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#1 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2021-05-13 13:49:08

dice wrote:
anticapitalista wrote:
dice wrote:

That would be an interesting read considering the current situation in Jewish occupied Palestine.

You should say Zionist occupied Palestine. Judaism (religion) is not Zionism (colonialism).

I suppose so, isreali/zionist. But arent most zionists jewish? I get your point though, you cant say religion is to blame for these things, oh wait!

I'm reading a book about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD by the Roman armies under their commander Titus, son of Vespasian. It is supposedly an eyewitness account by Josephus, who was both a Jerusalem-born Jew and at times employed by the Romans. That's all I was referring to, not to any current conflicts or disputes. I don't watch divisive cable news broadcasts, so three word political memes about 'whom is occupying what' don't hold a lot of meaning for me.

Just thought I would state that for the record, I did not want anyone accusing me of starting a political side thread or doing anything to run this perfectly good book-reading thread off the rails. I appreciate the thread, dice, I hope we all pick up a lot of good book recommendations from it as it goes forward. Brilliant idea.

#2 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2021-05-11 23:58:18

The Wars of the Jews, or History of the Destruction of Jerusalem by Flavius Josephus, translated by William Whiston
Reading it in the terminal with my nifty little cli ebook reader, 'epy'.

#3 Re: Off-topic » awk help ? » 2021-05-11 18:14:24

I think that you are right that it is a ratpoison issue. I just checked and these commands are working on my standard DWM with dmenu when piped through dzen2, especially the forms with  "   " prepended. The tabbed forms "\t" are not as good as they create a space but fill it with a small box.

#4 Re: Off-topic » awk help ? » 2021-05-11 15:10:58

You can play around with printf, maybe that will give you something you can use:

uname -a | awk {'printf("%s\n", "   "$3,1)'}
uname -a | awk {'printf("%s\n", "\t"$3,1)'}

#5 Re: Off-topic » awk help ? » 2021-05-11 14:08:03

Another way you can do it is print it with a tab before the output:

$ uname -a | awk '{print substr("\t"$3,1)}'

#6 Re: Off-topic » awk help ? » 2021-05-11 14:00:46

I'm no awk wizard, but what works for me on the 'uname -a' command is to prepend the argument variable with "   ":

$ uname -a | awk '{print substr("   "$3,1)}'

#7 Re: Other Issues » nemo-dropbox??? » 2021-05-08 00:04:09

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ Were you using dpkg?

# apt install /full/path/to/.deb

^ That will install any dependencies automatically, providing they are available from the current sources.

No I don't usually install debs with dpkg on my personal machines, I prefer apt. It wanted to pull in a bunch of cinnamon desktop and other Minty stuff, and I couldn't be bothered any longer. I did not need it to run, I was just curious to see if I could easily install it with the one package. After the third failure and asking for more and more packages I grew bored with the whole endeavor.

#8 Re: Other Issues » nemo-dropbox??? » 2021-05-07 20:20:51

I tried installing the deb package from Mint Debbie on Beowulf today, and after the first 3 install failures it looked like I was headed into dependency hell, so I quickly gave up.

#9 Re: Off-topic » s6's Laurent Bercot plans "last piece of full alternative to systemd" » 2021-05-07 20:18:22

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

There was a discussion about s6 on the /devel mailing lists a while ago: …

Looks like Bercot managed to convince Ariadne and others between August 2020 and March 2021.

#10 Re: Installation » chimaera running with i3wm » 2021-05-05 16:15:25

dice wrote:
andyprough wrote:

distrotube's video today on dwm-flexipatch? Looks like a great way to try out various DWM patches quickly:

The dev also has flexipatches on his github page for dmenu, st, and slock.

I'm going to mess around with it briefly tonight on my Beowulf install.

That is a huge undertaking, very talented coder. Good use of C Preprocessor directives

Worked out well for me, no patching errors at all, which are pretty common with DWM patches in my experience.

#11 Re: Installation » chimaera running with i3wm » 2021-05-05 16:13:28

manyroads wrote:

Hi @andyprough.  Here's a link to my current wallpapers (active-folder).  The images are all from either unsplash or pixabay (mostly unsplash). … DFpla?dl=0

Wow, this is great! Thanks Mark! Looks like we have similar tastes, I had grabbed a couple of these from unsplash myself recently.

