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#1 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-17 10:25:08

dice wrote:

sorry, just an acronym for "today i learned".

Np, just first time I come across this:)

So does anyone have Pulse-audio related advice?

Sub-questions:
Should I replace it? With Alsa?
Pulse & Wine?
Pulse & DAWs (digital audio interfaces)?

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-14 11:31:32

I loaded the live boot devuan and run gparted from that, resized and everything seems fine:)

I don't get this:

til about dds images

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-14 11:09:43

I have parted but it still wouldn't let me without live boot. And it seems normal, since I want to reduce home and give to root, but both are in use while the system is running.

DDS is an image format similar to .tga I think, but it's not as easy to preview those. While modding games or designing crappy artwork for my music it helps a lot to preview many small icons while in their folders instead of loading all of them in gimp. I used Sagethumbs for that in windows, but search for linux alternatives is fruitless so far.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 16:58:35

It looks like I need to boot with Live install CD to run Gparted with mounted, running partitions. If I only change partition sizes sensibly, everything should be fine afterwards, right?

On the plus side I got some things working fine with wine. But some of them with no sound. Quick search linked the issues to Pulse Audio, which many seem to despise for generally being buggy and having delay. Should I use alsa or something else instead?

Also, is there any tool that allows viewing dds images without loading them to gimp?

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 14:47:59

When firstly checking about partitions and installations on guides for various distros I saw things like 4GB should be ok. I gave it more 11GB (just to be sure). But it also gave me the impression that installed programs would go to home, which I made large enough (about 100GB). Giving more to Root through Gparted seems easy.

Question is how should I spread the 120GB sda between root and home, since I'm not sure yet on what gets filled up at a faster rate. Do all linux programs go to root? At least for my set-up? People in the chat claimed the opposite so I'm confused. I still have 2 old 500GB NTFS drives with windows programs, pictures, music etc, so I can use those to store random (non-program) files.

#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 14:12:18

in wicd set the wireless interface to the adapter wlx28ee520d7ec2

that wlx interface is your tp link usb we got the address of from the command ip link.

This worked yay! Thanks a lot!

Returning to the next question, which should be the easiest (leaving the windows programs mess for later):

Root partition seems to fill up by installing synaptic packages (so I guess I can't be root user while doing that). I've tried with two games so far. Their main data folders go to /usr/share/. I suspect this is due to installing a single user system, other than that I can't think of anything else.

If this is the issue, I guess increasing root partition size might be the easiest, but not necessarily best solution.
If not, I'm clueless. Any advice on that?

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 14:00:18

dice wrote:

I dont know where to go from here sorry. I dont use wicd so im not much use, i rather command line apps like wpa-supplicant and iwd.

In wicd advanced options I found one about wpa-supplicant set to wext (with several other options).

Also found a guide saying if Wireless Interface is empty, set it to wlan0 (most common, but didn't work) or run iwconfig to find yours (resulted in command not found).

Any clue on those?

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 13:34:08

Still nothing comes up.

Edit:
In Wicd Preferences,
Wireless Interface is empty
Wired Interface says usb0

#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 13:11:05

I'd like to free the phone from being attached here so I can have internet. But it seems to support both wireless and tethering at the same time, since friend's pc gets net through the wireless hotspot while tethering.

I can't see any wireless networks. I also cannot set up one (not sure if that's normal or not at this stage).  Closing tethering didn't bring up any wireless in wicd either.

#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 12:55:19

I'm using friend's smartphone both for tethering and wireless hotspot. No router here.

I can't see the wireless network even when I'm not connected through tethering. Should I completely close tethering from the phone? I guess create new ad-hoc network won't help right?

#11 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 12:46:11

It returns nothing (It's hotspot btw, not through a rooter if this influences anything).

I also can't find it in wicd nor create a new wireless connection through it. Anything added becomes wired and I can't find an option to change to wireless.

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 11:40:50

Yup synaptic was the issue. I'm using wicd and tethering.

