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#1 Re: Other Issues » elogind update problem » 2021-10-27 17:58:57
Seatd is already available in Dadalus. Is it ready for replacing elogind?
#2 Re: Devuan » Test Testing version » 2021-10-27 17:37:05
Hi again @golinux,
First, excuse me to change the subject a bit.
Since we are talking about packages, currently Firefox and Thunderbird are at version 78.
How can I contribute builds from newer versions, like 91.golinux wrote:Those are packages with systemd dependency that are prevented from installing. Those systemd-dependent packages that are essential for Devuan are forked by Devuan devs. Devuan-specific as well as forked packages are found here.
If there is a package on that list that you want, you are welcome to contribute to Devuan by forking it.
I am using Ubuntuzilla repo for latest Firefox since ascii release. It installs on /opt; thus isolating from Devuan/Debian installation path.
You can use following lines in /etc/apt/sources.list:
I cannot absolutely guarantee it, since it's a 3rd party repository. YMMV.
# Ubuntuzilla for Firefox browser
deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all mainIf the above auto resolver persistently selects slow mirrors, try below line, instead of above:
deb https://altushost-swe.dl.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all main#3 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-26 03:35:30
So you have installed the xwayland package, right?
EDIT: use foot in Wayland, it's just as "light" as xterm and it doesn't need XWayland.
I think it's something else. Of course, Xwayland is installed. But, don't know how many apps will not be working. It is not alone 2-3 apps that are not working. I can provide any details needed. But, no way to figure out why Wayland is not working, when it is perfectly fine for a Ubuntu 21.10 with Gnome-40 in another system.
#4 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-25 15:11:15
No solutions, that worked. 
#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-23 15:04:42
Many software seems to not work. Add Google-earth-pro to the list. I can see that the program is launched, but no GUI.
~$ ps aux |grep earth
devuan 9893 0.0 0.0 6768 3304 pts/0 S+ 20:31 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/google-earth-pro
devuan 9896 8.0 0.8 395600 71420 pts/0 Sl+ 20:31 0:00 /opt/google/earth/pro/googleearth-binSame with synaptic-pkexec.
~$ ps aux |grep synaptic
devuan 9932 0.0 0.0 2432 672 pts/1 S+ 20:32 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec
root 9933 2.2 1.4 472600 120112 pts/1 Sl+ 20:32 0:01 /usr/sbin/synapticEDIT: Context: not working on wayland session. In Xorg this apps works.
Even xterm, too doesn't work in Wayland Gnome sessions:
:~$ ps aux |grep xterm
devuan 10712 0.1 0.1 24588 10312 pts/0 S+ 12:57 0:00 xterm
devuan 10734 0.0 0.0 6192 2284 pts/2 S+ 12:57 0:00 grep --color=auto xterm#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-22 16:32:25
Synaptic is not working with above method. Synaptic as local user works; But neither synaptic-pkexec nor sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic works.
#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-22 05:58:46
Have you enabled Wayland support?
MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 firefoxIf that works then add the variable to /etc/environment (or in it's own file under /etc/environment.d/).
EDIT: are we having fun yet?
Yes, Firefox worked with the above environment variable set. However, I have to add MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 in /etc/environment file, not under /etc/environment.d/..
Google Chrome works with following lines, when invoked from terminal.:
/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform --ozone-platform=wayland
However, there are many offending applications including synaptic which refuse to run even with xhost +si:localuser:root. Synaptic without root shows up with above option. Not synaptic-pkexec.
#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-21 17:48:59
Browsers works fine in Gnome shell Xorg session. Problem occurs when using wayland session.
#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-21 16:30:35
Yes, /var/lib/dbus/machine-id exists. /etc/machine-id is missing. Symbolic link needs to be forced? I tried with ln -s and it did not seem to work.
#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-21 15:56:32
Upgraded to Daedulus. Browsers (Firefox, Chrome) not working. I can trace below messages from terminal:
:ERROR:browser_dm_token_storage_linux.cc(94)] Error: /etc/machine-id contains 0 characters (32 were expected).
and..
there is no /etc/machine-id file after the upgrade! BTW, I'm using openRC init on this system.
#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-20 05:14:06
OK. Not choosing apt-pinning. I will switch to testing distribution.
But, How can I upgrade to testing (Daedalus)? Should I put only this line in /etc/apt/sources.list, after backing up Beowulf sources.list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free
OR
if this line also needed?
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
#12 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-10-19 03:51:02
Devuan Chimaera running Gnome-3.38
Planning upgrade to Gnome-40 from testing repo using apt-pinning.
#13 Desktop and Multimedia » apt-pinning for Gnome-40 packages from Daedalus with Chimaera? » 2021-10-19 03:44:18
- Debuser2018
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I used to run Debian testing with Sid with apt-pinning really long back. Recently, no experience with apt-pinning and I see some configuration files are need to be placed under directories. Example is apt.conf, /etc/apt/preferences.d/ .
So, what I want to achieve is Gnome-40 available in Testing installed in my Stable Chimaera. Any guidance. What I'm not sure is, if Daedalus is active with security updates etc available.
EDIT: Chose to upgrade to Daedalus (Testing) distro.
#14 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Apt-get update error during Chimaera upgrade » 2021-10-17 05:16:39
A simple Google search gave this result:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/227258/ … -conf-file
I think there is no dependency hell, rather some missing or conflicting modules or conf files that needs to be sorted. It is achievable.
#15 Re: Installation » Is it possible to use pipewire in devuan 4? » 2021-10-16 16:35:27
@Ogis1975: Thanks for the info. I will wait, rather.
