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#1 2018-12-13 16:21:09

jeffreyC
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At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

In the process of trying to speed it up I was looking at what was actually needed for booting my system and one of the things I noticed was avahi was being loaded, so I looked into if I could remove it. If I do not use something I prefer to remove it rather than disable it, as I know when updates happen configuration files sometimes get overwritten or replaced.

At first I could not understand why removing a dns discovery program would require removing gtk3 but when I found out that avahi was developed by Lennart Poettering it became much clearer.


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#2 2018-12-13 17:05:26

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Just disable the init script via rcconf

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#3 2018-12-14 00:15:10

Ron
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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

I have something on my computer made by Lennart Poettering?  mad  I avoid anything that guy makes.

Can I get more info on how to disable this crap? I have no idea what rcconf is.

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#4 2018-12-14 00:28:54

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

It intrigues me that someone would opt specifically for a sysvinit based Linux and not know what rcconf is...

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#5 2018-12-14 00:31:51

Ron
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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

I am still "fairly" new to Linux. And I'm just a computer user, not a geek (I don't mean that pejoratively). When I have time I'll research it, I guess.

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#6 2018-12-14 00:36:21

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Bruh, google it.  (Or startpage it.)

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#7 2018-12-14 00:39:41

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

We all have to start somewhere.  But around this crowd if you're going to whine about something it's best to know and understand what you're whining about before making grandiose statements about your preferences.

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#8 2018-12-14 00:41:36

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

@siva . . . You'd think a quick search would be the first thing to do.  But is sooo much easier to let someone else do it.

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#9 2018-12-14 01:20:38

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

It's a pretty simple manager.  To be fair, I wish I just better understood rc scripts and took the time to manage them better.

Back to the original topic: the plot thickens...

# apt-get remove --purge avahi-daemon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libavahi-core7 libdaemon0 libre2-3
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  avahi-daemon* libnss-mdns*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 59 not upgraded.
After this operation, 386 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

I wonder what GTK3 the OP was referring to.

In any case, it did give me an excuse to just uninstall it ^_^

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#10 2018-12-14 01:40:58

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

@siva . . . I got the same result:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  avahi-daemon* libnss-mdns*

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#11 2018-12-14 22:57:25

aut0exec
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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

siva wrote:

It's a pretty simple manager.  To be fair, I wish I just better understood rc scripts and took the time to manage them better.

lol That's how I feel with systemd.... Init scripts just make so much more sense personally.

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#12 2018-12-15 00:43:45

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

golinux wrote:
@siva . . . You'd think a quick search would be the first thing to do.  But is sooo much easier to let someone else do it.

If you go back, you'd see that I did say I'd research it when I have the time. You know, I have a full time job, and a wife and kid that takes quite a bit of my time. I don't live on the computer. I really don't know what I said to warrant such passive aggression. And who was whining? That crack was unwarranted.

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#13 2018-12-15 01:18:20

golinux
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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Please try to relax and take it down a notch.  There is no need for drama here . . . or for systemd and Poettering bashing.  Time to move on.

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#14 2018-12-15 01:33:45

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Ron wrote:

golinux wrote:
@siva . . . You'd think a quick search would be the first thing to do.  But is sooo much easier to let someone else do it.

If you go back, you'd see that I did say I'd research it when I have the time. You know, I have a full time job, and a wife and kid that takes quite a bit of my time. I don't live on the computer. I really don't know what I said to warrant such passive aggression. And who was whining? That crack was unwarranted.

All I'm saying is, who controls the rc scripts, controls the universe.  Openbsd has the right idea there imo

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#15 2018-12-15 18:20:31

Ron
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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Thanks siva for sharing your experience with deleting avahi. I also got the same things as you and golinux.

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#16 2019-01-30 12:03:41

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

probably a bit dated....

but the OP's problem with GTK3  ahavi was maybe a Gnome Desktop Environment thing.

for example the Trinity Desktop Environment has something called Ahavi-TQt in its packages set.

not really knowing what ahavi was I went and looked it up, the impression i got was it was Potterings answer to windows home/ workgroup thing but for linux.

given most of you seemed to have uninstalled it, I was wondering if there were any specific apps/ programs that relied on it.


maybe it was meant as a dirty hack to get around ldap and samba or something?

I remember a few years ago i had trouble with those 2 (at least pretty sure it was ldap) items trying to get a linux system and windows system talking to each other and the printer, i know i ended up giving up on it.

If it was meant for what i said above maybe I could rename it and call it "whats local" PMSL.

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#17 2019-01-30 12:48:16

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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Don't feel bad. I've been using linux for 18 years, and I never heard of rcconf. I have heard of sysv-rc-conf, and that's what I use. It allows you to turn services on or off in specific runlevels. The really hard-core geeks use update-rc.d.

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#18 2019-01-30 14:44:35

catprints
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Re: At first I thought it was insane, but then I saw who was behind it.

Thanks fsmithred for mentioning sysv-rc-conf. I recently learned of rcconf but now have another (more useful for me) choice.
Now I have to learn about run levels...


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