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#2351 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » More Nouveau woes. » 2017-10-29 20:03:37

I made a devuan-live (xfce) iso with backports kernel and wireless for people with newer hardware. I don't remember if it has newer xorg or not.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/

#2353 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-28 22:28:26

Great! Thanks.

I didn't say it before, but it's nice to see you around these parts. Maybe Dean will show up. He does that every once in a while.

#2354 Re: Installation » how to go online? » 2017-10-28 22:26:13

Make sure you have non-free enabled in your sources. Then you should be able to find the package.

#2355 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-28 22:02:49

cynwulf, thanks. I didn't even think of that. Sorry to say I haven't been to DUF much in the past year or two. Yes, please talk to JD about it. That would be an appropriate place for the reasons you state.

And in case anyone has any doubts, Refracta is not dead. We're just without our own meeting place at the moment.

#2356 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-28 19:36:44

I can log in, but I don't know if anyone else can. Would someone please let me know if you can or can't log in?

#2357 Re: Installation » my new Devuan installation is so tiny that I cant connect to the forum » 2017-10-28 18:07:15

I think you need to install ca-certificates and maybe openssl. (aptitude tells me that openssl is installed because of x11vnc, but I don't know if you need it. It might come automatically with ca-certificates.)

#2358 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-28 15:40:43

No genius here. I just keep kicking stuff around until it works.

While I'm here, I'll share more information about what happened.

After the tapatalk migration was completed (for all their forums) they sent out a mailing to all forum owners (and apparently some others, too) informing us that the migration was complete and we would be seeing new features. They mentioned an option to make it financially rewarding. They also invited a reply if we had any questions.

A few days later, I went to the refracta forum, and I saw a PayPal Donate button on the front page, with the words, "Support refracta.freeforums.org by making a donation."  Well, I don't have a paypal account, and I'm not aware of any financial agreements that I might have with tapatalk.

I replied to that email with questions, basically stating the above and asking for an explanation. I got no reply. After a couple days, I disabled the forum. I didn't want anyone to use the donate button unless I knew what it did. About two weeks later, another mass mailing went out with some explanation regarding donations and "Gold Points". Here's the gold points FAQ -
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatal … 37910.html

TL;DR - They ask you to donate to support refracta, and they get the money. The donator gets to not see ads. ($5/month to do what noscript does for free)

I haven't contacted them again, but I just looked around on their support forum to see if I could learn anything about backing up and migrating my database to some other host. I found this -
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatal … 8070ed3695

TL;DR - no, you can't do that. (Note: It's a recent post. It's possible that a moderator might respond with more information.)

So here's the current status of the board:
-  It's disabled, so you can't post.
- You can log in and read.
- You can log in and send private messages.

I have backups of the posts. I don't have backups of the user accounts. I don't know any way for anyone to back up their own private messages, other than to open them and copy/paste the content.

Forum backups are at the ibiblio site. Instructions for use: unpack and practice your grep.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/forum_archive/

Now I need to do something else to get my mind off this. sad

#2359 Re: Devuan » Excellent, Thank you » 2017-10-28 11:55:30

vecna wrote:

Do you have to start a conversation or something?

Yes, but you need to understand that the conversations are sometimes asynchronous. It might be minutes or hours before someone answers you. Stay logged in.

I'm not sure where the best place to post upgrade reports would be. Didn't think about that yet, but I plan to do it. My first report will be posted today or tomorrow.

#2360 Re: Installation » how to go online? » 2017-10-28 11:40:23

I'm having some difficulty understanding what you want to do. If devuan is already installed and can connect with wired ethernet, you should be able to run

apt-get install firmware-realtek

to get the wireless working.

If you want to install devuan on a computer that has no CD drive or USB ports, that's gets a little more difficult. Upgrading an old ubuntu to devuan might be possible, but it would be difficult. In fact, someone reported in irc last night that they did exaclty that. I don't recommend trying it in this case. A debootstrap install would probably be easier. Or pull the hard drive and connect it to another computer to install the system, then put it back where it belongs. Or make a separate partition for devuan and install from hard drive. (Did you already try that?)

#2361 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-10-23 23:33:00

Looks like the answer is yes. Only thing I changed was gtk3 to gtk2.

dh_auto_configure -- --with-gtk=gtk2 --enable-html --enable-gio --enable-spell --enable-sourceview --enable-icon-browser

Here's the code:
https://git.devuan.org/fsmithred/yad/tree/master

Packages are here (0.38). I made them for jessie, but they work on ascii.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … _packages/

What does html support do?

#2362 Re: News & Announcements » Amprolla3 is out for testing » 2017-10-21 21:39:12

Gary, it's not a bug. The key for the new repo was created Sep 4. I don't know what date it was added to the keyring, but I assume it was before your last upgrade. You already got it.

fungus, OK, pamac. Got it. Thanks. I'll bet they did that on purpose.
I don't know an onion address, but it might be in the works or already exist. Stay tuned.

UPDATE: This just in via irc:
"the onion link is here: https://devuan.org/
  under "Packages""

and it goes to pkgmaster.devuan.org

#2363 Re: News & Announcements » Amprolla3 is out for testing » 2017-10-21 10:07:40

I expect that mirrors can set their own refresh rate. Most times they check, there won't be any changes, so nothing to do.

Dyslectics Untie! It's pacman. Debian/Devuan has update-notifier in jessie. The name has been changed to gnome-packagekit in stretch, and you can't have it because of the chain of deps. There is a way to have conky show the number of updates available. (Search dng archives or ask me nicely and I'll figure out what I did.)

#2364 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-20 22:10:52

No arm devices to play with, so no isos or images for your hardware. Sorry. Do any of the devuan images work on your hardware?