#12 Re: Installation » chimaera running with i3wm » 2021-05-05 04:11:20

manyroads wrote:

I'll post information on my install(s) soon (I think I'll wait until I get dwm operation in the same chimaera user space).

Hi Mark, did you see distrotube's video today on dwm-flexipatch? Maybe you knew about it already, but it's new to me. Looks like a great way to try out various DWM patches quickly:

The dev also has flexipatches on his github page for dmenu, st, and slock.

I'm going to mess around with it briefly tonight on my Beowulf install.

By the way, your i3 Chimaera looks really nice. Is that wallpaper something you could share?

#13 Off-topic » s6's Laurent Bercot plans "last piece of full alternative to systemd" » 2021-05-03 17:34:12

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Very interesting reading, with a big colorful comparison table to show the exact points where systemd fails and where openRC is inadequate, and where s6-rc is currently lacking functionality.

Bercot states his plans on how he can complete the building of s6-rc into a service manager that fulfills all the needs of a distribution, and that it will be the first tool to ever accomplish this feat. Says he needs a year and some funding, and that since s6 is the darling of the docker space, he expects that funding the project will be a huge benefit to some large cloudy companies. It's basically a funding proposal, but with a ton of useful data.

Alpine has come out strongly in favor of getting this project funded, and says their long-term goal is to adopt Bercot's s6-based solution: … or-alpine/

#14 Re: Off-topic » RotaJakiro backdoor that's been found in some systemd packages » 2021-05-02 18:26:00

Better writeup here in SecurityWeek: … ux-systems

"C2" in the article refers to "command and control servers".

#15 Off-topic » RotaJakiro backdoor that's been found in some systemd packages » 2021-05-02 18:20:34

Replies: 1

Anyone read the news on this RotaJakiro backdoor that was just discovered? It was found in 3 systemd-daemon packages: … ckdoor_en/

Sounds like it was very secretive, using rotating encryption to avoid detection. Might be the product of some state-sponsored hackery.

Here's a news writeup from TheRegister: … e_spotted/

#16 Devuan » Unexpected - Devuan on external Nvme out-performing MX on internal » 2021-05-01 14:09:13

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So I got a birthday gift of a big, fast 2TB Nvme stick recently, and bought a relatively expensive Nvme drive enclosure to use it as an external drive. I plugged it into a USB3 slot on my main laptop, partitioned it and installed Devuan to one large partition using normal installation procedure off of a live USB stick. Told uefi to boot to that partition first, and it worked. Tried it on the USB-C slot but this laptop won't boot from USB-C at this time. Bit of a shame because read/write speeds are more than double on USB-C.


What intrigued me is that the laptop is running better and snappier with this external Nvme on USB3 with Devuan than it does with MX on the internal Nvme stick. I wasn't sure it would run at all, but it is a beast. I've even run Windows in a vm on it and the performance was excellent.

The Nvme enclosure is a good one, stays cool all the time unless I'm transferring in excess of about 20-30gb of data, at which point it heats up a bit, but still not hot enough to be a concern. The enclosure is all metal with airflow vents and with thermal pads between the Nvme chip and the metal frame. The company making it is called "plugable", and apparently they used to make a model with a crappy chipset that overheated frequently, but since they moved their enclosure to a realtek chipset last year it's been reportedly staying cool and staying connected for other reviewers. I agree with this assessment. It was plug and play, no setup required.

I'm sure this Nvme will run much faster once I install it internally and replace the older Nvme. But in the meantime I'm enjoying it as a very fast portable. I'm going to try it on some other systems soon and see if it is totally portable, or if it will throw up errors when plugged into different systems than the one it was installed on.

I'm assuming the increased performance is because I'm simply using a better Nvme than whatever cheap one Asus put in this laptop. But it could also be that Devuan is significantly out-performing MX for some reason. I'd be curious to hear any of your thoughts.

#17 Re: Off-topic » ${THEY} continue crippling browsers... » 2021-04-30 14:49:42

blackhole wrote:

As a general rule - if the UI control is removed, the ability to tune that variable from the js will follow, then it will be a compiler flag, then gone altogether.

