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Oh, and I don't think there's any problem with my website. With as many articles as it contains, it is a virtual (pun intended) magnet for scrapers, scammers, hackers, and all types of lowlife. That's why so much of the world is blocked from even seeing it, let alone trying to break into it.
But, if you write to me at compewterbob@compewterbob.com (change the spelling to how it SOUNDS), and tell me who you are, and your IP Address, I can manually try to unblock you, without opening the door to any bad people that are sitting near you. ![]()
I JUST GOTIT WORKING AGAIN. Networking, my 5,990-post web site and all of its backups, Wordfence, FTP, etc. My thousands of previous email messages are gone, but Thunderbird is properly configured to start all over, saving everything from now on again. UPDATE: I just got my existing emails back! 2:17PM.
WAY too much stress. I didn't even have any way to get any new emails, view any URLs, or APT anything (no candidates available) til a few minutes ago, and, because I had no internet, no bookmarks, no passwords, NOTHING, I couldn't even login to read your many kind messages.
Thank you all very much for your concern and attempts to help me, even though my PC was way beyond any sort of help, except just research, trial and error, research, trial and error, research, trial and error, guessing, observation, luck, fear, and sleeplessness.
I WOULD GUESS THAT nobody can mess up a PC as completely as a guy who's had 2 strokes, BUT STILL THINKS THAT HE CAN "FIX STUFF."
A piece of advice for everyone: Don't ever have a stroke, let alone two of them. They do absolutely terrifying things to your brain, and its ability (inability) to try to solve problems. This one took me almost a month to solve.
Thanks again, everyone!
I just spent nearly 2 hours at https://www.devuan.org/os/keyring.
EVERY. SINGLE. THING. THAT. COULD. GO. WRONG.
The Daedelus keyring ALWAYS downloaded for me as a 0 bytes file.
Following the instructions on that page, I got yelled at for Bad paths, unexpected end of file, and about 10 other things.
I must have tried those instructions, over and over, from start-to-finish AT LEAST 35 TIMES.
I gotta get some sleep. ;(
HOLD OFF -- I THINK I MAY FINALLY BE ON THE RIGHT TRAIL. Who knows? ![]()
Yes, I'm still here. For the past 2 weeks, I've spent untold number of hours, trying to figure out how to replace my Devuan Daedalus keyrings (or at least whichever ones allow APT and Synsptic to do more than complain at me).
No matter where I go, every repo (including the Devuan ones) scold me that they can't help me, because I don't have any keyrings. Nope my "keyrings" folder is empty.
Don't ask me how it happened. I'm way too burned out to even try to explain. I just need to make it UN-happen, without totally re-installing Devuan Daedalus.
I've found lots and lots of OLD, useless information and advice. I've found HOUR and HOURS of DEBIAN advice, even though I make it very clear that my searches are for "devuan".
I even found several different LONG, LONG text files that may be related, or they may even BE keyring information. But that's all -- no one ever explains what I should do with those files. Save them as something? Put them in some root folder somewhere?
Yes, I'm really, really frustrated. That's why, after all this time, if there is nothing I can do about it, I'm going to give up on APT and Synaptic, and just keep running this old, Daedalus PC without any updates, until either it, or I, quit running.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me to FIX THIS PROBLEM. I trust you guys (and gals).
Ironically, my father worked that job until retirement, but he never learned anything about running any kind of corporate computer, PC, or how to use one to do anything.
He was an expert "car mechanic," but never knew how to drive...
My father was a Senior CE (customer engineer) for IBM back in the old days. He used to have to wear a WHITE (not light blue!) shirt, and a tie, to go from client to client, and CRAWL through their mainframe computers, to physically remove actual BUGS, replace burned-out vacuum tubes, replace tape drives, etc. I remember the first time that he showed me a big metal box, sitting in the trunk of his car. At the time, he told me that it was IBM's newest mainframe computer. No crawling around inside that thing. LOL!
Thank you, again, for your knowledgeable, thoughtful, kindness!
Just in case anyone wonders why I seem a little "slow," I was a college professor, teaching several computer applications courses to 200 students every semester, plus instructors, administrators and other educators, at regional, state and national conferences, for several years.
Then, I had two strokes -- the first one in my early 50s.
Now, I can ask questions, sometimes slowly figure things out, and occasionally even remember what I had for lunch. ![]()
Now you know why I'm so grateful that people here are so patient, helpful, and friendly to me!
