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#1 2020-03-28 22:17:52

kapqa
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Python3.8 / Testing?

Hello ,

i just recently upgraded to Devuan Beowulf.


For a program "SVP - Smooth Video Project")

i would like to install the newer version, but it requires Python3.8


can i yet install this on Devuan?

it seems it is available on Debian Testing

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python3.8



Thank you!

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#2 2020-03-28 22:41:48

golinux
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

Check devuan backports.  Do not install directly from Debian repos.

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#3 2020-03-29 10:59:34

kapqa
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

whenever i add "beowulf backports" i get this error here

E: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf-backports/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 16min 56s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
E: Release file for http://it.deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 16min 57s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
E: Release file for http://it.deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf-security/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 17min 44s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
E: Release file for http://it.deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf-updates/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 17min 45s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.


when i then comment out

beowulf-backports

the error would remain.

after

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1096930 … -yet-valid

applying

sudo hwclock --hctosys 

sudo apt update

would return normal, but only unless i don't include beowulf-backports?

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#4 2020-03-29 11:05:02

kapqa
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

the package python3.8 seems available in

Ceres (testing)

but the similar error as above would occur upon including the repository

sudo apt-get -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org//merged ceres InRelease [25.6 kB]
Reading package lists... Done        
E: Release file for http://it.deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ceres/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 11min 14s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.

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#5 2020-03-29 11:06:07

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

There doesn't appear to be a python3.8 package in Devuan, even for ceres: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any

Not sure why though hmm

And off-topic for this thread but:

kapqa wrote:

applying

sudo hwclock --hctosys 

sudo apt update

would return normal

If you're dual-booting with Windows then you should force Windows to use UTC rather than make GNU/Linux use a stupid time standard:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sy … in_Windows

And make sure that ntp is installed & enabled to keep your clock correct.

Once that's done and Devuan is using the correct time run

sudo hwclock --systohc

"Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher." — Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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#6 2020-03-29 11:12:15

kapqa
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

it seems the

beowulf-backports

are not yet available,


so i resorted to include

ceres

and could install python3.8 from there (next to upgrade some other packages).
after i changed repository from

to

the packages from ceres would become installable (to solve the error above, again

sudo hwclock --hctosys 

had to be applied > so the system has problems with timezone fuss in the european-union > understandably)


hope this will not lead to further complications

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#7 2020-03-29 12:42:55

fsmithred
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

python3.8 is also in chimaera (our next testing when beowulf goes stable).

ceres=sid=unstable

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#8 2020-03-30 23:23:59

kapqa
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

fsmithred wrote:

python3.8 is also in chimaera (our next testing when beowulf goes stable).

ceres=sid=unstable


Thanks for all your help.

too bad i did not notice that= chimaera,

as i upgraded toCeres (Planet1) and my ability to rest*hibernate* and the like was gone.

also, here https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ the package search for

testing

is greyed out, so it is not seeable if

chimaera

has python3.8?

Thanks again, hope to find a stabler solution with Linux.

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#9 2020-03-31 12:16:50

fsmithred
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

$ apt-cache policy python3.8
python3.8:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.8.2-1
  Version table:
     3.8.2-1 50
         50 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
         50 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages

chimaera won't be any more stable than ceres until debian bullseye goes into freeze. Some of the packages we fork are being made ready for ceres now, and they will migrate into chimaera pretty quickly when they're done.

Check all the usual suspects for desktop power control (shutdown/reboot/hibernate). (policykit, libpam-elogind, upower...)

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#10 2020-04-04 15:32:01

xrogaan
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Re: Python3.8 / Testing?

For people needing another version of python for their own usage, they can use pyenv. Pretty simple tool for a user based usage of python, doesn't pollute the system.

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