#16 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Apt-get update error during Chimaera upgrade » 2021-10-16 16:33:50
This is a sample Chimaera /etc/apt/sources.list:
# Devuan chimaera
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main
# chimaera-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main
# A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan chimaera-proposed main contrib non-free
# Google Chrome & earth pro
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
# Ubuntuzilla for Firefox browser
# deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/projec … ozilla/apt all main
deb https://altushost-swe.dl.sourceforge.ne … ozilla/apt all main
#17 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Apt-get update error during Chimaera upgrade » 2021-10-16 16:26:29
hi, i'm trying to upgrade to Chimaera from beowulf and encountered the following during apt update:
root@htpc-devuan:/home/erdos/Downloads# apt-get update Get:1 [url]http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb[/url] stable InRelease [1,807 B] Get:2 [url]https://repo.skype.com/deb[/url] stable InRelease [4,502 B] Err:1 [url]http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb[/url] stable InRelease The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 78BD65473CB3BD13 Get:3 [url]https://repo.skype.com/deb[/url] stable/main amd64 Packages [2,256 B] Get:4 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera InRelease [33.8 kB] Get:5 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera-updates InRelease [26.4 kB] Get:6 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera-security InRelease [21.3 kB] Get:7 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera/main i386 Packages [8,247 kB] Get:8 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera/main amd64 Packages [8,309 kB] Get:9 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera/main Translation-en [6,482 kB] Get:10 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera-updates/main Translation-en [2,108 B] Get:11 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera-security/main i386 Packages [48.0 kB] Get:12 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages [48.0 kB] Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: [url]http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb[/url] stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 78BD65473CB3BD13 E: The repository 'http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb stable InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. root@htpc-devuan:/home/erdos/Downloads#i believe i installed zoom and google-earth through .deb package. is this a concern for continuing upgrade to chimaera?
I assume you're using amd64 (64-bit intels or amd processor). Make sure Google repositories look like this in /etc/apt/sources.list or inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ :
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Add missing GPG key as root:
sudo -i
Then,
wget -q -O - https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add -
apt update && apt upgrade
#18 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Apt-get update error during Chimaera upgrade » 2021-10-16 16:18:24
Debuser2018 wrote:Remove all the 5.x kernels and kernel headers and retry.
apt purge linux-headers-5.10.0-9-amd64 linux-headers-amd64both
apt purge linux-headers-5.10.0-9-amd64 linux-headers-amd64
apt install -f
are success, but dpkg --configure -a still ends with error.
As you see dkms has compiled some modules in the library. Inspect & Remove these directories ('/usr/share/doc/lin
ux-headers-amd64,/lib/modules/5.10.0-9-amd64) & retry.
rm /usr/share/doc/linux-headers-amd64 && rm /lib/modules/5.10.0-9-amd64
dpkg --configure -a && sync
As regarding the dpkg warnings about missing PATH variables, you may look into: https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … h-variable
#19 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Apt-get update error during Chimaera upgrade » 2021-10-16 15:46:38
Remove all the 5.x kernels and kernel headers and retry.
apt purge linux-headers-5.10.0-9-amd64 linux-headers-amd64
#20 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Apt-get update error during Chimaera upgrade » 2021-10-16 09:50:00
GlennW wrote:linux-image-amd64 is a "Task" package, enables updates for your amd64 kernel.
What you do need is Guile, dkms, linux-headers and linux-headers-common to suit your kernel version, linux-image-5.10.0-9-amd64 (5.10.70-1) installed to get your nvidia drivers/modules installed and running.
thanks for the reply!
I try to install 'Guile-3.0', but it seems to indicating that linux-image-5.10.0-9-amd64 isn't properly installed/configured. i can boot into 4.19 kernel for now but 'apt-get dist-upgrade' results the same error. trying to remove 'nvidia-persistenced' package also results the same error.
Try as root or sudo:
apt install -f
and dpkg --configure -a
and if the problem is not resolved, try removing the kernel packages and install nvidia dependencies and later install kernel.
apt purge linux-image-5.10.0-9-amd64
#21 Re: Installation » Is it possible to use pipewire in devuan 4? » 2021-10-15 05:00:23
Is it possible to use pipewire instead of pulseaudio in Chimaera?
#22 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2021-08-27 06:18:38
I tried updating kernel to 5.10.0-0.bpo.8-amd64 and it went fine. Except that, on next boot after detecting the wireless dongle with MT7601U, system waited for 2 minutes or so, before resuming boot process. If I press CTRL+Z, it will skip the configuration and complete booting. The same problem existed the last time also - https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3621
I already found the problem package is "modemmanager". I purged modemmanager and it resulted in removing usb-modeswitch also. With 5.x kernel, this needs modemmanager to be removed.
#23 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Gnome 3.30 on Beowulf working in wayland & Xorg » 2021-07-22 08:07:34
After almost an year, I did a fresh install of Beowulf using network install with Gnome. All went well and Gnome is so far working fine. Of course, has to manually select the packages I needed. And, gdm3 is the display manager.
#24 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2020-10-06 07:17:53
From past weeks, I'm also using FreeBSD-12.1 on my desktop. It is a very interesting OS, and unlike last time, they have packages available and a nifty tool - pkg to install & manage packages. Gnome 3 is old at 3.28.3 and uses Consolekit2.
I have also seen Gnome-3.34 is working fine in OpenBSD with Consolekit2. Will Devuan Gnome-3 works with Consolekit/2.
#25 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Enabling rc_parallel=YES in OpenRC? I am not sure, if it is working? » 2020-08-02 19:49:31
@Geoff 42: Yeah. When parallel enabled, the boot messages are messed up. But, I heard we can use lighter init software with openRC. Like runit. Not sure whether these are any better, though.
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