(among other, probably uneeded things):

firmware-atheros is already the newest version (20190114-2).
devuan@devuan:~$ ip link 
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether a0:48:1c:7b:15:64 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlx28ee520d7ec2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 28:ee:52:0d:7e:c2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
4: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
    link/ether ca:53:54:b7:77:da brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

In the meanwhile I retested this by getting free-civ.

fullofquestions wrote:

- I think I set up a single user on installation, could that be the reason Root (11Gb) got full pretty fast? Cause I noticed getting 0 A.D. from Synaptic put it's main data folders in /usr/share/ (I think, I've uninstalled it by now) and only some minor files in home.

Indeed the main data files of linux programs seem to go in /usr/share/ and not somewhere in /home.

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 11:36:07

I get this after the sudo apt install firmware-atheros command:
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it?

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-13 11:25:09

Thanks everyone for the help so far. i agree on focusing on the wifi first.

sources.ist is:

## package repositories
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security  main contrib non-free
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main
## source repositories
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main

There's also a sources.list.save which has the difference of not being updated (missing contrib non-free).
/etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty.

devuan@devuan:~$ lsusb
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04e8:6864 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9070 (network tethering, USB debugging enabled)
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 093a:2521 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Optical Mouse
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:0752 Microsoft Corp. Wired Keyboard 400
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 2357:010c TP-Link TL-WN722N v2
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

It looks like I've got atheros installed. Synaptic has firmware-atheros v20190114-2.

#15 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 20:51:33

golinux wrote:

The image I am getting of your quest is of someone who doesn't know how to swim trying to learn by jumping off a high board into the deeps of a very large lake.

I can't describe that as completely inaccurate, but I'm in a semi-rush due to RL reasons to get a couple of things working, even if I don't completely understand them and then I can learn little by little in the future.

#16 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 20:36:07

This is the kind of errors I'm getting with the wifi-drivers (this time trying the older version, but error looked similar anyway). Tutorials I've tried so far are either driver specific for Ubuntu/Mint or generic for Debian.

Btw is there a spoiler function in post options that I coudn't locate?

devuan@devuan:~/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417$ make clean
"******************************************"
"NO SKRC,we will use default KSRC"
"******************************************"
cd hal/OUTSRC/ ; rm -fr */*.mod.c */*.mod */*.o */.*.cmd */*.ko
cd hal/OUTSRC/ ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko 
cd hal/led ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
cd hal ; rm -fr */*/*.mod.c */*/*.mod */*/*.o */*/.*.cmd */*/*.ko
cd hal ; rm -fr */*.mod.c */*.mod */*.o */.*.cmd */*.ko
cd hal ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
cd core/efuse ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
cd core ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
cd os_dep/linux ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
cd os_dep ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
cd platform ; rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko
rm -fr Module.symvers ; rm -fr Module.markers ; rm -fr modules.order
rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko *~
rm -fr .tmp_versions
devuan@devuan:~/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417$ make
"******************************************"
"NO SKRC,we will use default KSRC"
"******************************************"
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/4.19.0-14-amd64/build M=/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417  modules
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-14-amd64'
"******************************************"
"NO SKRC,we will use default KSRC"
"******************************************"
  CC [M]  /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/core/rtw_cmd.o
In file included from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/osdep_service.h:41,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/drv_types.h:32,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/core/rtw_cmd.c:22:
/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/osdep_service_linux.h: In function ‘_init_timer’:
/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/osdep_service_linux.h:261:8: error: ‘_timer’ {aka ‘struct timer_list’} has no member named ‘data’
  ptimer->data = (unsigned long)cntx;
        ^~
/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/osdep_service_linux.h:262:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘init_timer’; did you mean ‘_init_timer’? [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
  init_timer(ptimer);
  ^~~~~~~~~~
  _init_timer
In file included from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/drv_types.h:35,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/core/rtw_cmd.c:22:
/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/wifi.h: At top level:
/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/wifi.h:988: warning: "IEEE80211_MAX_AMPDU_BUF" redefined
 #define IEEE80211_MAX_AMPDU_BUF 0x40
 
In file included from /usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common/include/net/cfg80211.h:24,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/osdep_service_linux.h:83,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/osdep_service.h:41,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/include/drv_types.h:32,
                 from /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/core/rtw_cmd.c:22:
/usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common/include/linux/ieee80211.h:1451: note: this is the location of the previous definition
 #define IEEE80211_MAX_AMPDU_BUF  0x100
 
