1, and every attempt to get the usb stick to run leads back to windows trying to stop the install.
The days of reading the numbers off SMD devices is past, I needed a magnifying glass to read the text on the bottom.

Mike-thinky · Installation

It is a thinkpad L14, second hand, I have the service manual etc, and I just know I do not want win11.

I cannot even get it to see the usb stick yet. the bios has quite a sparse menu, so not many things to miss in theory.

I guess I must send an email to support then.

Mike-thinky · Installation

I have a Lenovo that I need to install Devuan, the bios is not like the Lenovo examples on the web:

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=377054

https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/solutions/ht103400-linux-operating-system-limitations-when-secure-boot-is-enabled
and a lenovo PDF as well

BUT on my BIOS pages there does not seem to be any option to change the secure boot from "standard mode" to "Custom mode", the text provided implies the choice is there, but I am unable to find how to activate that.

This page is of great help:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface/Secure_Boot

I have already done a trial run of generating the keys required, and it does seem, looking at the bios options available that I can remove the keys and install my own, and it has an option to revert the keys, if I want to sell the laptop later.

I just need to know that it is my only option, as there is a risk of bricking the laptop this way.

I want win11 to exist inside a VM on the laptop, not the other way round, there are family members that are resistant to linux.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Mike-thinky wrote:
I got frustrated and rebooted, it came straight back up to 38%
Don't reboot with the machine plugged in and charging. That sudden jump in percentage may have been caused by your battery being flooded with power during the reboot cycle. That will kill the battery *very* quickly indeed. And when I say "kill" I actually mean "potentially explode" (yes, really).
Check /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full_design and compare it to /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full to see how much damage has been sustained.

With an empty battery or a full battery that might be possible, but in between I cannot see how that would happen unless the psu delivered huge fault currents into the battery

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

well it was charge_full and charge_full_design, they both report 3242000, so thankfully a sane psu design.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

That gives me some things to look at.

It stayed at 7% for about an hour, I got frustrated and rebooted, it came straight back up to 38%, so the panel thingy in bottom right had been lying to me for most of that hour.

your link took me after a little look to this page:
https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/faq

It seems to be that daedalus is missing pm-utils, the rest seems to be systemd tentacles. I will install that and monitor behaviour on low battery and unplugged.

As a separate note, I do like being able to keep laptop batteries charged between 60%min, 80-85%max, it makes the battery last so much longer.

Eventually I will have to tinker to make that possible here too.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

Hi,

System nearly how I want it, but this morning the battery ran low, but not empty.
I plugged it back into the charger, and it displayed charging, but the update to the percentage is very very slow, and I do not know where it is set.
As a consequence of getting below 10%? it would not connect to the wifi, so unable to search on there for an answer

So where should I be looking on a Daedalus XFCE and lightdm build to tinker with the battery charge status update interval, and or change the percentage threshold for this?

The settings editor GUI does not have this number available, unless the name is misleading and I have glossed past it?

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

well I installed libmtp-runtime.
then reinstalled firmware-realtek
and rebooted, solved, I now have wifi too.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

finally half sorted, I had to comment out the daedalus-updates line,

Then it let me update a file,
Then I listed apt list *amd*
and found firmware-amd-graphics, which it did not call me out and say it was upgradeable...

Anyway I have some acceptable resolution now, so easier to find out what is wrong with gdebi, as a way of updating the wireless.

following this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4900

The final suggestion from HOAS did not work for me...

so I tried an install of gdebi again, this time it pulled in lots of stuff, and worked, yay

I have the mx19 and the mx21 deb files, does it matter which one I use?
I am hoping this will work too.

I have revisited dmeg | grep firmware, there is a missing driver for an rtw_8822be
and also an error in the mwrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/r/rtl8821ce returned exit status 10

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

Well apt update gives me get:1 ... InRelease [39kb]
Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease
Err:3 ditto
404 Not Found[IP: 89.174.102.150 80]
last time it was a different ip address, with another 404
get:4 http:(as above) daedalus/main and64 Packages [8,948 kB]
Reding package lists... done
Then a warning about repository not having a release file, and the update cant be done securely

With broken wifi, and waiting for an ebay usb/ethernet dongle, copying is going to be painful and slow

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

Well I have been following instructions.

I have found out that it is not pulling in the non-free that is declared in the sources.list
it already had

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus          main contrib non-free

even before I did the update & upgrade tango

The scripts, even on this site call for linux-headers-$(uname-r), but for some reason, on this iso it does not work.
I have now found I do have the latest headers when I can fix the problem with gdebi on xfce.

But before that I need to fix the resolution. It has not pulled in the non-free, so presumably I need to force it to understand what hardware is present.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

Am I better off re-installing as Chimeara? Daedalus seems not quite ready yet for less mainstream kit.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

rolfie wrote:

Have a look at https://www.devuan.org/os/packages. For Daedalus the sources.list must contain the main repo line only.
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus          main contrib non-free
That will do the job.

Well it has that in the list, and somehow it has got the linux headers in advance of the current install:
uname -r by itself works, and tells me 6.0.0.6-amd64

whilst as part of a script it fails, grr,
but apt install linux-headers-6.0.0.6-amd64 tells me the system is already at the newest version, 6.0.12-1. which surely wont work?

well I removed all linux headers, then added
apt install linux-headers-6.0.0.6-amd64
and ended up with the same headers, so they must be right.

First step is getting the amd non-free binary installed I think.

