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#1 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-09-06 20:31:48

OptiPlex-330 4GB Mem 3.3Ghz from 2007. After 15 years of use, finally dead. R.I.P.

It started with WindowsXP/7. 2012 Ubuntu, Linux Mint, #!, Debian. Since 2017 or so it held Devuan for five years, two on testing.
The pic above and this later are the last photo for memory.
A week ago i updated it successfully and poweroff.

Today once i pressed start front button i saw the static orange lights no# 3 and 4, Also the front led indicator it appear on orange not green.
I don't get a beep from system once i powered on so i can blame the ram. RAM i believe it was OK by the tests i did few months ago. So, once i wake up the system i heard two strong fan spining then a dead silence. I suspect the motherboard or power supply laid to rest. I could take it somewhere to see who's parts failing, i think being too old it's not worth at all. So i let it go for the best. Tomorrow ready for scrap. Bye bye OptiPlex-330.

OptiPlex-5080 I haven't installed Devuan yet, one day i will on this or other tower.
Therefore, I will be absent with my scrots posts. However, I will be present as a member to comment others.

#2 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-08-15 17:58:10

A successful month on Tumbleweed.
link to the wallpaper.

#3 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-07-17 20:04:18

Nearly done with Xfce

Out of nowhere, for no serious reason cast away Fedora for openSUSE Tumbleweed.
If everything goes fine, I'll keep it until can walk...

#6 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-23 10:49:08

Devuan (Testing)

Completion of XFCE4 continues, so far i have set system sounds, notifications, gvfs to boost trash, SMB volumes and storage supports on a file manager or to a desktop despite the fact that i do not like to populate this place at all, pulseaudio to adapt Firefox Nightly sounds, exchanged some standalone applications with XFCE apps. Last but not least Zram enabled.

Credits as above

Orchis-theme | Tela-icon-theme | Bibata_Cursor | Enchanted-Complete-System-Sounds | IBM-plex-fonts/cascadia-code | ZRam
As usual thanks to Joe Motohashi for the backgrounds that is used as auto change from XFCE Desktop settings.

Fedora Workstation

#7 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-14 10:21:39

XFCE A little more complete while staying minimalist.

#8 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] install offline ATOM editor » 2022-06-07 13:48:36

SpongeBOB wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to install ATOM offline

Is atom install file is in Devuan repo ?

i've looked here -> … m&x=submit

but it seem not (not sure It's necessary in order to have it running correctly ?)

Yes, that's correct to search a package or application by enter his name to the box and hit enter/submit, apparently atom it's not in the Devuan repository.

I just checked even at Debian tracker, atom does not exist.
The causes can be different ie conflicts with Debian policies or somethingelse that you can ask the author of the application.

There is no other way but to compile it or find a snap, flatpak for it.

#9 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-07 13:11:05


Haven't used a DE on many years to my old Core2 Duo. I made a check yesterday to XFCE following Devuan Minimal XFCE install
I installed the whole first part, and xfce4-appfinder from 2nd part.
The rest of adds from XFCE i don't need it, mostly have it from gnome apps or selective independent tools.

This is really bare-bone 330MB, well suited for old desktops.

Used Orchis-theme / Tela-icon / Bibata-cursor / Joe(s) Motohashi(c) background. I will keep this until it works.

#10 Re: Off-topic » Attention! MESA No more OpenGL Drivers Support for i915 » 2022-06-05 16:48:23

Thanks for your handy contribution as always HoaS, I can't use it or test it at the moment, but i'll do it another time and i'll report it back if I have no other choice at the table.

At the moment i'm waiting Debian to act on this case will they decide to put mesa-amber on the Debian repository, otherwise i will come directly here to install locally.

#11 Re: Off-topic » Attention! MESA No more OpenGL Drivers Support for i915 » 2022-06-03 14:33:07

The last E8600 Core 2 Duo that i still own was the most powerful processor back in the day (a decade ago).

With the final removal of the Mesa i915 dri maybe it's time to say Adieu! although i really find it difficult to leave it as usually i break and fix many things on this desktop smile

#12 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-03 14:00:34

Ogis1975 wrote:

Very interesting and original solution. I thought it was used for debugging. Maybe I'll have to try it someday.

Yeah go for it, It can safety used as a single WM. For mouse enthusiasts, Wayland display server and X11 window manager, compositor standalone, smooth and very minimalistic WM. Overall just a fine couples with tint2.

I did not notice any concern on my tests, even on my old Core 2 Duo 8600 liked it despite significant lack of basic configurations Openbox/Fluxbox that have, it is a pretty simple Wayland display server another worth reason to check it.


#13 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-03 08:34:24

sudo wrote:

Thanks, maybe I should try it!

Any time, post any feedback or scrot if you made anything with mutter alone  smile

To stick on the topic

Dark Nord


Themes/Icon Nordic/Nordzy
Fonts GUI/Term mononoki/bigblue
Wallpaper game nordified with ImageGoNord

#14 Off-topic » Attention! MESA No more OpenGL Drivers Support for i915 » 2022-06-03 08:30:35

Replies: 7

Proposal Raised For Dropping Mesa's Classic OpenGL Drivers From Mainline This Year

This was the news 3 months ago at phoronix … assic-Main

It means that Mesa drivers will stop supporting i915, i965, r100, and r200 drivers.

Debian/Devuan LTS > Not affected yet <


Yesterday, from Devuan/Debian testing libgl1-mesa-dri (21.3.8-1) upgraded to libgl1-mesa-dri (22.0.3-1 and others).
Version 22 of MESA is the start of dropping support for old classic DRI drivers.

