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#1 2017-10-27 13:36:24

vecna
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Registered: 2017-10-27
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Excellent, Thank you

Great effort, thanks to all who are putting work into it.
I think in the next few months I might be able to maintain a package or 2.
I assume you only have to maintain the sysd infected packages?  The rest are untouched from debian ?
When I got into the anti-sysd movement it was trying to stop ARCH adopting it above init scripts, got thrown out of arch forums as result.
Then went to debian,  because how would debian ever abandon sysv?  Obviously after it did I got thrown out of the forums lol.
Years later here we are, if there ever was a war then the sysd guys have won hands down. This is the most searious sysd free effort ( if we ignore gentoo)  yet not exactly massive.Don't get me twisted here, I'm going to do best to help out, and without this project I would only be using Linux to compile android.
I used to love all the flavours of Linux, now 2 out of 3 of my laptops will not run Linux distros in dual boot / win7 config ,all down to you know what spreading upstream.
Devuan has enabled me to run Kali for fun, and some EDA stuff for work. Thanks.

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#2 2017-10-27 14:08:25

golinux
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Posts: 645

Re: Excellent, Thank you

Welcome, vecna. Your story is a familiar one.  We tried to turn the tide but failed within Debian.  Now we rise up here. As to packaging . . . you might want to have a look at this.  And please, do come find us on freenode #devuan..

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#3 2017-10-27 16:31:38

vecna
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

Ok had a look see round your git , and Fu"k me WOW.
You guys pretty much have it covered, I really don't see much missed from the desktops that are worth supporting. I even saw network manager in there which blew me away.
can't immagine how you got some of those upstream projects to behave, but I'm not complaining!
I will have a closer look over the weeks and find something to contribute, am thinkink of doing some of the Kali specific packages that have converted to sysd modules from sysv deamon scripts, they at least are easy, just revert to sysv startups that still work fine from stale branches.

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#4 2017-10-27 17:32:42

golinux
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

@vecna . . . we currently need testing of ascii upgrade paths in various permutations.  Perhaps you'd want to play with that a bit and post your results?

Devuan/Jessie --> Devuan/Ascii
Devuan/Jessie --> Devuan/Ascii with eudev
Debian/Jessie --> Devuan/Ascii
Debian/Jessie --> Devuan/Jessie --> Devuan/Ascii
Debian/Stretch --> Devuan/Ascii

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#5 2017-10-27 18:11:53

vecna
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

Ok on it,
Post results in this thread or start a new one?
laptops ok?  don't have a desktop at the mo. ( laptops, especially newer ones are always worst case scenario regarding hardware) .
Also is it ok to stick to legacy ( non eFi )  boot? Or should I test both boot schemes?
Do you need results quick or do I have a few weeks?

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#6 2017-10-27 19:22:59

golinux
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

Can you get to freenode #devuan-dev?

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#7 2017-10-28 07:59:57

vecna
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

Ok got onto freenode, does not seem anyone saying anything?  Just a ASCII raodmap.
This is my first time with irc though, maybe doing something wrong?  Do you have to start a conversation or something?

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#8 2017-10-28 11:55:30

fsmithred
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Registered: 2016-11-25
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

vecna wrote:

Do you have to start a conversation or something?

Yes, but you need to understand that the conversations are sometimes asynchronous. It might be minutes or hours before someone answers you. Stay logged in.

I'm not sure where the best place to post upgrade reports would be. Didn't think about that yet, but I plan to do it. My first report will be posted today or tomorrow.

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#9 2017-10-28 15:39:00

golinux
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

@vecna . . . what nick are you using on irc?  I'm not seeing you there under your forum nick.  And as fsmithred suggested, stay logged in!

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#10 2017-10-28 16:45:51

vecna
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Re: Excellent, Thank you

Ok yep, will hang out there tomorrow, ie stay logged in.
I am using vecna_808 name, some bugger took vecna lol.
I'm on European time ( Denmark) .
Like I said a bit new to me, but I do get that all the code guys use irc . I'm a hardware engineer, we tend to post in forums, a history thing I suppose .

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