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

well dmesg | grep firmware tells me that the firmware didnt get installed along the way.
The iso did give some error messages about a list that was missing, but that was two or three days ago

Ahh, just done an update again, and it tells me that deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates Release gives a 404, and then does not have a release file, so cannot update securely

So I need to fix the updates first so that it can get to non-free somehow, then I may be able to see what I am doing, these days I find the 1024x768 postage stamp display hard to work with...

etc/apt/sources.list has deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus(&-updates, on the next line) main contrib non-free ( all enabled)

Mike-thinky · Hardware & System Configuration

Hi

bought a cheap light laptop recently, trying to get Daedalus onto it currently.

The native resolution of the display is 1980x1080, BUT xrandr insists it is only capable of 1024x768, makes it hard to do things as it makes a lot less text visible, any tips to force it to behave? I found some posts from 2017, but it just said change the config, but did not name the files that held the config...

Also, currently the wifi does not work, so I need to update the realtek driver, but having problems getting xfce/thunar to run gdebi.

Also having problems getting linux-headers-$(uname -r) to work, it seems to not see the $(anything) part, any ideas how to fix that?

currently running the mobile tethered to it, so unable to easily copy across any info from it.

Any usable suggestions welcome, would like to learn how to fix these issues.

Mike-thinky · Installation

I tried again and it worked the second time, so just an unknown error along the way. I am now thinking it was either what you found or finger trouble.
The last few months I have done over 60 VM's just to try out the different flavours of OS available. This is one of the ones I want to stick with.

Mike-thinky · Installation

The idea was to spin up a bunch of different VM's to see which ones I would like to install properly later.
To that end it has worked quite well for me. I have seen a bunch I know I do not want to try.

Not yet ready for full on customisation, so I need it to be close to how I want my desktop to look.

also have used virtualbox before where the company I was working for at that time wanted a bunch of VM's to do some stuff while using windows boxes. Their company, their rules...

Mike-thinky · Installation

I have just tried
devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20221226_amd64_desktop.iso

in a Virtualbox VM, most of my other installs go smoothly, but this one has got stuck at the end of the install process.
I chose runit as the init system to try that out, but it might not be the cause of the problem.

It stops at the command line after the install is complete and it has kicked off the iso.
If I log in as me, the password is accepted, but startx does not do anything.

There are also mentions of apparmor during the boot process.

Mike-thinky · Other Issues

Ogis1975 wrote:

Hello. Just check
.xsession-errors
file (in /home/yourusername/ dir). If I'm not mistaken, the problem lies with the default keyboard keys...and more specifically to keybinding to show desktop. Just delete it, or assign to another one.

Bingo, and thanks.

BatteryChanged discharging: false chargeLevel: 100 actionTime: QTime(Invalid)
Starting idlenesswatcher
"PowerButton" "" ""
"SuspendButton" "" ""
"HibenateButton" "" ""
[Notice] Started
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 367, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 369, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 371, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 373, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Warning] Cannot grab shortcut 'Alt+F2'
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 695, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 697, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 699, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 701, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Warning] Cannot grab shortcut 'Alt+F1'
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 711, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 713, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 715, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Notice] X11 error: type: 0, serial: 717, error_code: 10 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)', request_code: 33 (GrabKey), minor_code: 0, resourceid: 380
[Warning] Cannot grab shortcut 'Control+Alt+D'
Missing chrome or resource URL: resource://gre/modules/UpdateListener.jsm
Missing chrome or resource URL: resource://gre/modules/UpdateListener.sys.mjs
These settings cannot work with your current window manager (Metacity (Marco))
These settings cannot work with your current window manager (Metacity (Marco))
Listener adapter polkit_qt_listener_initiate_authentication
GSimpleAsyncResult: 0x55aecb4ab600
polkit_qt_listener_initiate_authentication callback for  0x55aecb449200
REQUEST
COMPLETED
Listener adapter polkit_qt_listener_initiate_authentication_finish

Now I will be looking up which files set these keybindings.

I renamed the .xsession-errors file and rebooted, it does take about 20 secs to wake up, and generates an 8k file and the first errors are about dbus and wanting to start systemd!!!

dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument                 
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge                                   
dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument                 
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1                                                  
dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument                       
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting SHELL=/bin/bash                                                           
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1                                                        
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting LANGUAGE=en_GB:en                                                             
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0                                                            
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge

the next bit of going wrong seems to be:

Output:  "Virtual6"
Output:  "Virtual7"
Output:  "Virtual8"
New PolkitAgentListener  0x5572435cf000
Adding new listener  PolkitQt1::Agent::Listener(0x7fffc5d6adb0) for  0x5572435cf000
lxqt-config-monitor: Settings applied.
isPrimaryInstance

** (xiccd:3341): WARNING **: 18:57:39.708: EDID is empty

** (xiccd:3341): WARNING **: 18:57:39.725: EDID is empty
size of cached file QSize(1153, 768) , requiredSize: QSize(1153, 768)
origin "/usr/share/lxqt/themes/ambiance/Butterfly-Kenneth-Wimer.jpg"
QDBusMarshaller: cannot add an invalid QVariant
QDBusConnection: error: could not send message to service "org.freedesktop.login1" path "/org/freedesktop/login1" interface "org.freedesktop.login1.Manager" member "CanHibernate": Marshalling failed: Variant containing QVariant::Invalid passed in arguments
** Dbus error **************************

So that is the next things to google for.

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