Once i upgraded to version 22, i saw that i can't use mpv with vo=gpu, picom --vsync, i got errors from xorg, and a few other graphics glitch.

17.584] (II) Initializing extension GLX
[17.593] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/ failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/ cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[17.593] (EE) AIGLX error: unable to load driver i915

Do you have an ancient hardware pre 2012? be careful, next Debian/Devuan daedalus/bookworm release will not have any more i915 dri support. Before locking your old-hardware on the garage, make sure mesa is the version 21.3.8-1 the last to be used.

Bookworm says 21.3.8-1 but infact my daedalus updates says otherwise

0 + nili@devuan ~ $ apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri
  Installed: 22.0.4-1
  Candidate: 22.0.4-1
  Version table:
 *** 22.0.4-1 500
        500 daedalus/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

> bookworm Package: libgl1-mesa-dri (21.3.8-1) with i915 support … i/filelist

> sid Package: libgl1-mesa-dri (22.0.3-1 and others) no more i915 … i/filelist

Arch Linux have got another package driver called mesa-amber which seems to be a continuation of old legacy (mesa=21.3.8, opengl-driver).
It appeared a trace of mesa-amber aswell at ftp-master.debian. None yt from repository. I just hope this mesa-amber will reach Debian sid/testing so i can remove my workaround below.

Not advisable, This is not a advisable solution, this driver have stoped having updates, for security reasons, other malfunction or conflict that may rise later you're adivsed won't add it manually. Since i have nothing to lose on my old hardware i did it.

I got a copy libgl1-mesa-dri (21.3.8-1) from ftp.debian extracted the deb, i put it in the place where it was before upgrading at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri (manually). So i restored all i915 dri functions and got back fixed all my recent appeard concerns.

If you want it back.
Do it at your own risk.

Edit, corrected wrong written daedalus

#15 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-02 17:35:50

Thanks for sharing the zram parts, I will start researching and using it as it does not come out anything good with swap alone when it comes to low resources hardware.

Yes, you can use mutter alone, but better have it with tint2 because doesn't come with panel and don't have shortcuts for launch stuff.

This is how i started mutter from .xinitrc

if which dbus-launch >/dev/null && test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"; then
    eval "$(dbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session)"

xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
tint2 &
exec mutter

dconf-editor tool helps to set cursors, themes, icons and other mutter features instantly.

#16 Re: Devuan Derivatives » We are making progress » 2022-06-02 13:55:19

That's a good news, I am glad Devuan is supplying to Pepermint. I believe users we'll find something light and practical on that OS.

Wish you guys only achievements of your objectives.

#17 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-06-02 13:41:08

sudo wrote:

Light & minimal !
Devuan daedalus + Openrc

No way, GNOME with 2G memory? OK, I know it works, but slows down a bit after a few hours of works due to swap usages of hdd.
At least to me with 4GB memory happened.

I have done very recently the unorthodox way by installing only mutter with tint2 just for the testing sake. It was awesome experience.

Working with dconf-editor i managed to make interesting graphic adjustments on mutter wm. I just could not change the image of the desktop to the WM alone, despite the efforts of the editor or the commands i made.

I would be interested to know which path you followed to install your GNOME without shell?

Very fine achievement anyway.

#18 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-05-27 16:39:40

I'm glad you were successful passing to the next.

#19 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-05-22 15:50:27

Awesome Ogis1975, Alpine Linux is the most lightweight distro with one of the fastest package manager ever.

#20 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-05-11 16:20:11

Upgraded to Fedora 36 yesterday once it released as stable. Overall the upgrade process went well, I haven't seen in general how things go on anyhow.

Customs themes works, but there are some inconsistencies naming due to default Light/Dark until the customs hacks find the right path.

At first glance it looks very fine release. I like a lot this release.


Randomly chosed the same background as above.

#21 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] tomcat10 on chimaera » 2022-05-04 14:00:07

When Debian sees it ready. This package is in experimental only from Debian packages. There is no sign from sid/testing/stable yet for both Debian/Devuan.

Ask Debian maintainers for the delay or the reason, the only way you can get a concrete answer.

Edit: Also checked Devuan packages about tomcat9. The link below shows versions available. … 9&x=submit

None for tomcat10 yet. … 0&x=submit

This package depends on Debian. Maintainers are Emmanuel Bourg and Tony Mancill. Both relevant emails are on the Debian Packages page.

#22 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-04-23 16:41:40

One last scrot for the kern 5.16.
Edit: A new one with recent 5.17.
Other Edit: Corrected Credits
Scraped Yaru, join Nord.
Nordic Wallpapers | Theme Nordic | Icons Papirus-Dark | Nordic Selection

#23 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-04-20 09:18:22

Welcome noil, Time and Will is the key to cook rice. That's a fine environment of yours.

#24 Re: Installation » chimaera update firefox broken/ linux-image not updated » 2022-04-20 09:01:55

I can't edit my above comment, i wanted to add a solved solution for my Firefox Client-side decoration that prevented me having buttons of minimize|maximize|close on CWM. Full Screen F11 button icons are fixed with below solution aswell.

I simply put it to my home profile and that one fixed having back buttons and titlebar on the customize toolbar.


Also Archi Wiki have a page about many Firefox Tweaks.

I should have googled early about it, but have ignored it until today decide to check it up.
Also, as it was clearly seen, my issue was different from OP, which I apologize for putting my nose on his thread.

#25 Re: Documentation » yad tips and tricks. » 2022-04-16 18:45:02

I had not paid very much attention to yad, thanks to this thread cames to help me having a better gui for logout, reboot and poweroff.

I used dialog for those stuff, but yad to a better rescue.

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