WOW! I'm very happy and GRATEFUL for ALL OF EVERYONE'S RESPONSES.
I downloaded the tar a few months ago, but I was unable to extract that type of compressed file -- and if I HAD been able to, I would've been terrified to try to follow Mozilla's cryptic, confusing (to me) instructions and hope that I didn't mess it all up.
I'm in no hurry to switch. I'm perfectly happy waiting for the Debian/Devuan process to eventually provide the correct package. But I didn't understand why it felt like Mozilla was pressuring me into switching it MANUALLY myself, to try to avoid being "stuck" in esr version permanently, and I incorrectly thought that everyone else must have either chosen to follow Mozilla's manual upgrade instructions, OR everyone else knew how to get the upgraded package that (for some reason), I had been unable to find!
Now I understand! Thanks, everyone! You guys (or girls) are THE GREATEST!
Yes, I did! Thank you for asking! I can't remember what I did to fix it, but I remember that I was surprised at how simple it turned out to be, like deleting the extra splash screen from the boot parameters, and then rebooting.
I've spent the past few months, on and off, trying to figure out how to change my up-to-date Daedelus computer from Thunderbird esr version (currently 128.14.0esr (64-bit) to the current (142?) Release Channel version.
I keep finding all of the same circular reasoning, with pages of prerequisites, technical requirements, and confusing (to my 2-stroked brain), and exhausting-to-even-consider steps, that could EASILY brick my entire email setup and thousands of stored messages!
Since when has it been SO DIFFICULT to make that Thunderbird "channel" change??
In everything I find, Mozilla keeps enthusiastically "threatening" my that I need to do it anyway!
Scroll down this search page,
(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22devuan%22+ … 3-1&ia=web)and it even says that Devuan HAS a Release version 142 package! But I don't see anyone discussing it, and I can't find it online anywhere?
Yes, years ago, I taught computer courses for years, at several colleges in several states.
Then, I had 2 strokes, in my 50s and early 60s.
So now, my brain is like a ping-pong ball-sized ball of swiss cheese, floating around inside my skull.
Is it really as DIFFICULT as it feels to me?
Where is the DEVUAN Thunderbird 142 package, and why is no one apparently even talking about this subject?
I'm here almost every day, trying to keep up with important stuff. I almost always quietly lurk in the spaces between the lines! ![]()
My best to everyone. You guys (gals) are great. That's why I'm still here.
To me, the joke thread was always "Meh." I never even looked at it.
Who is this message written to? And what is this message answering?
Last weekend, I finally had the courage to upgrade my Chimaera PC to Daedalus, by carefully following the step-by-step instructions that I found on the Devuan main site.
No big problems. Just minor stuff, like still seeing the Chimaera desktop background image, and having to look for the replacement default Daedalus desktop background images.
All together, it was the smoothest, most trouble-free upgrade I've ever installed in Devuan (and I started with ASCII, years ago).
So far after a week, everything in Daedalus seems to work perfectly, and it's very trouble-free.
But one thing that I couldn't figure out is that when Devuan first boots up, I see the normal GRUB menu, but before my desktop appears, I see two of what I think are called "splash screens," a new Daedalus one AND the old Chimaera one.
I've just been living with it that way, because, except for making me wonder what went wrong in the upgrade, it doesn't cause any trouble at all. So, if there isn't a simple fix for it, I'll just live with it the way it is.
But is there a simple fix for it?
^^^^^^
Same here.
caps lock key?
Thanks, chris2be8 and rayburn,
I already knew those tips, but then again, you two didn't know that I already knew them and even understood why they make sense. ![]()
So your tips were very right-on and very appreciated.
And, to be perfectly honest, it's probably only a matter of time before I won't know those things any more, so reminders are a good thing for me. ![]()
Thanks, again!
WOW!
I'm really thankful for what I can tell is your excellent explanation. This morning, I am able to START to understand its details. Not enough to actually USE your suggestions, but at least I am starting to understand.
This morning, I watched a few YouTube videos on grsync, and I'm thinking of trying that to simply backup only my DATA to my external USB hard drive. It appears to be A LOT easier and less complicated to use than my old, existing rsync script, and it may be exactly what I want/need for THAT purpose.
I don't have any knowledge of installing/using any type of virtualbox, and my only other computer is my wife's computer. But I can never risk trying anything on that, because my wife has worked from home for many years, for a company that's hundreds of miles away, using that computer.
