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#2126 Re: Installation » Pale Moon » 2019-01-29 17:09:49
If Pale Moon were in the Debian repos it would also be in Devuan. AFAIK, Steve Pusser provides Pale Moon for Debian users from his repos. You can also get the tar from Pale Moon directly and install wherever you like.
#2127 Re: Devuan Derivatives » questions about miyo and Devuan in general » 2019-01-28 22:46:42
@cretsiah . . . Did you find the Visual Install Guides on the website (navigation is at the bottom)? The one for the refracta cli install hasn't been done yet but the GUI install is there. The procedure is basically the same. It's harder to customize a refracta install but it's very fast. You can be up and running in 15 minutes!
#2128 Re: Devuan Derivatives » questions about miyo and Devuan in general » 2019-01-28 04:22:16
Have you looked at the Devuan.org website? Many of your questions are answered on the index page, download page or os page.
#2129 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » KDE4 on Ascii » 2019-01-25 17:28:39
@golinux, Trinity is based on KDE3, not KDE4.
So much for my reading comprehension. LOLOL!
#2130 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » KDE4 on Ascii » 2019-01-25 16:33:49
#2131 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Very funny discussion about Devuan haters » 2019-01-25 16:27:22
That is unintelligible. Interesting that you would post that from the forum from which you have been banned.
#2132 Re: Other Issues » Devuan mailing list problem » 2019-01-24 16:01:24
Hello,
My ISP doesn't offer email service so I pay another company to provide email and domain hosting. I can try asking them to correct the issues you mention.
Rick is an admin ninja so I'm pretty sure this has something to do with your ISP's config. This is the first time something like this has popped up since the forum started. Is there any particular reason you chose that ISP? When I see .aspx, I run the other way (personal prejudice). . . .
I didn't try to post because my reply to the registration email and to dng-owner both resulted in delay/delivery failure notices. It didn't make any sense to try posting until the problem was corrected.
Makes sense. It might be some consolation to know that your registration was successful and you are in the user list so you should be able to post once your ISP gets it together.
#2133 Re: Off-topic » DSA-4371-1 apt -- security update » 2019-01-24 15:48:33
golinux, thank you for your clarification / suggestions.
If indeed that "clarification" is a correct conclusion. LOLOL!! In any case we both updated and seem to have survived so onward . . .
#2134 Re: Off-topic » DSA-4371-1 apt -- security update » 2019-01-24 07:04:10
it is said from KatolaZ
The safest way would actually be to manually download the deb packages of apt from the debian-security pool (more information available below), or to use pkgmaster.devuan.org in your sources.list to do the upgrade (pkgmaster.devuan.org is not a rough mirror...).
^This part is that I'm confused.
I've done APT successfully upgraded to version 1.0.9.8.5 2 via "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged jessie-security"
Is it necessary for me to switch hosts to "pkgmaster.devuan.org" or make other manual interventions?Forgive me for my lack of understanding on this part.
BR,
Nili
Yes, it was confusing and I chewed on it for quite some time myself. I think he recommended pkgmaster because it is the source for all the other pkg mirrors would eliminate exposure to the many mirrors in the round robin.
#2135 Re: Other Issues » Devuan mailing list problem » 2019-01-24 02:39:44
That list is moderated. Did you try to post? No email ever arrived to moderation. That's how I know when someone new has registered.
I think your DNS might not be set up correctly because your "server DNS address could not be found.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN"
PS. It would probably be a good idea to remove your email address from that post.
#2136 Re: Off-topic » DSA-4371-1 apt -- security update » 2019-01-23 15:03:55
#2137 Re: Installation » [Some tests - Beowulf] » 2019-01-22 21:58:20
I want do rss > torrent.
Maybe the devuan team should think about provide the rss.
We already do on the index page of https://devuan.org/ under the Get Devuan header:
You can also download Devuan using our release torrent or magnet link.
And at https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii.torrent and https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie.torrent
#2138 Re: Installation » Migration from Debian: How to verify the devuan keyring? » 2019-01-22 20:40:09
this maybe : https://devuan.org/os/keyring/
Noooooo! That is an old deprecated page. Info is at the bottom of this page:
https://devuan.org/os/
Probably in the Release Notes also.
#2139 Re: Devuan » Great OS, minor critiques » 2019-01-22 18:57:09
golinux wrote:In fact, I'm using mate's version of "Users and Groups" (at your suggestion years ago) which I think is in mate-system-tools. I set things up so long ago, I can't remember exactly.
mate-system-tools has been removed some time ago (last release : jessie).
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=812730
gnome-system-tools should provide same functionalities.
Right. I couldn't remember the name of that pkg. Thanks. Yeah, that's what I have in my ASCII VM.
#2140 Re: Other Issues » Devuan as VirtualBox host system » 2019-01-22 17:30:39
I have got the 5.2.18 Debian Stretch package loaded directly from Oracle installed on a Ryzen2700X and 32 GByte of RAM, no issues.