You might be able to get refractasnapshot and refractainstaller to work. The packages are not specific to any architecture, but I don't know if any of the system commands they use need to be modified. Let us know if you succeed, and if not, let us know what errors you get.

#2366 News & Announcements » Amprolla3 is out for testing » 2017-10-20 21:57:56

fsmithred
Replies: 16

Dear dev1rs,

We are happy to announce that 'amprolla3', the rewrite of nextime's
amprolla by parazyd and Wizzup, is finally up and running and ready
to be tested.

The code can be found at:

https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3

The rewrite increases the frequency of merges (now performed
every few minutes, rather than once a day), meaning that new packages,
updates, and upgrades will be available almost immediately to Devuan
users.

We have set up a second host which will serve Devuan packages as
merged by the new amprolla3. It is now available at
pkgmaster.devuan.org and currently serves Devuan Jessie, Devuan Ascii,
and Devuan Ceres, including all the *-security and *-updates sections.
The host, pkgmaster.devuan.org, also supports https.

If you want to help testing the new amprolla3, you just need to:

- replace "auto.mirror.devuan.org" with "pkgmaster.devuan.org" in
  your /etc/apt/sources.list

- # apt-get update
- # apt-get install devuan-keyring

Then just use it as you did with auto.mirror.devuan.org. Please
report any bugs on https://bugs.devuan.org, as usual.

The current auto.mirror.devuan.org host remains up and running and
perfectly usable. Once the testing of amprolla3 is complete, the
transition to the new system should be seamless and transparent to all
users.

The new amprolla3 also provides support for the currently missing
Contents*.gz files (solving the apt-file bug). The feature will be
made available in the coming couple of days.

The Dev1Devs

**edit by golinux**
Please see the "amprolla magic" thread for an in-depth understanding of what amprolla does.

#2367 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-20 14:18:16

Official announcement should be coming in a few hours.

# amprolla3
All the proposed- repos are optional. They contain packages that are working their way into the main repo.
Last night I tested pkgmaster by upgrading an ascii that hasn't been upgraded in over a month. I only used the first four of the following deb lines (the /merged lines), and I got some updates. Then I added the last two (the /devuan lines), updated and tried an upgrade, but there was nothing left to upgrade. But that may not always be the case.

ASCII

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-security main contrib non-free

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/ ascii-proposed-security main contrib non-free

Backports

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-backports main contrib non-free

Ceres

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres main contrib non-free

#2368 Re: Other Issues » []Ascii] Did repository naming change? » 2017-10-20 13:36:12

What repository are you looking at? packages.devuan.org or pkgmaster.devuan.org?  Are you looking at jessie, ascii or ceres?

Note: I don't think there have been or will be any changes to packages.devuan.org (and consequently with auto.mirror.devuan.org) in the recent past or future.

#2370 Re: Other Issues » Krack » 2017-10-19 16:37:25

golinux wrote:

I thought it was already fixed

Yes. It's in jessie-security

https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3999

#2371 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-19 15:12:42

It's up again. Note that I posted all of this in advance of the official announcement. So this is not the final word. That's part of why it's here instead of in Announcements. That will come.

The other two repos that I mentioned above are ascii-proposed and ascii-proposed-security. They are in /devuan, not /merged. I believe their purpose is for packages in devuan that don't come from debian. I haven't tried them yet.

#2372 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-10-19 13:11:39

Yad calendar seems to just spit out the date you select. If I remember correctly, Osmo lets you schedule appointments or enter notes.

@greenjeans - not sure what you mean about graying out next months dates. On mine, they are gray, and if you click on one, it changes to that month.

#2373 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-19 12:36:43

UPDATE: AMPROLLA3 WILL BE DOWN PART OF TODAY FOR MORE WORK. WAIT!

I might have to revise the source lines I posted above. There are a couple in /devuan that aren't in /merged.

https works on pkgmaster, so you can use apt-transport-https if you want

you can use amrolla3 for jessie.

stick with codenames to avoid confusion - use jessie/ascii/ceres rather than stable/testing/unstable - we need to get in sync with debian, where jessie is oldstable.

I'll revise this again later today or tomorrow.

And I'll fix the typo above - should be "devuan-keyring" not "devuan keyring".

#2374 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-19 03:42:49

To answer your original question (the subject line of this thread)...

  NOW!

amprolla3 works for ascii. We need to know if it still works when more than a few people hit on it at once.

To use amprolla3 in ascii, change 'auto.mirror.devuan.org' to 'pkgmaster.devuan.org'
(for jessie, keep using auto.mirror)

You'll need the updated keyring:

apt-get update
apt-get install devuan-keyring

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-security main contrib non-free
apt-get update

Now you're ready to install or upgrade ascii using amprolla3. Merges are done every 2 minutes, so we shouldn't be lagging behind debian.

You should be able to use the above sources for an upgrade from jessie to ascii.
Also, rsyslog has been fixed, so you don't have to substitute it with a different syslogger and debootstrap will work.

#2375 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-10-18 14:03:12

greenjeans wrote:

 
Replaced Osmo with gsimplecal, I like Osmo but just couldn't integrate it like I wanted to do and it's slow to start up. I will be dumping gsimplecal probably next version and just make one from yad as these things are all just a GtkCalendar anyway.

Here's one that runs in a terminal. It's one of my earliest bash projects. I never thought about yadifying it, but you can feel free to use it, borrow from it or completely transform it.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … 06_all.deb
https://github.com/fsmithred/taskfer (the todo script on this page is older than the .06 package. One command line option is missing)
Warning: You will develop an intimate relationship with the date command while working on this project.

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