I think the fact that moonchild has been loudly and publicly stating for years that they would be breaking and removing the ability of legacy extensions to work should have been the first clue. The fact that he has been demanding people maintain their own legacy extensions or build new ones that will work with palemoon into the future should have been the second clue. And quite a few people have begun building and maintaining extensions. digdeeper is complaining about something that we all knew was coming for years. Like a lot of us, he likes his legacy extensions and thinks palemoon should support them forever, but that's not the goal of the project.

#18 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2021-04-29 02:53:12

Leonid & Friends - The Speck of Dust:
Ksenia Buzina looks like an elven goddess. And the song has some crazy Russian Arctic throat singing, which is not something you see every day.

#19 Re: Off-topic » ${THEY} continue crippling browsers... » 2021-04-29 02:45:44

digdeeper used to be completely in love with palemoon. Then they disabled one of his favorite extensions and he eventually went on a bit of a rampage against it. But palemoon didn't really even block the extension he was mad about, just made you flip a bit in about:config to be able to install it. For example, he's upset that they "blocked" noscript, but I was still using noscript with palemoon quite recently by flipping that bit in about:config.

digdeeper also dislikes palemoon because chief devs moonchild and Tobin are mean and nasty to people on the palemoon forum. I actually go and read the forum to see who moonchild and Tobin have flamed recently, it's quite amusing to me. But I'm weird that way.

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] noob-ish question » 2021-04-22 16:04:00

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
andyprough wrote:

Does that method require dbus?

Connecting via /etc/network/interfaces & ifupdown does not require dbus.

Nice! I need to start hacking the guts out of antiX again and give it another shot. I gave up too easily when connman wasn't responding.

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] noob-ish question » 2021-04-22 15:29:02

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Rpisp wrote:

I may use that d/l to save on some installation time for my minimal desktop

Note that ♯! is based on Debian and so uses systemd. For a systemd-free openbox-based distribution try CROWZ, MIYO, Star or ThomOS.

Rpisp wrote:

connman vs nm

They're both bloat. Use /etc/network/interfaces instead: … d_WPA2-PSK

Does that method require dbus? You could use eiwd, which is iwd without dbus:
Then I believe you could use iwctl to make connections. This is all theoretical, I haven't tried it yet. Might be worth trying though. Last time I removed dbus from antiX, I had everything basically working except networking.

#22 Re: Off-topic » youtube-dl tutorial » 2021-04-21 15:46:49

dice wrote:

Hope that made sense, maybe someone smarter than me knows a better way.

Yes, that works. I checked one download on both my phone through NewPipe as a small opus file, and with your opus download method, and I got the same file size with each download. I'll try a few more, but I think that you've got it figured out. It's about 1/5 the size of the same file using an mp3 download, which is a big difference especially for long audio files that could otherwise fill up available space quickly.

Having a thumbnail is not something I need for podcasts and lectures. Thumbnails help to quickly tell which song is playing at a glance, but for a longer podcast or lecture I wouldn't need it.

#23 Re: Off-topic » ${THEY} continue crippling browsers... » 2021-04-20 16:15:25

snork wrote:

[sarcasm]Awesome... I'm sure they're dropping FTP in order to make room for great new features like Bonzi Buddy![/sarcasm]

No - even better (or worse depending on your viewpoint): "Firefox 88 now supports PDF forms that have JavaScript embedded in PDF files... Apparently JS in PDF is a thing for form validation and other interactive elements." … 8-Released

I mean - what could possibly go wrong?

#24 Re: Off-topic » youtube-dl tutorial » 2021-04-20 15:37:28

How about making a "yt-webm" or "yt-opus" (or similar) for downloading and playing lower-quality audios. For downloading lectures and podcasts where quality doesn't matter but getting a small file size is more important. I use this option a lot with the NewPipe app on my phone, which gives me a 50kbps opus option as the lowest quality download. Would there be many changes to make in your method besides the --audio-format option?

#25 Re: Off-topic » youtube-dl tutorial » 2021-04-19 23:05:29

This is fantastic! Awesome way to organize a song collection, thank you very much.

I'm using 'ytfzf -L <song name>' to find the url's for the songs, and then yt-mp3 to download them. ytfzf is a very cool ytdl search tool:

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