Yes, I got that all set up for her, back when I knew what I was doing. ![]()
But I don't know what I'm doing any more, to be able to recreate her computer's setup, if I were to do anything that messed it up.
So I will continue to let my brain "heal" from my recent backup/restore fiasco, and see if I eventually get to the point where I am willing to buy a used PC, to use for experimenting with backing up and restoring my computer's system files. ![]()
THANK YOU for understanding my condition and situation, and THANK YOU for your replies!
Cool! Thank you!
I just got as far as your rsync command itself, and I felt my eyes glaze over! ![]()
But it looks like it could be a good possibility for my future.
Because my brain is still too exhausted to actually read and understand your rsync command, could you tell a couple of things?
Would your rsync script backup my / only, or would it also backup my separate /home (with all of my newly-restored data in it)?
Did you include a "restore" script in your post? Again, my brain cells are currently still too full to even try to look. ![]()
Once you somehow restore your backup to your local (or network) computer, what do you have to do to get it to boot, other than just use rsync to copy all of the system files into place? That's the part that still ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIES me. I've always felt very safe when my system is backed up, but I've recently learned (from my long and bitter experience) that a backup does me no good unless I can RESTORE it so that it will work. ![]()
AGAIN, THANK YOU! ![]()
Thanks for reading my lo--ong post (!!!), AND FOR REPYING!
I also appreciate your tips about installing the command-line versions of Refracta.
After all the trouble that I just experienced, I don't know if I'll EVER have the courage to even TRY any sort of system backup again. I'm still kind of trembling, even after a couple hours of nervously watching TV.
For now, I'll just "live life," and if the idea eventually takes hold in my brain, I may try to figure out how to edit my rsync steps that I've used for years to backup only my DATA, so that they will work with my restored backup data's new location.
(In reality, that feeling may be mostly result of "shell shock." Maybe I'll change my mind some day, and want to try backing up my fully-configured system again.)
If I do, I'm sure that your suggestions will come in very handy. Thank you.
Yes, I searched for "linux" and "refracta." That's why I kept finding stuff about Refracta Linux. I may be stupid, but I'm not dumb. ![]()
In the past 2 days, I've spent 24 harrowing hours on this issue. Yes, you read that correctly. Twelve hours a day for two days.
NOW, I'm finally up and running again.
No matter what I tried, NOTHING would see my separate data partition.
This morning, I finally restored a 3-month-old backup of all of my data to a completely different place inside my home folder, which is mounted separately.
I think my problem is that I used to know a lot more about this stuff.
I used to be able to do a fresh install, and then -- with a couple of commands -- see all of my data.
Not so any more. It's been several years since I had to do it (I've done dist-upgrades for many years). I just don't remember the magic that I used to use to see my data.
None of this is anyone's problem but my own.
As for Refracta Snapshot and Refracta Installer, once I was able to find and APT install the installer, BOTH worked really quickly and easily.
Until that LAST step of the installer, when I thought it was going to congratulate me on restoring my snapshot, but instead, it gave me a lecture about BIOS and GPT and boot, and partitions. Other people probably know what to do. I didn't.
So I spent several hours, trying to get past the bootup black screen with the grub prompt.
Using my wife's PC, I found an excellent how-to by Carla Shroeder. Step-by-step instructions. Easy to understand.
I followed every step. EVERY STEP. Still got the grub prompt.
At the end of Carla's article, it says something like, "If you STILL can't get it to work, you'll need to use something like Super Grub2."
So, I downloaded Super Grub 2. It saved as an image (picture) file. When I tried to open it, my wife's computer spit up, trying to open it with LibreOffice Draw or GIMP or something.
So, I re-downloaded it. But when I tried to boot from it, the end of the boot process suddenly stopped and said something about waiting for the internet. Multiple boots, same problem.
That was how EVERYTHING went for me, for 2 DAYS. Run as fast as you can, and then suddenly slam into a wall. Sheesh.
Long story short, a fresh install, plus restoring 3-month-old backups, and many hours of painstaking configuration, finally got my system back to exactly where it was 3 days ago.
Don't ever have two strokes, if you can help it. ![]()
Thanks if you tried to help me, or if you bothered to read this entire rant.
I used APT to install refractainstaller-gui
and now Refracta Installer appears in my System menu, along with Refracta Snapshot.
Now I'll see if it works, or if maybe there's some other problem, maybe caused by Ventoy?
Thanks for the link to Refracta documentation. I've been looking for that since last night. Unfortunately, "Refracta" searches also turn up many links to the Refracta operating system.