Maybe thats the way to go.
Good luck, Rolf
I also use the oracle packages.
#2141 Re: Devuan » Great OS, minor critiques » 2019-01-22 16:34:31
No GUI user management.
That's an xfce thing. Other desktops have their own management tools.
There are user GUI management tools in xfce? That's news to me. In fact, I'm using mate's version of "Users and Groups" (at your suggestion years ago) which I think is in mate-system-tools. I set things up so long ago, I can't remember exactly.
#2142 Re: Devuan » Great OS, minor critiques » 2019-01-22 04:49:07
Feedback is always appreciated especially when it's so enthusiastic!
I know that Synaptic Package Manager is installed which is great, but an average user couldn't find new software using it. So if an 'app store' of some sort was present that would be great. I tried 'sudo apt-get install gnome-software', but for some unknown reason, it will only show me whats already installed and nothing online. I may have messed that up, because at first I tried to install it using a debian package. I have since tried to reinstall via command line, no success.
Then new users need to do some reading. 
Also it's a _very bad idea_ to install directly from the debian repos. The Debian repos are provided by devuan via a filtered redirect so you won't install something dependent on systemd and bork your system. The list of banned pkgs is here. You will find in my sig a link to search devuan packages.
No GUI third party/proprietary drivers program like 'software-properties-gtk'. I know that doing a google search would also yield the correct drivers. But it would be nice to have a program that would search the hardware of your computer and offer additional drivers.
Have you enabled non-free and contib in your sources.list?
I guess PPAs aren't supported, or maybe I don't know how its done in devuan.
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/deepin-sc
aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template for Devuan/ascii
I would question using this OS as my main because I may run across a scenario where I desperately need something installed and it has to be done by PPA.
We do not have ppas in Devuan though there are some unofficial projects in our gitlab. The Debian wiki is quite clear about not mixing repositories. The same goes for Devuan: Don't make a FrankenDebian
Repositories that can create a FrankenDebian if used with Debian Stable:
- Debian testing release (currently buster)
- Debian unstable release (also known as sid)
- Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!
- Ubuntu PPAs
No GUI user management.
Mate has a pkg for user management but can't think of the name atm.
Another minor thing, I thought I needed the 'desktop-live' distro because thats what I've learned to do.. So I downloaded that first, tried it and successfully installed it. But it was kinda hell to do so. Extremely complicated install. Once installed not everything was right. I have since figured out that I needed the 'netinst' instead. I would really like to try and get the 'Refracta' stuff to work and customize/make my own ISO that would be hardware independent. I have yet to give that a shot.
We have a walk-through of the desktop-live installer here that might be helpful.
Welcome aboard the Devuan train to freedom!
#2143 Re: News & Announcements » First Devuan Conference -- Amsterdam, 5th-7th April 2019 » 2019-01-21 17:45:26
Man... Wish I could go! Any thoughts or plans to have one on the other side of the world in the future?
Sure, if there are responsible people willing to organize and promote it. That takes a LOT of planning that has to be done on the ground wherever it would take place and $$$ to pay for venue etc. up front and be willing to take a possible loss.
#2144 Re: Off-topic » Systemd maintainer for Debian quits » 2019-01-19 20:02:16
We've been having some fun over here.
Debian systemd maintainer "taking a break"
#2145 Re: Off-topic » How To Guide: Hardening Mozilla Firefox Quantum For Privacy & Security » 2019-01-15 21:32:12
Thanks for that. Will come in handy when I decide to make that leap.
#2146 Re: Other Issues » Update for libsystemd0 » 2019-01-15 17:46:54
we don't have systemd installed, but all these packages are hard coded to look for it anyway?
this doesn't seem like a good practice at all. !?!?!?
So far, that connection is "harmless" (according to those who know better than I). If that ever changes, we'll be scrambling. It's similar to libpulse0. Even though I don't have pulseaudio installed some apps still look for it so it needs to be there. Feel free to join the libsystemd0 decontamination team. 
#2147 Re: Other Issues » Update for libsystemd0 » 2019-01-15 16:11:55
The other option would be to remove the hook in all the packages that call it. Unless we have many more devs to remove these, we're going to have to live with it. We actually did a pretty good job in jessie but the list is growing with each new release.
#2148 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » connecting with wireless internet using dhcpcd and wpa_supplicant » 2019-01-15 00:39:18
Try KatolaZ' setnet. Looks like it's in ascii and experimental repos
#2149 Re: Other Issues » Update for libsystemd0 » 2019-01-14 18:10:17
You might want to look at this sticky thread.
#2150 Re: Installation » Problem booting encrypted LVM » 2019-01-13 16:06:14
The cli install follows the same process as the graphical installer. We'll be putting together a Visual Guide for that before too long. The important bit in the para that I quoted is that a swap partition cannot be encrypted. Hopefully fsmithred will be back soon. He could help you sort this in no time.
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