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#1 2018-10-29 11:54:48

Altoid
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Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Hello:

I am (sort of) considering moving from 20+ years use of my much loved Pegasus Mail (which I use under Wine) to Sylpheed.
But I want to test it thoroughly before I consider it seriously, lest I make a move I will regret.

I guess I am (like most people) a creature of habit: I have learned to work with Pmail and it has done very well by me.
Unfortunately, PMail is not open source / FOSS and it seems will not ever be ported to Linux.
And I feel I have to move on.

Upon starting Sylpheed for the first time, at some time during the configuration process, I get a pop-up with the notice of a nnewer available version, 3.6.99.

Seeing that the version available in the repo is 3.5.1+2+b1, should I stay with this one or go ahead and update it before setting it up for testing?
Is there any reason (besides available maintainer testing/packaging time needed) I should not update to the latest version available?

Please advise.

Best,

A.

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#2 2018-10-29 14:16:58

fsmithred
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Where is 3.6.99 coming from? Ascii backports has 3.7.0-3~bpo9+1. I don't know if sylpheed is like firefox and thunderbird that can just be downloaded from mozilla and unpacked (or automatically updated from upstream), or if it really needs to be installed by the package manager. I'd go for the backports version, if anything.

Edit: Actually, I'd probably just stick to whatever is in the repo unless I needed some feature in the backports version. I have a vague memory of disabling that update message in sylpheed, but it's been a few years since I used it.

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#3 2018-10-29 14:28:40

Altoid
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

Where is 3.6.99 coming from?

No idea ...
I just get the pop-up saying there's a new version available.

fsmithred wrote:

Ascii backports has 3.7.0-3~bpo9+1.

Didn't know that.
Thanks.

fsmithred wrote:

... don't know if sylpheed is like firefox and thunderbird that can just be downloaded ...

Basically, that's why I asked.

fsmithred wrote:

I'd go for the backports version ...

OK.
Makes sense to use the available repo.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

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#4 2018-10-29 21:16:58

Altoid
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

Ascii backports has 3.7.0-3~bpo9+1.

Can't find it in http://deb.devuan.org/merged/  ascii-backports  main contrib non-free.

Is that the right repo?

fsmithred wrote:

...  unless I needed some feature in the backports version.

Yes.
The version in the repo does not seem to have the 'selective download' feature.

Thanks in advance,

A.

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#5 2018-10-29 21:42:49

golinux
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Our pkginfo.devuan.org comes in handy.

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#6 2018-10-29 22:24:47

Altoid
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Our pkginfo.devuan.org comes in handy.

Thanks for the info.

But I was using the package browser page: http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ and could not find it.
Then I used SPM with the http://deb.devuan.org/merged/  ascii-backports  main contrib non-free repository checked and it did not show up either.

What am I missing?

Thanks in advance,

A.

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#7 2018-10-29 22:47:18

golinux
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

golinux wrote:

Our pkginfo.devuan.org comes in handy.

Thanks for the info.

But I was using the package browser page: http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ and could not find it.
Then I used SPM with the http://deb.devuan.org/merged/  ascii-backports  main contrib non-free repository checked and it did not show up either.

What am I missing?
.

I'm surprised that http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ is still functional at all.  It was an early contribution to Devuan but now we have our own in-house version.  amprolla3 has a way of redirecting to Debian that might have stumped both those searches.  Links to https://pkginfo.devuan.org are all over the Devuan website along with other useful resources.  wink

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#8 2018-10-29 22:54:32

fsmithred
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

apt-cache policy sylpheed
sylpheed:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.5.1-2+b1
  Version table:
     3.7.0-3~bpo9+1 100
        100 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports/main amd64 Packages
     3.5.1-2+b1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
apt-get -t ascii-backports install sylpheed

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#9 2018-10-29 23:21:26

Altoid
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... surprised that http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ is still functional...

It is.  =-)

golinux wrote:

... now we have our own in-house version.
amprolla3 has a way of redirecting to Debian that might have stumped both those searches.

OK. Note taken.

golinux wrote:

Links to https://pkginfo.devuan.org are all over ...

Must have slipped me.
And I was so happy with the package browser.  8^D!

Thanks.

A.

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#10 2018-10-29 23:29:31

Altoid
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Re: Sylpheed 3.5.1+2+b1 ---> 3.6.99

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:
apt-get -t ascii-backports install sylpheed

That did it.
Thanks a lot.

But (for some unknown reason) still no 'selective download' feature in this version.
It's been in the FAQ for the longest time, at least 2005 and a very useful feature.

---
1.30 C30 How does selective download work?

A. There are two ways using it.
1. Manually: Open "Tools/Selective download" and choose "Fetch" to
retrieve the mail headers. Afterwards, select the mails to delete and pres
the remove button.

2. Automatic: Create a -global- filtering rule to delete mails on
server. If you then choose "Selective download", all mails that
conform to this rule are marked for deletion.

Note: By default, selective download only retrieves new (unread)
messages. If you want to process the read mails also, you need to set
"retrieve all messages".
---

I've sent Yamamoto an e-mail asking about this.
Maybe it's an option when compiling?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Cheers,

A.

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