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[4]: *** [/usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common/scripts/Makefile.build:309: /home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417/core/rtw_cmd.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [/usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common/Makefile:1568: _module_/home/devuan/Desktop/TL-WN722N_Linux/rtl8188EUS_linux_v4.3.0.8_13968.20150417] Error 2
make[2]: *** [Makefile:146: sub-make] Error 2
make[1]: *** [Makefile:8: all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.19.0-14-amd64'
make: *** [Makefile:1367: modules] Error 2

#17 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 19:09:39

I have non-free enabled since getting the nvidia-drivers. I also have the supposedly needed (but not sure to work), USB driver for TP-Link TL-WN722N, but I didn't manage to successfully install it following a guide. Plus an older version that should be specific for this adaptor model but for older kernels. There's also the option of swapping it with the TL-WN725N of a windows computer if that has better compatibility.

golinux wrote:

It might have been better to post separate threads for each issue.  I suspect that this thread will become hopelessly confused . . .

I hope I can handle a volume of concentrated posts. Not sure about others though. What bugs me so far is my unfamiliarity with the new system + terminology coupled with conflicting/varied opinions/tutorials and the terrible state of search engines nowadays.

#18 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Devuan in στα Ελληνικά, κανείς; » 2021-05-12 17:55:58

Καλησπέρα. Ψάχνω βοήθεια για κάποια θέματα ως αρχάριος. Αν το'χει/θέλει κανείς είναι σε αύτο το thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4327

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 15:54:07

System:
  Host: devuan Kernel: 4.19.0-14-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4
  Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF
  v: N/A serial: <root required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3397 serial: <root required>
  UEFI: Hewlett-Packard v: K01 v02.90 date: 07/16/2013
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-3470 bits: 64 type: MCP
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB
  Speed: 1597 MHz min/max: 1600/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1597
  3: 1596 4: 1596
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 driver: nvidia v: 418.181.07
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 1030/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 418.181.07
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio
  driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-14-amd64
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: a0:48:1c:7b:15:64
  Device-2: Samsung GT-I9070 (network tethering USB debugging enabled)
  type: USB driver: rndis_host
  IF: usb0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: ca:17:2f:7f:4d:93
  Device-3: TP-Link TL-WN722N v2 type: USB driver: r8188eu
  IF: wlx28ee520d7ec2 state: down mac: 28:ee:52:0d:7e:c2
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.02 TiB used: 411.65 GiB (39.5%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37120G size: 111.79 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0
  size: 465.76 GiB
  ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0
  size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 10.99 GiB used: 6.64 GiB (60.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
  ID-2: /home size: 98.00 GiB used: 2.81 GiB (2.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 14.65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdc2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 35 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Info:
  Processes: 176 Uptime: 5h 33m Memory: 11.68 GiB used: 1.73 GiB (14.8%)
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 15:31:16

Even with my limited computer knowledge I can largely agree. But I'd still like to try running Devuan + a few of my old software.

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 15:14:13

Aren't many software made for windows fine with wine and virtual machines?
Oh and I installed from Live Installer.

#22 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 15:08:35

I don't want to run official microsoft software if you mean that, just being able to run some .exe ones.

Machine Info:
Deleted to save space. See more detailed version a few posts bellow.

#23 Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 14:36:13

fullofquestions
Replies: 44

Hi, I've got some issues on which I'd like some help as a Linux/Devuan begginer.

- I need the drivers for wireless wi-fi adapter but so far I can't even install them. Are there possible issues with extraction paths while using the make/make all commands?

- I've got my old hard drive full of windows games and applications, many of which I'd still like to use. Most of them are from early 00s to mid 10s and all used to run fine in win7 64bit. Wine has been pretty annoying so far and I also don't have the installers for all of them. Would a Virtual Machine be more helpful, if so which one? I've got more or less 2015 era mainstream hardware.

- I think I set up a single user on installation, could that be the reason Root (11Gb) got full pretty fast? Cause I noticed getting 0 A.D. from Synaptic put it's main data folders in /usr/share/ (I think, I've uninstalled it by now) and only some minor files in home.

There are many sub-questions to the above but let's start with just those.

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